Code Geass R2 - Episode 18 Discussion / Poll

[Verist]

Originally Posted by Sinn

100% lelouch for starting the rebellion the first place and killing euphie, causing nina to go crazy thus the frieja.

100% Brittania for Invading Area 11

[orangejuicetang]

I think we can all agree that it is 100% the writer's fault lol.

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally Posted by Verist

100% Brittania for Invading Area 11

Finally somebody agrees!!

[tzia_n]

question, does the "live" geass have a flaw? i mean why would suzaku shoot freya at a nearby enemy when in the situation that it hits the target (guren), he gets included in the blast area? or is lancelot immune to freya?

[Cytrus]

The "live" geass has the flaw of only doing what's convenient for the drama.

Suzaku actually evades Karen's attack before firing that thing - he could have as well used the time to evacuate the machine, but instead fires a weapon which is unlikely to kill his attacker.

The only slight justification for this is indeed Nina screaming that firing the thing will somehow save him. Maybe it affected his subconsciousness.

[Verist]

Originally Posted by tzia_n

question, does the "live" geass have a flaw? i mean why would suzaku shoot freya at a nearby enemy when in the situation that it hits the target (guren), he gets included in the blast area? or is lancelot immune to freya?

I can't imagine he would have thought it would have hit the Guren, its slow as hell. I can't imagine how the Lancelot wold be immune, but stranger things have happened.

[Diedrupo]

Originally Posted by Cytrus

The "live" geass has the flaw of only doing what's convenient for the drama.

Suzaku actually evades Karen's attack before firing that thing - he could have as well used the time to evacuate the machine, but instead fires a weapon which is unlikely to kill his attacker.

The only slight justification for this is indeed Nina screaming that firing the thing will somehow save him. Maybe it affected his subconsciousness.

If he hadn't shot it, it wouldn't have mattered if he evaded, because Kallen would just go after him again and attempt another finishing blow. Firing the weapon, under the control of the geass mind you, is the only way the writers want you to believe Suzaku could have lived since Kallen would most definately retreat after it.

[Sinn]

Originally Posted by Verist

I can't imagine he would have thought it would have hit the Guren, its slow as hell. I can't imagine how the Lancelot wold be immune, but stranger things have happened.

Lol I agree, but I believe powerful bombs are meant to be slow. Why would Nina even want to upgrade Lancelot to be immune to freya.

[Liddo-kun]

Originally Posted by Cytrus

Suzaku actually evades Karen's attack before firing that thing - he could have as well used the time to evacuate the machine, but instead fires a weapon which is unlikely to kill his attacker.

If Suzaku ejects, Karen would just more conveniently go after him and finish him off. I remember in this episode Kinoshita ejected, then a knightmare frame went after his "escape pod" and shot it.

Originally Posted by Cytrus

The only slight justification for this is indeed Nina screaming that firing the thing will somehow save him. Maybe it affected his subconsciousness.

I agree with this, those last words Nina said probably had an effect on Suzaku and then trigerred the "live on" geass.

[Zenemis]

Lancelot still has no ejection block, and the SEITEN Guren was portrayed as *much* faster than the Lancelot. He didn't really have many options, except maybe begging for his life.

[Diedrupo]

Originally Posted by Liddo-kun

I agree with this, those last words Nina said probably had an effect on Suzaku and then trigerred the "live on" geass.

Uh, no? His geass triggered when he was resigned to dying. Nina had no effect on him.

[Isegrim]

Congratulations, Animesuki - even 2ch is stunned about your poll results .


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[Sinn]

Originally Posted by Diedrupo

Uh, no? His geass triggered when he was resigned to dying. Nina had no effect on him.

He meant Nina's barking about firing freya and he'll live sentence, might have effect him (and live geass) to fire freya thinking he'll live by doing so.

[Yorae_paladin1]

Originally Posted by Ronin Aquila

Finally somebody agrees!!

well considering japan was econimically opressing countries due to them having the majority of sakurudite. And tried to the same to britannia its japans fault for taunting a tiger and not expecting to get mauled.

[Jestersage]

Originally Posted by Isegrim

Congratulations, Animesuki - even 2ch is stunned about your poll results .


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Stunned in a good way or stunned in a bad way?

[infinimonium]

uhhh... I can't take this no more, I've gotta say this:
Karen and her Guren is looking more and more like Domon and his G Gundam
(I know, people said it before, but it still bugs me)

refer to 14:35 of ep.18 and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHSSDFBQ2Co

First post here, so please take it easy on me

[JerryShaw]

Originally Posted by Yorae_paladin1

well considering japan was econimically opressing countries due to them having the majority of sakurudite. And tried to the same to britannia its japans fault for taunting a tiger and not expecting to get mauled.

Are you a communist Yorae? It was Japan's right to decide to whether to sell sakuradite or not. That's like saying it's okay to rob and destroy stores for not selling you their products.

Edit: For Japan, selling the Brittania empire sakuradite would be equivalent to gunstore owner selling guns to men in skimasks.

[Yorae_paladin1]

Originally Posted by JerryShaw

Are you a communist Yorae? It was Japan's right to decide to whether to sell sakuradite or not. That's like saying it's okay to rob and destroy stores for not selling you their products.

Edit: For Japan, selling the Brittania empire sakuradite would be equivalent to gunstore owner selling guns to men in skimasks.

Your missing the point here. Japan was screwing around with britannia they were selling them but japan raised prices to rather large levels in order to screw britannia once that is done they wouldn't sell anymore while other powers got off with neither a hitch. That is a clear sign of economic opression screwing others to make japan richer in short japan asked for it when pissing off a super power.

That kind of stunt will work in third world country but not against a super power.

If japan had remained truly neutral then none of this would have happened but no suzaku's dad made that choice and that cost him.

[JerryShaw]

Originally Posted by Yorae_paladin1

Your missing the point here. Japan was screwing around with britannia they were selling them but japan raised prices to rather large levels in order to screw britannia once that is done they wouldn't sell anymore while other powers got off with neither a hitch. That is a clear sign of economic opression screwing others to make japan richer in short japan asked for it when pissing off a super power.

That kind of stunt will work in third world country but not against a super power.

If japan had remained truly neutral then none of this would have happened but no suzaku's dad made that choice and that cost him.

Okay, I didn't know that Japan was selling high price to only Brittania. Yeah I guess I would be pissed too if I were Brittanian. LOL

[Slick_rick]

Originally Posted by Yorae_paladin1

Your missing the point here. Japan was screwing around with britannia they were selling them but japan raised prices to rather large levels in order to screw britannia once that is done they wouldn't sell anymore while other powers got off with neither a hitch. That is a clear sign of economic opression screwing others to make japan richer in short japan asked for it when pissing off a super power.

That kind of stunt will work in third world country but not against a super power.

If japan had remained truly neutral then none of this would have happened but no suzaku's dad made that choice and that cost him.

Isn't this just from the Novel which isn't anywhere close to canon? I don't remember anywhere in the anime that states that Japan did this. They possibly used their control of Sakuridite for their own personal financial gain but beyond that I don't see them screwing over Brittania without screwing over all the rest of the countries. Japan in the anime isn't shown to have taken a preference between Brittania, E.U. or the Chinese Federation.