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2010-01-19, 14:10 | Link #943 |
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It's not so easy, a few hours after death, corpse are begining to smell, to rot and decompose.
It is not so easy to keep a corpse in a good state for long, even refrigerating left trace, moreover in the 80's. That is why Kinzo's corpse is always burnt: In order to avoid a time of death. |
2010-01-19, 14:13 | Link #944 | |
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Not much happens. - Battler and Beatrice get married. - Beatrice calls Kanon as a reward for helping Battler. Jessica cries when he shows up. - Then Beatrice calls George and Shannon and congratulates them for having won Z&F's game. - Eva shows up and somewhat gives them their blessings.
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2010-01-19, 14:24 | Link #947 | |
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Because "There can be only one".
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2010-01-19, 14:58 | Link #948 | |
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"No corpses exist except those of characters who have appeared in the story." Well, it's real in that's how the tea party was. Where things go from here is really anyone's guess.
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2010-01-19, 15:41 | Link #952 | |
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As for the second... well, if you subscribe to Shkannon in any way, that maid uniform obviously has pads... Wouldn't that be awkward. |
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2010-01-19, 16:01 | Link #953 |
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My problem with Erika being a fake corpses is that
1) We have no knowledge of her existence until EP 5. Therefore using her to solve the game, when we had no idea she was even a possible element, technically goes against Knox Rule #8 (clues must be given) and the idea that you can use EP 1-4 alone to solve the game. 2) Erika is clearly a younger looking girl than Shannon. I'm sure Nanjo or Hideyoshi would have noticed, unless they decided to lie. 3) Erika is literally a random element. We don't know if she washes up on shore or not in the other games, whether it be dead or alive. This is why Hachijou was suddenly able to write her into the story, because there is a possibility of her washing up but it's also a possibility that she doesn't wash up. |
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The same is true of things like "pretending not to know what's going on" or "pretending they aren't plotting murder." Some piece on the board - perhaps several - is killing people in a rather horrible manner. In fact, we know this has to be true. Somebody's true nature is a lie. Even ep6 doesn't seem to give us a particularly valid reason for our major suspects to be killing. So either we've got the wrong person, or the wrong reason, or we're being shown the person's deceptive side. Dlanor's point is more that a piece cannot be made to do things contrary to its nature, but the game might depict them doing things that are against their nature if it can be explained without directly contradicting what that piece would do. If it isn't in Krauss's nature to go for a walk in the woods, then in no episode can he take a walk in the woods. But it might be in his nature to lie about his location, in which case he might say "I was walking in the woods," or even have a scene showing him walking in the woods even though that's false. Likewise, some character is giving off the impression it isn't in their nature to kill. But that's a lie, it isn't against their nature, and neither is lying about or concealing it. Quote:
I highly doubt there isn't a good reason Battler is always surviving so late, although when "Beatrice" dies or otherwise is unable to protect him further I have to assume his continued survival becomes a matter of coincidence and the foresight to stick with other survivors rather than someone actively watching out for him. Being the last person alive in ep4 almost certainly was the result of the second-to-last person alive either refusing to kill him or dying before they were able to. In the latter case it would be a coincidence, and not an enormous one really. RANDOM FUN FACT: The chance of surviving a completely random First Twilight four times in succession is about 19%. There's about a 1% chance of being chosen all four times. Of course, no one person was ever chosen all four times in the first four episodes. And this probability assumes a 1:18, even though it possibly should be 1:16 (Kinzo not counted, the killer him or herself not counted). Of course ep3 proves Kinzo is still a valid choice, and the only person who could be the "killer excluded" from a random selection would be Dr. Nanjo. Quote:
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2010-01-19, 17:30 | Link #957 | |
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However, I cannot accept "Person 1, Person 2, Person 3, Person 4, Person 5, Person 3's Alternate Personality, six people are dead!" Besides, if Shkanon is also Beatrice, then Beatrice is also dead, so it should be seven people. Granted, you can say "six people are dead" when seven people are, but at that point I'm rolling my eyes hard. |
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2010-01-19, 17:34 | Link #958 | |
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EDIT: ...Wait a second. The Japanese for that line is: 彼ら全員には致命傷となった銃創と思わしき傷痕があったぞ! Shouldn't that instead be translated as: All of them had wounds that were thought to be fatal gunshot wounds! Because if they were only thought to be fatal, that's a whole different kettle of seagulls. Last edited by LyricalAura; 2010-01-19 at 17:45. |
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2010-01-19, 17:51 | Link #959 |
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Battler isn't the only person who had a pattern to their deaths (or lack thereof).
Maria survives through games 1, 2, and 4. She dies in the 3rd game after Beato loses control of the game to Eva-Beatrice, and on the first twilight of the 5th game where Beato never had control of the game board. In other words, whenever Beato loses control of the game board Maria dies on the first twilight after the loss of control. |
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