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SkyFlames · 2011-02-17, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Hooves

Shana is just about the age Yuji is from where I my info bank. (Information below is IMO and from what I learned)

Shana was 11 when she became a Flame Haze, and when she became a Flame Haze was during the time when Hong Kong became a bustling metropolis which was around 1997. Since the novels first came out in 2002 and since authors usually like using their version of "modern" time into storyline, then we can assume she was about 16 when she met Yuji. This is only assuring since I read a comment about someone saying that Shana became a Flame Haze then, but still not clarified that it was true. But her life has been fully devoted into her duty as a Flame Haze, so it's pretty understandable how she can be childish when it comes to emotional feelings for other people.

But I do agree that Ike may be going over his head trying to get Yoshida's attention with all his attempts, but it seems pretty clear that he did "fall in love" with Yoshida with all the attempts he has been going about. But if he hasn't moved on to another cute girl in school, then we can still see a IkexYoshida relationship forming.

I remember now another girl in the school, with glasses that spend time with Ike. Just saying :P
And yeah, if we take the fact that Shana, Yuji and Yoshida are teenagers, thene it's natural to see them as inmature, but I can easily take the first two and say that with all the experiences, the risks and events that they lived, a kind of "early matureness" due that they don't just think in love, but on real problems and the people that is involved in them (in this point is where Yoshida fails, due that she only cares about her "love" and nothing else).

Athena · 2011-02-17, 01:32

Can someone please give me an adequate synopsis of Shana V1-V4 for... well, you'll know it surely in a few hours.

Blutsauger · 2011-02-17, 02:09

I'm guessing that's majority of the first season, so what happens is...screw it, I tried explaining it to a friend last night, and well. It didn't end good. I made it sound crap, but my friend still continued to read the manga and she liked it very much.

*proud of recruiting another Shana fan*
But, never the less, I will give it my best shot.

Spoiler for Episodes 1-something season 1:

That's all I am going to say. hope that helped a little, and someone can continue from where I left off.

SkyFlames · 2011-02-17, 06:26

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Originally Posted by Blutsauger

I'm guessing that's majority of the first season, so what happens is...screw it, I tried explaining it to a friend last night, and well. It didn't end good. I made it sound crap, but my friend still continued to read the manga and she liked it very much.

*proud of recruiting another Shana fan*
But, never the less, I will give it my best shot.

Spoiler for Episodes 1-something season 1:

That's all I am going to say. hope that helped a little, and someone can continue from where I left off.

That's pretty much volumes I-II.
Volumes III-IV are focused mainly in the Aizens' event.

Spoiler for Volume III:

A month passed since the Corps Collector event and the Margery's fight, Shana have became closer to Yuji and he helps her on her night training by giving her power of existence (as he got the Reiji Maigo, he was always abble to give her some) one night he asks her to "stay with him forever", halft on words, halft with his eyes, Shana gets the mensagge but just takes Yuji back to his room and doesn't respond. Aizenji Sorath and Aizenta Tiriel, better known as "the Aizens" arrive to the city with Senpen Sydonay as bodyguard, looking for the hougu Nietono no Shana (Shana's sword), they got a hougu to create another dimension similar to a Fuzetsu but that isn't detectable to the Flame Hazes, so they are abble to get power of existence while setting traps and a Jizaiho to trap the sword's owner. Margery while then, is devastasted for being defeated by which one she knows as Flaming-Haired-Blazing-Eyes Hunter. Shana and Yuji become much closer to the point of arguing each other for jealously just as a couple, to which one Shana gets happy to know that she wasn't the only one that got that feeling. Shana asks Chigusa the meaning of kissing as the Corps Collector told Yuji to kiss her if she gets depresed, she gaves her a wise answer and warns her to don't let herselft being kissed so easily. Alastor gets alarmed by this and in an attempt to prevent a Yuji-Shana relationship manages to speak to Chigusa by a cellphone, but she fastly changes his mind, saying that Yuji wasn't the kind of guy that would try something and Shana wasn't enough innocent to fall so simply. Alastor recapacitates and apologizes her for being so disrespectfull. Shana and Yuji while then are observing a wonderful view of the stars in the sky, and Yuji indirectly asks her the same request, to which one she smiles this time.
The Aizens creates a distorsion that Margery detects and gets to there for a fight, seems that Sydonay is an old rival of her as they know each other, it's pretty much an overpowered 3 vs 1 battle till Sorath tells Tiriel that she doesn't got the Nietono, so Sydonay stays to fight her while the Aizens scape to find the other Flame Haze. Shana and the others are eating their bentos in the school's roof, Ike argues to the point of screaming to Yuji for accept the Kazumi's bento while being in a relationship with Shana (misundestood from him), who saw them that night alone in the riverside. Yoshida runs crying (what a surprise..) while Yuj asks Shana to leave to get a moment to speak with Ike. When he was about to ask him if he was in-love with Kazumi, a Jizaiho appears in the school
*Still reading* (10 pages left)

I avoided the incest scenes due to... well... I would end up with a trauma once again.
Volume IV is the Aizen's fight and death.

Hooves · 2011-02-17, 16:20

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Originally Posted by SkyFlames

I avoided the incest scenes due to... well... I would end up with a trauma once again.
Volume IV is the Aizen's fight and death.

Thank goodness that you did... The incest.... Oh the horror... (Not saying I hate incest, just "their" type of incest scares me)

Blutsauger · 2011-02-17, 16:35

Okay. Give me a second. What Incest? I didn't read the novels, I only watched the anime. And I don't believe I talked about Friagne, wouldn't that be included before the "aizens" saga?
Loving your hate for Yoshida! xD

SkyFlames · 2011-02-17, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Hooves

Thank goodness that you did... The incest.... Oh the horror... (Not saying I hate incest, just "their" type of incest scares me)

Yeah I get you... The author really made good villains that you want to see dead since the first appearence

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Originally Posted by Blutsauger

Okay. Give me a second. What Incest? I didn't read the novels, I only watched the anime. And I don't believe I talked about Friagne, wouldn't that be included before the "aizens" saga?
Loving your hate for Yoshida! xD

You gotta be kidding... You don't remember the incest of that pervert brothers? You are damn lucky.
Here is a image of them, picked a novel's one because surelly all the ones from the anime are of kissing or something like that.

Spoiler for Aizens:

Athena · 2011-02-17, 18:15

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Originally Posted by SkyFlames

Spoiler for Aizens:

The worst thing to do was to post a picture with it. Adding insult to injury.

SkyFlames · 2011-02-17, 18:32

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Originally Posted by kira0802

The worst thing to do was to post a picture with it. Adding insult to injury.

Well, it is the volume's cover, so doesn't got any traumatic material like the one that you find in the novel or anime, just the characters so I think it is ok.

Blutsauger · 2011-02-17, 22:25

Oh...That Incest. I thought I was missing something. I don't use Aizens, or Incest. I just say Cradle Garden Saga and The "Kissing". I've never seen it called the "incest"

But that was VERY awkward. Let's move on shall we? SO what happens in Volume 5? Misago Festival and the burning of the Birds?

SkyFlames · 2011-02-18, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Blutsauger

Oh...That Incest. I thought I was missing something. I don't use Aizens, or Incest. I just say Cradle Garden Saga and The "Kissing". I've never seen it called the "incest"

But that was VERY awkward. Let's move on shall we? SO what happens in Volume 5? Misago Festival and the burning of the Birds?

Now that I remember, the name "Aizens" is only used in the novels so now I understand why you didn't remember it. I also wondered who the heck were them when I first readed their names

Anyways, could not find anything related to chapter 5, but as I see in the RAW images is a flashback to Shana's training and ascension as Flame Haze.

pancakes · 2011-02-18, 17:41

Okay....Ive been a big fan of this series for a long time,and recently there have been a lot of questions that I could not find answers for. Ive never used this site before and I only am now to ask some questions.(Since you guys sound like you know what you're talking about) If you could reply I would greatly appreciate it.
1.Is the light novel (in japan)completed yet?
2.If so,why cant i get any information about any novel past id say 17 and up?
3.Where do you get up to date information about SNS and how do you guys know all these spoilers?

I have many other questions that I need answered, buy they are more opinionated and about the actual show,so I will save them for a different time. Thanks.

SkyFlames · 2011-02-18, 18:21

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Originally Posted by pancakes

Okay....Ive been a big fan of this series for a long time,and recently there have been a lot of questions that I could not find answers for. Ive never used this site before and I only am now to ask some questions.(Since you guys sound like you know what you're talking about) If you could reply I would greatly appreciate it.
1.Is the light novel (in japan)completed yet?
2.If so,why cant i get any information about any novel past id say 17 and up?
3.Where do you get up to date information about SNS and how do you guys know all these spoilers?

I have many other questions that I need answered, buy they are more opinionated and about the actual show,so I will save them for a different time. Thanks.

1. The Light Novels counts with 21 volumes + specials. The last book is spected to be released late in this year, probably at the begining/end of anime Season 3.
2. I guess that is because the only novels you will find is on RAW versions (Japanese) and the level of reading skills that you must have to actually understand what is written is to equivalent a student that is ending high school on Japan or someone that is entering to college (if you know how they study their own language, you will understand).
3. The spoilers that I and mostly of the others members got comes from persons like Flere821, Hooves and other members that either have been looking for them long time or they personaly read it and bothers on explaining us what is happening so we don't die in the ignrance

Blutsauger · 2011-02-18, 18:36

Indeed. SkyFlames, Hooves etc. have spent the time and effort sharing what is happening in the Shana novels to people like me that don't know. I would like to take time to thank these people.
I am pretty sure Season 3 of the anime won't be released Until the release of the last novel so they know where to lead the anime watchers. Just thinking about it now, No fan subs should be available would it. I mean with Viz, protection rights and all now. I found a website that allows you to download the entire series of season 1 and 2. For those people who want it, PM me but I must warn you, there are a plentiful of ads. If you could get passed those, then you will be able to download them. I recommend the download links from MegaUpload, and try finding one that says "[ss-eclipse]" at the start. I find those ones the best. But be mindful of 2 of them. There are 2 that say [ss-eclipse] at the end of [ss-eclipse] it must say .avi and not .rar Otherwise, you only get half of the rar file and that is useless as I don't know where ist the other half.
Anyways, I'm hoping someone would take the time and risk themselves to make a fan-subbed version of season 3.

SkyFlames · 2011-02-18, 18:51

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Originally Posted by Blutsauger

Indeed. SkyFlames, Hooves etc. have spent the time and effort sharing what is happening in the Shana novels to people like me that don't know. I would like to take time to thank these people.
I am pretty sure Season 3 of the anime won't be released Until the release of the last novel so they know where to lead the anime watchers. Just thinking about it now, No fan subs should be available would it. I mean with Viz, protection rights and all now. I found a website that allows you to download the entire series of season 1 and 2. For those people who want it, PM me but I must warn you, there are a plentiful of ads. If you could get passed those, then you will be able to download them. I recommend the download links from MegaUpload, and try finding one that says "[ss-eclipse]" at the start. I find those ones the best. But be mindful of 2 of them. There are 2 that say [ss-eclipse] at the end of [ss-eclipse] it must say .avi and not .rar Otherwise, you only get half of the rar file and that is useless as I don't know where ist the other half.
Anyways, I'm hoping someone would take the time and risk themselves to make a fan-subbed version of season 3.

Actually all my knowledge of the novels comes from this thread's discussion, you can look out at my first post here that I didn't even now that there was so many novels. The real heros here are Flere821 and Hooves

. And about the fansub, I think you must remember that when OVA 4 came out on October.. mmm *memory failure* October 5? anyways, the subbed version was already in both, english and spanish 1 week after the original release. And come on, is SnS III, everyone would kill for a piece of it

Blutsauger · 2011-02-18, 19:36

hmm...True. But I watched OVA 4 straight away when it came out with no subs...Could understand majority of it, but I must admit, some vocab I don't know...But, nonetheless, I have my jisho.org to help me! Being an OVA, it had no real part in the actual story does it...

SkyFlames · 2011-02-18, 19:57

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Originally Posted by Blutsauger

hmm...True. But I watched OVA 4 straight away when it came out with no subs...Could understand majority of it, but I must admit, some vocab I don't know...But, nonetheless, I have my jisho.org to help me! Being an OVA, it had no real part in the actual story does it...

Actually, OVA 3 and 4 can be considered "canon" (part of the original story) instead of a spin off, since doesn't affect the original plot. As it is previous to the Shana's arrive to Misaki. Besides, you can see that the last scene definitely connects both, the OVA and the season 1/2 together.
PS: Just remember something.
Didn't Alastor just said something like..
"Someday at the end of this journey, you will find somebody that will accept you as you are"
We can defiitely say that the someone resulted to be Yuji, but what did he mean with "end of this journey"? The end of her Flame Haze duty?

Blutsauger · 2011-02-18, 22:42

I remember someone saying something like that. I thought it was referring to the end of being a flame haze. Like, she can finally rest and live normal life as a human and she will make friends or something. That's how I saw it. But people see things differently. I'm not even sure if I am talking about the right thing!

Elf song · 2011-02-19, 01:35

More like meeting someone who'd accepted her as the way she is without taking somebody's existence as a cover, I think.

Hooves · 2011-02-19, 02:53

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Originally Posted by SkyFlames

Actually, OVA 3 and 4 can be considered "canon" (part of the original story) instead of a spin off, since doesn't affect the original plot. As it is previous to the Shana's arrive to Misaki. Besides, you can see that the last scene definitely connects both, the OVA and the season 1/2 together.
PS: Just remember something.
Didn't Alastor just said something like..
"Someday at the end of this journey, you will find somebody that will accept you as you are"
We can defiitely say that the someone resulted to be Yuji, but what did he mean with "end of this journey"? The end of her Flame Haze duty?

Shakugan no Shana S OVA episodes 1 and 2 were actually quite nice to watch, even though they had nothing to do with the story overall

(we all should probably have shared a good few laughs from episode 1 especially

) Also that sounds about right when Alastor said "End of this journey" since Flame Hazes apparently don't age anymore once they make a contract with a Crimson Lord, and can continue to live and fight "bad" tomogaras. So when Alastor said this, he probably meant by the time all the Tomogaras that steal PoE from people are all gone, and that will be the end of her journey. Just like you all said.

2011-02-17, 01:32	Link #3282
Athena The Power of One Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Earth	Can someone please give me an adequate synopsis of Shana V1-V4 for... well, you'll know it surely in a few hours. __________________

2011-02-17, 02:09	Link #3283
Blutsauger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia	I'm guessing that's majority of the first season, so what happens is...screw it, I tried explaining it to a friend last night, and well. It didn't end good. I made it sound crap, but my friend still continued to read the manga and she liked it very much. proud of recruiting another Shana fan But, never the less, I will give it my best shot. Spoiler for Episodes 1-something season 1: Sakai Yuji is a school boy who lives in Misaki City, and goes to (?)Misaki high(?). he lives his normal everyday life with his best friend Ike and starts his school life meeting a Girl called Hirai Yukari. He met her because he dropped his rubber and she picked it up for him during class, and when he spaced out and the sensei asked him to follow on from where he left in reading (?)romeo and juliet(?)She pointed it out for him. Sakai asked if Ike could play with him at an arcade but he had to cram. So Yuji went by himself and saw Hirai. Something happened [not very useful] and Hirai left the arcade and then a fuzetsu appears and Yuji finds everyone frozen and wonders what the hell is going on? A Rinne appears in the shape of a giant doll as well as a ball of faces and starts to 'devour' people. They notice Yuji moving and want to eat him but Shana appears and cuts the Doll Rinne's arm. as well as half of Yuji's shoulder. Yuji is saved and Shana beats the shits out of the Rinnes and Shana uses Hirai's existence to restore the place and takes her place in the world. Shana then kinda vows to protect Yuji until she knows what mystes he is. they go to school and everything and then one night, Shana sees Yuji's flame replenish as well as Alastor. They ponder if they have found the Reiji Maigo or not and continue they're school lives. etc. Margery appears, but Shana doesn't care, she thinks maybe that flame haze will just butt out of the city once she is finished her job and then after a few days they fight and Shana engulfed in rage about why does a Mystes care for her so much loses that fight. That's all I am going to say. hope that helped a little, and someone can continue from where I left off.

2011-02-17, 16:35	Link #3286
Blutsauger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia	Okay. Give me a second. What Incest? I didn't read the novels, I only watched the anime. And I don't believe I talked about Friagne, wouldn't that be included before the "aizens" saga? Loving your hate for Yoshida! xD

2011-02-17, 22:25	Link #3290
Blutsauger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia	Oh...That Incest. I thought I was missing something. I don't use Aizens, or Incest. I just say Cradle Garden Saga and The "Kissing". I've never seen it called the "incest" But that was VERY awkward. Let's move on shall we? SO what happens in Volume 5? Misago Festival and the burning of the Birds?

2011-02-18, 17:41	Link #3292
pancakes Senior Member Author Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: United States Age: 30	Okay....Ive been a big fan of this series for a long time,and recently there have been a lot of questions that I could not find answers for. Ive never used this site before and I only am now to ask some questions.(Since you guys sound like you know what you're talking about) If you could reply I would greatly appreciate it. 1.Is the light novel (in japan)completed yet? 2.If so,why cant i get any information about any novel past id say 17 and up? 3.Where do you get up to date information about SNS and how do you guys know all these spoilers? I have many other questions that I need answered, buy they are more opinionated and about the actual show,so I will save them for a different time. Thanks.

2011-02-18, 18:36	Link #3294
Blutsauger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia	Indeed. SkyFlames, Hooves etc. have spent the time and effort sharing what is happening in the Shana novels to people like me that don't know. I would like to take time to thank these people. I am pretty sure Season 3 of the anime won't be released Until the release of the last novel so they know where to lead the anime watchers. Just thinking about it now, No fan subs should be available would it. I mean with Viz, protection rights and all now. I found a website that allows you to download the entire series of season 1 and 2. For those people who want it, PM me but I must warn you, there are a plentiful of ads. If you could get passed those, then you will be able to download them. I recommend the download links from MegaUpload, and try finding one that says "[ss-eclipse]" at the start. I find those ones the best. But be mindful of 2 of them. There are 2 that say [ss-eclipse] at the end of [ss-eclipse] it must say .avi and not .rar Otherwise, you only get half of the rar file and that is useless as I don't know where ist the other half. Anyways, I'm hoping someone would take the time and risk themselves to make a fan-subbed version of season 3.

2011-02-18, 19:36	Link #3296
Blutsauger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia	hmm...True. But I watched OVA 4 straight away when it came out with no subs...Could understand majority of it, but I must admit, some vocab I don't know...But, nonetheless, I have my jisho.org to help me! Being an OVA, it had no real part in the actual story does it...

2011-02-18, 22:42	Link #3298
Blutsauger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia	I remember someone saying something like that. I thought it was referring to the end of being a flame haze. Like, she can finally rest and live normal life as a human and she will make friends or something. That's how I saw it. But people see things differently. I'm not even sure if I am talking about the right thing!

2011-02-19, 01:35	Link #3299
Elf song Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	More like meeting someone who'd accepted her as the way she is without taking somebody's existence as a cover, I think.