2010-07-07, 21:05 | Link #241 |
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he does know the basics of yoma and awakened beings. isley-sama probably did say something but didn't really go into detail since raki is focused in gettin' stronger. besides, raki is a smart individual.
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2010-07-08, 00:17 | Link #245 | |
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Elena....I sort of wonder why she wasn't in Extra Chapter 4. She was supposed to be Claire's "best friend" or something, but she's nigh-forgettable. Not that she sticks out like a sore-thumb, it's just hard to remember her at all, and to be Claire's close friend like that is a huge feat in my opinion 0_0. She could be just a product of early-writing and Yagi may have made a mistake in her creation, but what he should do now is, instead of pretending she doesn't exist, go further and develop her, so we see this friendship between the two.
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2010-07-08, 00:32 | Link #246 | |
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Maybe in another extra chapter but personally I don't really want the main chapters to dedicate themselves to a side character who has no relevance in this story (she was a plot device to explain the awakening process to the readers & to raki). I don't mean this harshly about Elena but it would be like yagi suddenly deciding to dedicate a chapter about that other claymore trainee that graduated with Clare its not important at all to the main story. The only reason those two became friends (Elena and Clare) was due to they shared a room (I presume that they were paired off but that the number 1 normally stays alone except in Alicia + Beths case) & joined at the same time. Its also possible that Elena and that claymore Clare graduated with are the same people just that she has longer hair (and she wasn't as angsty towards Clare any more which explains her friendlier attitude towards Clare). anyway I would prefer that yagi doesn't do anything of the sort
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2010-07-08, 02:30 | Link #247 |
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Elena 'graduated' and started taking missions after Clare... almost the entire extra-chapter was about Clare's graduation, so it's understandable she didn't appear. And yes, she was quite a plot device to explain the awakening stuff... a minor character who accomplished her role. Let her rest at ease.
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2010-07-08, 02:32 | Link #248 | |
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but yea let her rest, she done her job as a plot device and doesn't need to be seen or mentioned again
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2010-07-08, 03:40 | Link #249 | |
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2010-07-08, 10:26 | Link #251 |
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Well, Raki knew exactly when to defend and with what, when he was fighting that yoma back in Rabona alongside Prissy that is. And he knew exactly when to attack and where to cut to be precise. No doubt that these trends were taught to him by the man, Isley that is. Which is why, I do agree, so much with Shieky, on this particular point.
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2010-07-08, 10:51 | Link #253 |
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And I do agree with you as well, evil twin of kenshin, that Clare also did teach Raki a thing or two. You have no idea how easy it is to make silly similar mistakes like mixing up names e k. Thanks for correcting it though.
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2010-07-08, 10:53 | Link #254 |
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sorry I know its easy to make mistakes Just found it funny I was annoyed about how the official manga has that error earlier today (though Rubel calls the town he reunites with Clare in Rabona) then I see it online too
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What did Viz screw up exactly??
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2010-07-08, 11:25 | Link #259 | |
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having Rubel call the town he re-encountered Clare in (when clare cynthia and yuma were fighting together) Rabona is just one of the mistakes viz made lol
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One thing is for sure about Isley: he is a strategist, and wants people to know what he wants them to know. He is intelligent, methodical....we can only guess what he truly knew. --- That's my problem with Elena; yes I am aware she is a plot-device, but at the same time, she was Claire's friend....their's something about having that significance that makes her both totally forgettable, and unforgettable. For all we know, Elena could have been the closest to her after Teresa, and before Raki....she could have been closer to then all the Ghosts. The other problem is that Claymore really isn't supposed to have plot-devices; while Yagi has goofed on that part recently(Zombie-Dauf), for the most part, their are no "one-shot" characters, but Elena fills that role. She contradicts one of the story's main positive attributes, and it wouldn't be such a big deal if she didn't have the understated important role of being Claire's friend. It's nothing crazy: put her in the next Extra Chapter, bring her up in the next databook....Yagi should do something to remind himself and us that she actually existed.
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