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Really? What about "Dick" Spandam or the "Assfuck" Tenryubito (these are official titles, mind you)? Wapol seems like a feather-weight compared to their sheer douchebaggery. |
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@Phenom:why are you arguing again about the canon fact Luffy and Zoro are equals in battle power, seriously if they don't accept it from the supposed "best Arthur in jump" lol you think they are going to listen to you? shut Up.(JK) Last edited by Master Mold; 2009-07-31 at 00:40. |
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Tried throwing a tomato at the blade of a sharp knife? that's what would happen to luffy's leg except that since luffy would be kicking at a very strong force, luffy's leg should be pretty much gone. |
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2009-07-31, 01:46 | Link #184 | |
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So by the time Daz Bones start to think about turn his arms or legs into sword to block Luffy's attack, he probably have eat enough dose of Gomu Gomu gattling.... The scenario will be like: Daz Bones: "Hmmm.. he rush in, i will just turn my....." *die*
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--- That being said, and to actually get back to the chapter at hand, and not meaningless pissing contests ("blah blah, my character is better than yours, and here is my interpretation of events that make me right, blah blah!"), are there any good ideas for how or who opened the Gate of Justice? I kind of want either Garp or DoFlamingo to have opened the Gate. I have no real reason for wanting this, especially for Garp who is too far out of the way to have actually done it, but DoFlamingo could potentially use his powers to have done it. Additionally, maybe Hancock "charmed" someone to open the gate. Whatever the case, it is an interesting mystery that I hope will addressed sometime soon...then again WAR, so who cares about whomever opened the door, just let the fighting start . While Luffy will certainly enter the field next chapter, I do not expect anymore from him for at leats the next 3 chapters. Added to that, the Chopper mini-story is a bit of a letdown. What happened to the giant birds he ran into originally? That being said, the little savage kid was worth a chuckle, and the weapons they are using look interesting (rocket propelled spears ), but the perspective is all off, and the sketching seems to be very last minute. Here's hoping next week's episode is more interesting, because right now I am more underwhelmed than with Usopp's mini-story. Last edited by james0246; 2009-07-31 at 04:54. |
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World Nobles? How about Zoro picking up the injured guy and taking him to the hopsital? Captain Morgan? I'm sure Luffy would have saved Nami's village even if he didn't want her as a crewmate. Quote:
Regarding the whole Zoro v Luffy thing, I think that their difference in strength isn't as great as the difference in strength between Daz and Luffy. However, Zoro's inherent advantage isn't as great either (as his body isn't a huge blade), thus I think Luffy's strength will prevail. Luffy is a stronger character; why is it so hard to accept that? Btw does noone find this interesting:~ Quote:
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2009-07-31, 04:10 | Link #189 | |
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You're so full of shit its almost funny but not really because you're making me waste my time but typing this. There are quite a number of reasons why I believe Luffy to be a stronger character: 1) Luffy is the captain 2) Zoro is a character who respects strength. He would never follow someone who he did not believe was stronger then himself. 3) There have been several characters who have commented on that and their relationship. FOR EXAMPLE: Quote:
4) Luffy always fights the strongest enemy (often by some distance to the second strongest): Kuro, Arlong, Krieg, Croc, Enel, Lucci (2x as powerful as Kaku and Jyabura), Moria, implying that he is the strongest member of the crew. 5) Luffy's bounty is twice Zoro's. 6) Luffy's dream is to become Pirate King; Zoro's is to become the greatest swordsman. Mihawk HIMSELF commented on this, saying that Luffy's dream was even harder then Zoro's, and that Luffy would have to surpass him (Mihawk) to reach it. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/52/11/
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^This thread needs to get back on track and away from pointless discussion. A war is about to hit, there is plenty of interesting things in this chapter to discuss.
--- And, yes, I did find it interesting that Ace was offered the position of Shichibukai. I don't really think the position was filled later on by Mihawk, though. He has been famous for too long for him not to have accepted, or become ineligable, for the title quite some time ago. So, it was probably Kuma or DoFlamingo that eventually accepted the position, with Kuma being my guess (I say this for no other reason than X. Drake mentioning the recentness of the Pacifistas, this could have nothing to do with Kuma, or it could be indicitive of Kuma's rise to power). Last edited by james0246; 2009-07-31 at 04:53. |
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See I would have let this slip......but nooooo someone had to go and toss around insults.
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Additionally, I fully understand what is in the books and what is not, my point was that the ratings, whatever they may be, and whether or not they are used or not, do not include multipliers. This is the case with all data books for the Big 3 and most other series (that receive one). While techniques may be listed, how they effect the overall power rating are never numerically given. Consequently, once again, it is almost impossible to compare the characters based solely on info derived from the data books (this is more infamously seen by posters trying to compare data from the Naruto data books; thankfully this doesn't really occur among One Piece fans). |
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No, it is that deep. People misuse these books all the time. They are useful only as a means of providing info on character background, general histories, technique names (and if available, ranks), etc. They are not meant to be Versus materials, and the like, and to use them to justify a versus discussion is false.
That being said, can we please drop this pointless discussion. We all have big dicks, and we can all pee far. This is a worthless debate to have in a Current Chapter thread, and we all look just silly for even trying to continue it. So, can we please just give up this line of discussion (or at least start a new thread only dealing with this line of discussion). |
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Chinese readers, gather and translate, yes its Chinese and not even Japanese, we're doing a translation of a translation here, its the source where Phenomenal used:
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If it was written this way: "保持著和路飛一様高的戦鬥力" Then Phenomenal and Master Mold is correct. "一様高的戦鬥力" means 'battle capability as strong as'. But no, it is written "保持著和路飛一様的高戦鬥力", which points that Luffy and Zoro are just people with high capability. You can insert, Sanji, Franky, the Supernovas, the Shichibukai, Admirals, Yonkou, everyone who has high battle capability into the same sentence. "Zoro has a high battle capability like Daz Bones" "Zoro has a high battle capability like Rayleigh" "Zoro has a high battle capability like Lucci" This is what the sentence means. ------------------ And on Zoro having a draw with Luffy, lets put them in numbers and Zoro having advantage over Luffy by using swords as a 200% multiplier. Lets say Luffy has a strength of 10, Zoro draws with him. This means Zoro only has a strength of 5, it is multiplied by 2 to match Luffy. Ok that's a bit too much, how bout a 125% multiplier. Which means Zoro only has a strength of 8, multiplied by 125% to become 10 to match Luffy. Now lets put Zoro and Luffy against someone else as an example, lets say Lucci has a rating of 9. Luffy can beat Lucci because his rating is 10, Lucci loses because he is 9. Zoro can't beat Lucci because his rating is 8, Lucci wins because he is 9. This shows that even with Zoro drawing with Luffy, he can only draw with added advantage with swords. He is weaker when compared to other characters.
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Well, the books seem to baffle you, and quite a few other people...
No, it is correct. Any logical thinking person would realize that the stats in a data book make almost no sense when compared against each other, especially since various multipliers are never taken into account in the presentation of the stats (as C.A. has so elequently shown...and he has effortlessly denounced and trounced any argument you falsely formulate from the data books), and some stats are said to be equal amongst the characters, but are never shown to be equal in the series (this happens all the time in the Naruto stat sheets), etc. Then I am glad you have a big dick like me, and are willing to toss aside this worthless conversation (I have even edited a lot of my posts to get rid of this conversation). |
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I am pretty sure that Master Mold and Phenomenom are both accounts controlled by one person and he is just lame enough to use 2 accounts for trolling.
It is pretty obvious if you compare those posts and how they are typed and general message on them, only diffrence is those thumb sigs that are inserted to Master Molds posts. They are both just trolls trying to cause flame wars on numerous threads. |
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^Hey your right, you got a eye for detail, I also think James0246 is my 3rd account that I use, heck lets take this to the Mods and see what they think of your great deduction skills, With an eye for detail, only one truth prevails.
On topic, is it me or does the WG seem to be out numbered when it comes to named players on there side? but then again most of Newgates forces such as his 14 Commanders might not be given names (until a data book comes out sometime after this event) or could just be food for the strong, to coz hype for Odas neglected, missing speech bubble characters. Such as Mihawk, Doflamingo, smoker and gang, and maybe some Vice admirals. I hope next's weeks chapter sets up who is going to fight who or how. Last edited by Master Mold; 2009-07-31 at 05:54. |
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