Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon - Light Novel Discussion

[cyberdemon]

The Tenchi solution is such an underused concept lol. I too am a little surprised that Suzu isn't part of the mini harem though.

[Y Ddraig Goch]

Originally Posted by RaymondSageClark

Here, an explanation about Asama and her relationship in the pseudo-harem created by Horizon, I hope this helps (my english sucks):

Spoiler:

At the start Asama feels like this idea was weird, but after a little time she finally gets her own feelings, assuming her love for toori. The doubt about if Toori loves her still up until volume 6-C where Toori confesses his love for her too.

From Js06 pastebin:
" Chapter 69:
Toori and Asama fall into Unno's Yomi down below.
Asama has to kiss Toori to save him from the spell.
Asama defends against Unno until Muneshige, Gin, and Tenzou arrive and defeat Unno.
Toori more or less tells Asama her feelings are mutual and then kisses her.
Takigawa discusses her plans with Yoshiaki and Kasuya Takenori of the Speers."

Actually Horizon still the main girl and for Toori she is the love of his life, he Loves Asama too and Nate but only Asama achieve the goal of getting her feelings toward Toori confirmed and in both ways. Probably in volume 8 or volume 9 we're going to have some scene with Nate, remember she already confess her love for Toori.

Genuine question. What did you mean by "gets her own feelings"? The fact that she becomes accepting of the harem due to her feelings for him, or that Toori finally confessed to her and prior to that, she felt weird about it because she had her doubts?

[RaymondSageClark]

Originally Posted by Reality Breaker 2.0

Genuine question. What did you mean by "gets her own feelings"? The fact that she becomes accepting of the harem due to her feelings for him, or that Toori finally confessed to her and prior to that, she felt weird about it because she had her doubts?

Basically Asama always love Toori but she was unable to assume that until the chapter I post on the spoiler from volume 6-C. Nate and Asama becomes part of the harem only because Horizon ask them to join, the main reason is not both of them loves Toori, the main reason is they want to prevent Toori from getting sad and die because at that point of the story the problems and the possibility of someone close to him die is really high. Remember volume 3 and how class Plum was defeated, and how lives were lost at that time.

Toori never confessed his feelings until "that" moment on the spoiler, with this situation where Asama wants to protect Toori, she finally gets the courage to say "I love you" and toori says "I feel in the same way" (literal translation from Js06, long time ago when he posted this on Kawakami threads).

[Zefyris]

RaymondSageClark, you may want to spoiler tag a bit your answer above. The english translation isn't far enough to have reached some of what you're talking about

Spoiler for end of 3rd arc-don't open if you don't know what happens there:

so it's not "remember their defeat", for peoples reading in english they have yet to be defeated and those lives has yet to be lost. And you just stated their defeat on a top of a page ~

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

The Tenchi solution is such an underused concept lol. I too am a little surprised that Suzu isn't part of the mini harem though.

I'm actually looking forward to suzu finding a partner so not really a problem~

[Cosmic Eagle]

https://twitter.com/kawakamiminoru/s...168900608?s=06


Anyone knows where this is from?


Don't think it's a Daioh issue...is it?

[RaymondSageClark]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

https://twitter.com/kawakamiminoru/s...168900608?s=06


Anyone knows where this is from?


Don't think it's a Daioh issue...is it?

That is the second chapter of Hexennacht manga, written by Kawakami and some of those illustrations made by Satoyasu and another guy (can't remember the name). Overall is pretty good and interesting, and at the same time this have a LN called OBSTACLE.

[Zefyris]

That's not what Cosmic eagle is asking, he's asking which magazine this is.
As for the answer, not sure, but it's probably Dengeki bunko MAGAZINE vol 42.
On this page http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/magazine/ it is written that the obstacle 1st series Gekitotsu no Hexennacht will start being serialized this month. So this picture isn't the first manga chapter but the first part of the light novel.
According to that tweet, that first part is about 90 pages long if counting as bunkoban format.


BTW, reading the ookami to tamashii SS.

Oh, and seems like I managed to get my hand on the short stories kimitoasamade in scan (since almost impossible to get my hands on it with a physical copy legally~) so I'll probably start reading those in a while as well.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Ohh...so it's the first LN chapter


Urrghh... to get the super thick mags or to be patient and wait for the LN format @@

[ShadowSamurai365]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

RaymondSageClark, you may want to spoiler tag a bit your answer above. The english translation isn't far enough to have reached some of what you're talking about

Spoiler for end of 3rd arc-don't open if you don't know what happens there:

so it's not "remember their defeat", for peoples reading in english they have yet to be defeated and those lives has yet to be lost. And you just stated their defeat on a top of a page ~

I'm actually looking forward to suzu finding a partner so not really a problem~

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that, too. Truth be told (about finding partners), I'm surprised that some of these characters were actually able to find them. The ones that surprises me the most had to be the boxer (since I thought that he wouldn't be interested) and the student that others call a "lolicon" (I read from some spoilers on this forum that the author somehow justified it) Makes me wonder how these two was able to get their partners.

[Zefyris]

Finished the ookami to Tamashii SS. It was nice to see all those characters as they were 3 years ago.
Also, I lol'd at the first part (in present time) with Masazumi saying with a voice amplifier to the ghosts ships crew that Musashi was only hired to purge them so if they're angry about the purge they should fire on the "Client" (IE, the town right below them) instead. As expected of Masazumi, some times her way to do negotiate is so twisted that you just stay dumbfounded by the logic (even the ghost ship crew stopped firing and started to debate between themselves to decide who they should fire at, while the client was sending protestations mails to Musashi - and Masazumi to Asama : "reroot the mails to Ookubo" ahahah that girl is too much xD ).
That's the Masazumi we love alright x).

Originally Posted by ShadowSamurai365

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that, too. Truth be told (about finding partners), I'm surprised that some of these characters were actually able to find them. The ones that surprises me the most had to be the boxer (since I thought that he wouldn't be interested) and the student that others call a "lolicon" (I read from some spoilers on this forum that the author somehow justified it) Makes me wonder how these two was able to get their partners.

By boxer you mean Noriki and lolicon you mean Ohiroshiki? It seems you don't have the correct info here
For Noriki

Spoiler for arc 3 and 5:

His girlfriend was destined to be at his side since their birth, and they were childhood friends, so that's not something recent. His girlfriend has a... very complicated personality. And is quite the fighting monster too.
Anyway, Noriki is the kind of character that will take seriously and with maturity the responsibility that he thinks he has. He clearly considered that no one else than him could handle the situation about her properly without making her very unhappy, so he did go for it since he cares about here. That's very noriki-like I would say.
She's heels over head in love with Noriki so I guess Noriki will be able to manage somehow thanks to that despite her personality x).

For Ohiroshiki

Spoiler for slight spoiler:

-> he doesn't have a girlfriend as of the end of the 7th arc, so I think you're confusing either the characters or who is what. (Ohiroshiki is the short and fat boy)

[ShadowSamurai365]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

Finished the ookami to Tamashii SS. It was nice to see all those characters as they were 3 years ago.
Also, I lol'd at the first part (in present time) with Masazumi saying with a voice amplifier to the ghosts ships crew that Musashi was only hired to purge them so if they're angry about the purge they should fire on the "Client" (IE, the town right below them) instead. As expected of Masazumi, some times her way to do negotiate is so twisted that you just stay dumbfounded by the logic (even the ghost ship crew stopped firing and started to debate between themselves to decide who they should fire at, while the client was sending protestations mails to Musashi - and Masazumi to Asama : "reroot the mails to Ookubo" ahahah that girl is too much xD ).
That's the Masazumi we love alright x).



By boxer you mean Noriki and lolicon you mean Ohiroshiki? It seems you don't have the correct info here
For Noriki

Spoiler for arc 3 and 5:

His girlfriend was destined to be at his side since their birth, and they were childhood friends, so that's not something recent. His girlfriend has a... very complicated personality. And is quite the fighting monster too.
Anyway, Noriki is the kind of character that will take seriously and with maturity the responsibility that he thinks he has. He clearly considered that no one else than him could handle the situation about her properly without making her very unhappy, so he did go for it since he cares about here. That's very noriki-like I would say.
She's heels over head in love with Noriki so I guess Noriki will be able to manage somehow thanks to that despite her personality x).

For Ohiroshiki

Spoiler for slight spoiler:

-> he doesn't have a girlfriend as of the end of the 7th arc, so I think you're confusing either the characters or who is what. (Ohiroshiki is the short and fat boy)

Thanks for the clarifications on that. It just that I've seen the anime, and being hesitant of continuing reading the (translated) novels with the long level of text (fearing that I might not remember it all once read); so I'm just going by spoilers. I'm not really trying to say anything bad about Noriki. It just by the amount of screen time he had in the anime/interactions with other characters, he pegged me as a loner, so I'm actually glad that he's the type of character you described (then again, I do remember him saying he have siblings to take care of before I stopped reading; so that's bad on my part).

As for Ohiroshiki, it just that I remember some past post saying something about a ghost girl; so I guess that was just someone trolling.

[Zefyris]

There's only two"ghost girl" so far, one never set foot on Musashi, the other one is Poqou and Azuma's "daughter" (and for this one as ong as Poqou live Ohiroshiki isn't going to be allowed to get close to her lol xD )

Yes, exactly, it's just like how he's takin care properly of his younger siblings, using his free time to do part time job in order to ensure that they have the money so they can live properly.

[JimJiminy02]

So in volume 3A, I remember Naruze stated that to avoid inheriting the Naruse Masayoshi name who died in the Battle of Mikatagahara she would just have Naito become her wife.

Does that actually happen in future volumes or is it never brought up again?

[Zefyris]

The part about Naruse Masayoshi is going to be brought up again, but only the part about the "death", not the "wife" part.

[mPervy]

Oh, since thread got active again I wanna ask, are there any reason for Torii crosdressing in volume 5? I was sooo curious since I saw it a long time ago. Beside, it seem

Spoiler for after cross-dressing:

Torii could get hurt from female attack, which is impossible considering His bokke god protection would make Him practically undefeated when facing woman. Oh, also I read in Js06 pastebin spoiler that He join the fight in that particular arc, and again it was impossible since He's pretty weak. And TBH, I can't see it as a cross-dressing since it seem so natural that He look like a real girl. With all those jiggling boob... Lol

Oh, and did Hori-ko already activated the OS from the other Logismo Opplo?

[Zefyris]

There was some stupid reason IIRC. But it wasn't his first time at all using that cross dress, so it was nothing new. What's important there is not why he was doing it (he did it in the end of the volume 3 too, and so on), but what happened because he did it x)

Originally Posted by mPervy

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Spoiler for after cross-dressing:

Torii could get hurt from female attack, which is impossible considering His bokke god protection would make Him practically undefeated when facing woman. Oh, also I read in Js06 pastebin spoiler that He join the fight in that particular arc, and again it was impossible since He's pretty weak. And TBH, I can't see it as a cross-dressing since it seem so natural that He look like a real girl. With all those jiggling boob... Lol

Spoiler for volume 5:

By joining the fight, he just get involved in it, and jump on Horizon to protect her, getting hurt instead. And that's not a woman who wounds him, but a 120m long celestial dragon.
According to the big breat specialist Tenzou, the way true big boobs jiggle is different from the way Toori's false breasts jiggle, which allow him to immediately tell the difference.

Originally Posted by mPervy

Oh, and did Hori-ko already activated the OS from the other Logismo Opplo?

Spoiler for volume 7:

She still has 3 to activate (including two that she doesn't own yet) by the end of the 7th arc.

[mPervy]

Lol... So it was His usual crazy antics afterall. And let me guess, He did it to harass Tenzo, since if I'm not wrong, Tenzo's fetish was blonde, curvy with miko outfit.

[JimJiminy02]

So after reading 3C chpt 63, I have to ask: How many more clues to the Lost Nobles incidents have they found or have they solved it?
The line "the princess has a parent" and the info of a nonexistent academy really intrigue me.
(don't care about spoilers because I'll forget them before the translation would catch up to that point)

[Zefyris]

Originally Posted by mPervy

Lol... So it was His usual crazy antics afterall. And let me guess, He did it to harass Tenzo, since if I'm not wrong, Tenzo's fetish was blonde, curvy with miko outfit.

Yes, he harassed Tenzou with that at first indeed.

They haven't solved the Lost Nobles incident, but found more clues since then.


BTW, volume 8-C's cover will be Miriam Poqou.

http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/newr...4-04-869263-2/

I'mm starting to think that it's time for the ghost girl's real identity to be revealed then. We'll see.

[Cosmic Eagle]

FINALLY, It's Miriam's turn on the cover


https://twitter.com/kawakamiminoru/s...06315990593536