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Von Himmel · 2013-06-06, 23:15

Yamato: He is mine!

I..I what?

that one line seriously made me forget all those romantic moments between hibiki and io

The Green One · 2013-06-07, 00:32

It's saddening to me to think I am in the minority of thinking that Hibiki's heroics today for Io were rather heartwarming. Even if they were cheesy. This kind of cheesy I can enjoy. Incoming Yandere Yamato towards Hibiki however....

FlareKnight · 2013-06-07, 00:40

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Okay I liked it. I am so sick of sacrifice used as a plot device that I loved that this series rejected it.

Yeah, I agree with you here. Nice to see sacrifice being given the boot every now and then. With Yamato it's all sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice. Just glad Hibiki managed to give him the middle finger on that line of thought and gives everything he has to try and save Io.

Maybe cheesy, but I really don't care. Io needed some saving and I'm just glad there was some. A reckless move to do it, but pretty darn satisfying all things considered. Went into this episode hoping there would be a way to save her while having a bad feeling about it. Just glad things worked out.

p-kun · 2013-06-07, 01:28

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Originally Posted by The Green One

It's saddening to me to think I am in the minority of thinking that Hibiki's heroics today for Io were rather heartwarming. Even if they were cheesy. This kind of cheesy I can enjoy. Incoming Yandere Yamato towards Hibiki however....

I actually liked it a bit. I thought it was fitting that Hibiki was pursuing this "option" that Yamato dismissed without trying, contrasting their ideologies as described by Alcor in the previous episode. Unfortunately, the dialogue was nonsensical though. So, Io's parents were suddenly treated as dead, even though in the anime they were only missing. Plus Io didn't want to be saved because she's weak, I mean what? It was pointless drama. But the atmosphere was good thanks to the insert song. The dialogues could be better, much better.

Puu · 2013-06-07, 01:32

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Originally Posted by p-kun

So, Io's parents were suddenly treated as dead, even though in the anime they were only missing. Plus Io didn't want to be saved because she's weak, I mean what? It was pointless drama. But the atmosphere was good thanks to the insert song. The dialogues could be better, much better.

Wasn't the surrounding area eaten up by the void though? So Io's parents were pretty much as good as dead. Or just non-existent anymore :c

FlareKnight · 2013-06-07, 01:34

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Originally Posted by p-kun

I actually liked it a bit. I thought it was fitting that Hibiki was pursuing this "option" that Yamato dismissed without trying, contrasting their ideologies as described by Alcor in the previous episode. Unfortunately, the dialogue was nonsensical though. So, Io's parents were suddenly treated as dead, even though in the anime they were only missing. Plus Io didn't want to be saved because she's weak, I mean what? It was pointless drama. But the atmosphere was good thanks to the insert song. The dialogues could be better, much better.

Well I didn't have a problem with the parents thing. The world is literally disappearing around them, I'd probably assume everyone I know is dead too at that point.

The Green One · 2013-06-07, 01:38

98% of the known world has been wiped out of existence and most of the rest is a charred gutted ruin. It's a fairly safe assumption they're dead. It might of been marginally easier on Io if she at least knew what happened to them, dead or alive. The not knowing is clearly eating her alive inside.

Io outright said during the later half of the episode she wanted to live. But she had been told that unless she resigned herself to death and willingly let herself die in the name of the cause the world would be destroyed anyway. She felt trapped and helpless so she fell into despair.

It was Hibiki telling her loud and clear that he valued her existence and he valued her as well, did she start to respond and rouse her consciousness which by all rights should of been shredded beyond repair. She found her courage to go on when she was told it was ok to feel weak in a situation like this as it's a normal response but that she could draw on others she was close to for strength like everyone else was doing.

Yes the same tired "Power of Friendship" speech we've heard 10 trillion times before, but in a dark setting like this it was more moving.

p-kun · 2013-06-07, 03:06

All three protagonists are from Tokyo. Tokyo is protected from void because the Tokyo Tower barrier is still intact. Not to say that their parents are safe from other things such as demons, accidents, etc, but their parents are 100% safe from the void.

kuromitsu · 2013-06-07, 03:10

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Originally Posted by The Green One

It's saddening to me to think I am in the minority of thinking that Hibiki's heroics today for Io were rather heartwarming. Even if they were cheesy. This kind of cheesy I can enjoy.

I also liked it, for the same reasons others mentioned. Yes, it was unsubtle and clichéd, but it was still heartwarming, considering the setting and the characters.

Shadow5YA · 2013-06-07, 06:50

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Originally Posted by kuromitsu

I also liked it, for the same reasons others mentioned. Yes, it was unsubtle and clichéd, but it was still heartwarming, considering the setting and the characters.

This is where I disagree.

I feel that not enough time was spent towards developing character relationships to warrant Io and Hibiki's reunion being Okada/KEY level dramatic.

kuromitsu · 2013-06-07, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

This is where I disagree.

I feel that not enough time was spent towards developing character relationships to warrant Io and Hibiki's reunion being Okada/KEY level dramatic.

I'm not bothered by that. To be honest, I never expected stellar character/relationship development from this anime, so I just assume whatever they want me to assume, and roll with it. Plus, the main reason why I watch it is the Io-Hibiki-Daichi BFF trio, so I take everything I can get. :3

(And I didn't think it was that dramatic, anyway... Especially considering that she was about to die and he saved her life, which is a dramatic situation by default.)

eiyuu99 · 2013-06-07, 09:00

The Hibiki x Io shippers will be glad.

kuromitsu · 2013-06-07, 09:19

Does anyone actually ship het in this fandom?

(FWIW if I had to choose a favorite pairing, my choice would be Daichi x Hibiki. Even though it's not getting teased a lot lately.)

Libros · 2013-06-07, 10:30

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Originally Posted by p-kun

I actually liked it a bit. I thought it was fitting that Hibiki was pursuing this "option" that Yamato dismissed without trying, contrasting their ideologies as described by Alcor in the previous episode. Unfortunately, the dialogue was nonsensical though. So, Io's parents were suddenly treated as dead, even though in the anime they were only missing. Plus Io didn't want to be saved because she's weak, I mean what? It was pointless drama. But the atmosphere was good thanks to the insert song. The dialogues could be better, much better.

Actually, in the game, I believe on Tuesday when there's an optional boss you can go to a scene with Io where her mother dies. In case I got the date wrong here's a rundown of what basically happens: In game MC(Aka Hibiki) finds Io treating injured people alongside Jp's medics, soon after he arrives someone is rushed in, this person is her mother. One of the people that brought her in, tells Io that her mother is in critical condition, she(Io's mother) dies soon after. As for her dad, I have no idea.

Kirarakim · 2013-06-07, 10:40

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Originally Posted by kuromitsu

Does anyone actually ship het in this fandom?

(FWIW if I had to choose a favorite pairing, my choice would be Daichi x Hibiki. Even though it's not getting teased a lot lately.)

I ship Daichi and Io. I kind of like the dynamic of the best friends of the protagonist getting together (such as Ron and Hermione in Harry Potter).

I don't think the show is leaning towards that though.

As for Hibiki well I kind of like Alcor/Hibiki/Yamato.

Although in truth I am not sure if really ship them romantically or just like that relationship/interaction best. I enjoy the innuendo though.

Blaat · 2013-06-07, 10:49

Wait I'm not supposed to het ship in this series?

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Originally Posted by Kirarakim

I ship Daichi and Io. I kind of like the dynamic of the best friends of the protagonist getting together (such as Ron and Hermione in Harry Potter).

Same here, sadly enough I don't think this type of pairing is common in anime/manga in fact it never seem to happen at all. Every one gets paired up with the main character.

FlareKnight · 2013-06-07, 11:16

Yeah, I wouldn't mind pulling for DaichixIo, but I just can't see it happening. The MC gets all, that's just how it works

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ookamigirl · 2013-06-07, 11:28

Things are looking pretty bleak.
Nitta as a sacrifice didn't get Hibiki's approval.
It was nice watching the fight with Mizar.
Hibiki's inability to let Nitta go was admirable.
Guess he still hasn't gotten used to losing people..

Blizzard · 2013-06-07, 11:43

Hibiki's insistence to help Io even when she's supposedly already dead and gone beyond saving and his refusal to kill or even fight Lugh kills dozens of JPs summoners this week.

Yamato's insistence to have Hibiki at the most protected position away from the front lines when he's emotionally compromised from Keita kills dozens of JPs summoners in episode 4.

I really like it when an anime draws parallels like that though I'm not sure what to think of how Io's rescue was presented as purely righteous and heartwarming? Here's hoping someone will call Hibiki out on the sacrifices he caused trying to save a single personal friend and not even Japan or humanity. My vote is for Alcor. His reasons are purer and more emotionally driven than Yamato but the context is actually worse. One of them can shoulder but not accept and the other can accept but not shoulder.

Dengar · 2013-06-07, 12:03

I'll leave the matter of Hibiki choosing Io over a bunch of faceless people alone since such issues are complicated and messy.

I like how it ended. And it also shows that this losing streak of the death clips being unoverturnable is finally over.

2013-06-06, 23:15	Link #921
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	Yamato: He is mine! I..I what? that one line seriously made me forget all those romantic moments between hibiki and io __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2013-06-07, 11:16	Link #937
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Yeah, I wouldn't mind pulling for DaichixIo, but I just can't see it happening. The MC gets all, that's just how it works . __________________ Anime-Evo

2013-06-07, 11:28	Link #938
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Things are looking pretty bleak. Nitta as a sacrifice didn't get Hibiki's approval. It was nice watching the fight with Mizar. Hibiki's inability to let Nitta go was admirable. Guess he still hasn't gotten used to losing people.. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2013-06-07, 00:32	Link #922
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	It's saddening to me to think I am in the minority of thinking that Hibiki's heroics today for Io were rather heartwarming. Even if they were cheesy. This kind of cheesy I can enjoy. Incoming Yandere Yamato towards Hibiki however....

2013-06-07, 01:38	Link #927
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	98% of the known world has been wiped out of existence and most of the rest is a charred gutted ruin. It's a fairly safe assumption they're dead. It might of been marginally easier on Io if she at least knew what happened to them, dead or alive. The not knowing is clearly eating her alive inside. Io outright said during the later half of the episode she wanted to live. But she had been told that unless she resigned herself to death and willingly let herself die in the name of the cause the world would be destroyed anyway. She felt trapped and helpless so she fell into despair. It was Hibiki telling her loud and clear that he valued her existence and he valued her as well, did she start to respond and rouse her consciousness which by all rights should of been shredded beyond repair. She found her courage to go on when she was told it was ok to feel weak in a situation like this as it's a normal response but that she could draw on others she was close to for strength like everyone else was doing. Yes the same tired "Power of Friendship" speech we've heard 10 trillion times before, but in a dark setting like this it was more moving.

2013-06-07, 03:06	Link #928
p-kun Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	All three protagonists are from Tokyo. Tokyo is protected from void because the Tokyo Tower barrier is still intact. Not to say that their parents are safe from other things such as demons, accidents, etc, but their parents are 100% safe from the void.

2013-06-07, 09:00	Link #932
eiyuu99 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	The Hibiki x Io shippers will be glad.

2013-06-07, 09:19	Link #933
kuromitsu Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	Does anyone actually ship het in this fandom? (FWIW if I had to choose a favorite pairing, my choice would be Daichi x Hibiki. Even though it's not getting teased a lot lately.)

2013-06-07, 11:43	Link #939
Blizzard KIRABOSHI☆!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 32	Hibiki's insistence to help Io even when she's supposedly already dead and gone beyond saving and his refusal to kill or even fight Lugh kills dozens of JPs summoners this week. Yamato's insistence to have Hibiki at the most protected position away from the front lines when he's emotionally compromised from Keita kills dozens of JPs summoners in episode 4. I really like it when an anime draws parallels like that though I'm not sure what to think of how Io's rescue was presented as purely righteous and heartwarming? Here's hoping someone will call Hibiki out on the sacrifices he caused trying to save a single personal friend and not even Japan or humanity. My vote is for Alcor. His reasons are purer and more emotionally driven than Yamato but the context is actually worse. One of them can shoulder but not accept and the other can accept but not shoulder.

2013-06-07, 12:03	Link #940
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	I'll leave the matter of Hibiki choosing Io over a bunch of faceless people alone since such issues are complicated and messy. I like how it ended. And it also shows that this losing streak of the death clips being unoverturnable is finally over.