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The relationships vary from admiration to friendship to love. What really interests me is that each relationship seems to have an under lining reason for coming about. When I watched the first show I got the feeling that being a seour was like a popularity contest and certainly when you meet the first two petite seours you get the idea, but as the shows progress you start to realize that it's much more than that. The older sisters really care about there petite seours and are doing their very best to help them grow and mature into young adults. In the same vane each of the relationships is different because of each girls personallity and each girl having different needs. I personally find the whole thing fascinating.
For me that's what makes this such a great show. |
2004-04-09, 17:55 | Link #23 | |
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Someone else mentioned Koko wa Green wood. Rumors have it that viz has licensed the manga. manga about boys in all boy school are not that hard to find in yaoi genre ^^; anime wise: Kaze to ki no uta koko wa greenwood Natsu e no Tobira (doorway into summer) going back to girls , has anyone seen Brother dear Brother? it predates Maria-sama by about 25 or so years and was made into 39 episode anime in early 1990's . Similar concept about girls with strong feelings for other girls set in a sorority type setting. The difference is that the characters are not all that loveable as Maria-sama. They have ISSUES and some could benefit from some psychiatric counselling but I find it a very interesting and complex relationship and character driven story that crosses the friendshipg-shoujo ai line. |
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2004-04-09, 18:03 | Link #24 |
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Yoshino/Rei
Am I the only one here that thinks that these two have something going on more than just familial love? dude come on. Did you see the feeling of anguish on Yoshino's face when whatsherface was clinging onto Rei's arm in ep 12?
There's just a bit more than just them caring for each other in a platonic way. I don't think that all the girls are lesbians or in love with each other but certain relationships imho do come off more than just platonic or familial love. |
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Just my opinion. Mercury. |
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2004-04-09, 22:44 | Link #27 |
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I think Yoshino is so upset because Rei is basically the center of her personal universe. Like MercuryKnight said, Yoshino's had to take a lot of time off from school because of her illness and so don't have many friends apart from Rei. So Rei has been Yoshino's best friend, confidant, play mate, etc all rolled into one. On the other hand, from all appearances Rei seems to be a very popular member of Lilian, probably from kindergarden/primary school. I think in more private moments, Yoshino sometimes wonders just how little she has to offer Rei (given her medical condition) to make Rei want to stay her friend, especially compared to all the fans who so clearly adore and admire Rei. So basically the whole yellow rose date played right into Yoshino's worst fears, and she reacted initially with jealousy at the thought of Rei spending time with someone else, and later on with anguish at the thought that she's replacable in Rei's heart, when Rei reacted so kindly at Tanuma Chisato's attempts to be more intimate.
In my personal experience, it's not that unusal to see best friends become very possessive of each other's time and company. Perhaps they're not as jealous as Yoshino, but then again they haven't been through what Yoshino has. Last edited by atua; 2004-04-09 at 23:13. |
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And the lesbian thing... Please, stop seeing lesbians at every corners. Apart maybe the Sei x Shiori episode, the relations in the serie are mainly sexless and more a question of mutual respect and strong friendship. Well, I think ^^. |
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2004-04-10, 11:36 | Link #32 | |
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To go outside of the story for just a moment. I would suggest that though there doesn't seem to be any current yuri relationships in the story, I would say that Sei and her Grand Soeur had such a relationship after the Sei x Shiori episode and that Sei might also have be envolved with Youko at one time though that is more of a guess. Just stirring the pot Mercury |
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P.S. Nice to see a fellow Canadian taking part in the discussion. Hopefully there are more Maria-sama fans among us. |
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I think of Rei as as being almost motherly to Yoshino, Loving her and protecting her from the world and Yoshino as being the only child who suddenly sees her mom with a new baby. |
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i believe that love does not always have to concern physical contact. though if so then isn't that consider being normal friends or being best friends. if best friend replace love then yuri or shoujo-ai does not exist. so no matter how close two girls are they are still consider friends until physical or intimate contact is present. if two girls are shopping together are you able to tell if they are lovers or friends? i don't know. actually i don't even know what the heck i am saying. so if you don't understand what i'm saying then don't worrie it's not you it's me. i am not completely sure about yoshino's feelings toward rei since the part where she went to spy on rei on her date after seeing what happen she just decided to forget about it and went shopping. though for rei it's different. it's really hard to believe that someone about the same age as the other can have motherly feeling for that person. loving someone and wanting to protect them...iono maybe my reaction is so strong because i feel like rei is somewhat like me but... hehe i am putting too much thought into this. no matter what you say or do it's still just an anime. still i need something to occupy me until season two comes out or else i'll eventually forget about marmite and i don't want that to happen. |
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Also I think you can have other friends and love them too, but physical love probably doesn't come into it. If I see two girls out shopping together, no I can tell if they are just friends, whether the love each other, and I definitely won't be able to tell if the have a physical relationship and anything that I said to the contrary would be purely conjecture on my part. Quote:
I think quite possible seeing Rei with on the date may have been so painful for her that she couldn't watch any longer, but I doubt it. More likely she just realized how foolish she was being and moved on. Now about Rei being motherly. Personally I think it's obvious, first of all age has nothing to do with it. I've seen a 10 year old mother a bird or small animal that's sick. Rei is what 16 or 17 she is certainly old enough to feel those feelings. But I think in the 4th and 5th episodes there are many signs of that. Her carrying Yoshino's bag, wanting to go to the doctor's with her, and seeing her home safely at night. I personally see those as motherly things. Once again these things are open to the interpretation of the watcher and maybe I see them differently then others because I'm a parent and have been for 20 years. Quote:
Maybe I'm putting to much thought into this as well, but I'm having fun, so I will continue. And lastly I Love this show and I can't wait for the second season. I won't forget about marmite. |
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