2007-08-28, 02:47 | Link #1381 |
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What? Reference is to Chrono's bit on the effects of Lost Logia/dimensional dislocation in the first season. I'd think the stakes on the Cradle are way higher since it's a complete artifact and looks to be a proper weapon instead of just a tool.
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2007-08-28, 05:05 | Link #1382 | |
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Besides, Jail has these Jewel Seeds, but it didn't seem to be of any worth to him other than to be reverse-engineered to make his...'lousy drones' better a little..
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2007-08-28, 05:41 | Link #1383 | ||
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These jewel seeds were microchip-sized, though. Logically they're be far less powerfull. Besides, Relics seem far more powerfull, as only one already has the abillity to destroy worlds, or so Fate said. |
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2007-08-28, 06:27 | Link #1384 |
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Ever since they started using the term 'Relic' I've been confused over whether they're using the term generally, as an alternative phrase for 'Lost Logia', to refer to a specific subclass of objects within Lost Logia, or something else. Is there an official word on what exactly it means? I don't recall the characters ever being particularly helpful but I might have just not been paying attention.
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2007-08-28, 06:35 | Link #1385 | |
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To make it simple: Lost Logia = Powerfull technollogy or artefacts comming from now destroyed worlds. Relics, Jewel Seeds and Yami no Sho are all Lost Logia. |
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2007-08-28, 07:03 | Link #1386 | |
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2007-08-28, 08:16 | Link #1387 | |
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Anyway... -looks at the current discussion.- I have to agree with arkhangelsk about some points, Even though a good number of them are Aerial/Sky Mages. The Cradle does have it's weaknesses, it's not able to handle from what I can see from the episodes of multiple small targets that are flying around separately thus the defensive beams do not hit all of them. Though as Yuuno had conviently explained. The Cradle's true power will be reached because of the moons, however the Arc~En~Ciel Cannon on any of the TSAB warships will be able to do quite a bit of damage. And Hayate-chan who is a SS-Rank Aerial/Sky Mage is handling both offensive and strategics at the same time, as well as part of the time trying to help the other Aerial/Sky Mages from being killed during the whole battle. Just like the end of Episode 22, everyone is getting tired except a few characters. Signum's battle with Zest was proof that some members had it a bit easier than others. I'm still worried about one particular red knight with an iron hammer right now. |
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2007-08-28, 09:37 | Link #1388 | |
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2007-08-28, 11:01 | Link #1390 | |
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So yeah, it's a Lost Logia over 300 years old at least.
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2007-08-28, 19:53 | Link #1393 |
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Okay from what I can guess, this ancient Belkan weapon is able to use Relics when they are combined with a 'Holy Emperor' or some vessel to help power it, the fact this Cradle is able to use a human as a battery of sorts, makes me think that somewhere in the past some idiot guy was obsessed enough to try to use this because of the legendary myth of Al Hazard.
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2007-08-28, 22:40 | Link #1394 |
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In the raws maybe. Some of us are stuck reading other people's explanations. At any rate this can only hurt my estimation of Ancient Belkan color-coordination strategies.
Seriously, I hope this thing was built before the Book, because as cliche as black armor with gold/silver trim is, it looks a hell of a lot cooler than yellow and purple hull plating. And I'd like to think they learned from their mistakes. That WOULD explain why they buried the thing and forgot about it. Would you want your interdimensional flagship, symbol of your culture to foreign worlds, to look that hideous? Scaglietti's obviously the only one crazy enough to actually want the thing. That or he wanted a ship that'd match his eye/hair color. |
2007-08-28, 23:04 | Link #1395 | |
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Belka did not create the Cradle. It was already a Lost Logia back in their times, which meant that unless there was a more Ancient Belka than Ancient Belka, Belka, or more precisely Saint King merely exploited it. The usage of Cradle is associated to Ancient Belka/Saint King, but its origin is not. 300 years ago was before the times of TSAB. It shouldn't be strange that people then used weapons of lost civilizations as weapons.
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2007-08-29, 00:20 | Link #1398 |
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Bah, so much for oppositional fact-finding. I guess we can try this UK-style, 'cooperate' and stuff. I guess I was figuring Alhazred because the relics remind me of jewel seeds and the cradle is built around the things (maybe?), but like I was saying I mostly just read stuff on blogs.
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2007-08-29, 00:24 | Link #1399 | |
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As for Relics, we still don't know what they are, other than there being the existence of over 75 Relics minimum, the term Relic Weapon were cited so for Lutecia/Zest, and that apparently Relic #11 can restore 'that person.' Fate/Shari clearly stated that Relics are unorthodox as far as crystallized based energies go, so they're not exactly all the same with Jewel Seeds.
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