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[aka Providence]

er, well, here's the idea i had, since there really is nothing for me to do right now...

it's also set in a steampunk-ish world, which follows the main character -- most likely young (below 20 years old), who had summoned and made a pact with a demon. the demon here is rather ambiguous, as he/she/it has no real sense of good and evil. anyway, the reason for summoning the demon was because the main character is a caught between a power struggle within his family due to an inheritance. his older brother had sent people to kill him, and in a desperate attempt of survival, summoned the demon within himself.

in a nutshell, the main character and the demon share one body, though there's not much problem with regards to a split personality due to the fact that they're quite alike in their actions.

aside from steampunk, i had hoped in writing to make this splatterpunk as well, which may have been one of the reasons i had little time to work on this due to adding moe elements here. anyway, the main plot here is the main character's own plan to seize power, first within his family, and much later on to bigger things.

one of the main problems i see on my idea is that it reminds me of death note and code geass after modifying it for this suggestion.

[chibamonster]

@derelict88: I love that you have a wacom tablet with your laptop during a production meeting. It reminds me of when I would doodle on my tests in school. One time I was correcting my friends test in like 4th grade but the teacher was taking too long so he got not just a grade, but a giant picture of captain america on his multiple choice test as well.

@ aka Providence: of course you can throw an idea out . Please do. I'd love to hear your idea. Each new idea can be added into the story as tenken talked about or even take over the story. Better hurry though, the steam punk world is selling me more and more by the minute. It is like I am involuntarily imagining pieces of the world construction as well as thinking about what feel I'd like it to have even though I originally planned on staying kind of detached until it was time to choose. Heh, oops. For instance, I have been thinking up I did a search and came up with this pages photos of more rural asia to contrast with the heavy machinery the world will have. Also I've been looking at chinese and japanese architecture and imagining its themes put over giant ships. I'm looking at different galleries with the firefox Piclens plugin which is a party by itself in a minority report sort of way. Then I am imagining mythical statues and... well you get the idea.

And tenken627, that is actually a pretty cool idea. It might just be an example of what is possible but it really made me think. It has a real bittersweet feel to it.

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Edit: Interesting idea Providence. I have never heard of splatterpunk before. After reading the wiki page it seems shocking to say the least. The morally ambiguous demon reminds me of Migi from the manga Paracyte, an alien that lives in the main characters hand. Paracyte was really cool with how it addressed human morality from the point of view of creatures not human, not to mention migi was cute. It also reminds me of D's hand from vampire hunter D. Not sure why both paracytes live in their hands though. The story sounds like a quest for revenge ala Counte of Monte Cristo but with how dark it is I get the feeling the survivor count at the end of the story would hang somewhere around 1 possibly not including the main character. Sort of like Hamlet which has a giant blood bath at the end of it. Definite dark seinen feel to it. Lots of story potential for examining the really dark side of human emotions. I can see why you need black magic mana .

[aka Providence]

Originally Posted by chibamonster

@ aka Providence: of course you can throw an idea out . Please do. I'd love to hear your idea. Each new idea can be added into the story as tenken talked about or even take over the story. Better hurry though, the steam punk world is selling me more and more by the minute. It is like I am involuntarily imagining pieces of the world construction as well as thinking about what feel I'd like it to have even though I originally planned on staying kind of detached until it was time to choose. Heh, oops. For instance, I have been thinking up I did a search and came up with this pages photos of more rural asia to contrast with the heavy machinery the world will have. Also I've been looking at chinese and japanese architecture and imagining its themes put over giant ships. Then I am imagining mythical statues and... well you get the idea.

^points to my previous post*. well, the post was half the story idea, as i got the other half; an old outline in paper.

[tenken627]

Originally Posted by chibamonster

And tenken627, that is actually a pretty cool idea. It might just be an example of what is possible but it really made me think. It has a real bittersweet feel to it.

It's not my idea, it's actually yours and the people who have posted in this thread. Once the story has some sort of base to it, new ideas can be attached or thought of from there. Then you can decide which idea is workable or not.

For example, using the sample storyline from above, we could use mythological beings (I forgot whose idea that was. edit - Tempest35's idea) as the creators of the main characters, they could possibly be even demi-gods. These demi-gods could be the actual real rulers of the different civilizations in this steampunk world. Maybe each civilization has different mythological beings as their rulers and their armies would be a mix of steam robotics/engineering and mythical creatures (minotaurs that are half machine, maybe?), as well as enhanced normal fighters (high tech knights, rune covered beserkers, etc.). The main characters would be another experimental weapon that these mythical rulers have created.

Using Fenrir_Valindri's ideas, the main characters could be the adopted children of someone near the royal court. Close enough to befriend someone in the royal family. The death of their friend at the betrayal of Atlantis could very well be the reason why the main characters are sucked into the war in the first place.

You could even have the special abilities of the main character to be demon summoning/possession using aka Providence's ideas. By letting a demon possess their bodies for certain times, the main characters could be especially powerful, and the idea will still work with the mythological beings storyline (as well as the inevitable death storyline).

This might be making it too complicated, but you get the gist.

Edit: After looking back at all of this ^^^, all I have to say is Wow, that's a lot of stuff mixed up into one. At least it would be really original .

[rainbow_rena]

Originally Posted by tenken627

Well, you can use elements from each of those ideas (except #2) for the basis of a story right there.

Two teenage kids (one of them may or may not be Kairin) living in a steampunk world discover that they have extraordinary abilities. After being sucked into war, where they see that all is not black and white or good and evil, they realize that their bodies have a sickness and that they are in fact dying. After traveling around this steampunk world to search for answers on why they are dying (with adventures on the way), they discover that the reason why they have special abilities and why their bodies are deteriorating is because they are not human at all, they were actually created as weapons. With only a limited lifespan left, they decide that they must stop their creators from creating more weapons like themselves/conquering the world/destroying humanity/or something else.

I'm not saying that this is the story to use, but I'm just showing how one could look if you put those ideas together.

had a quicj look through this thread and i like the idea of combining all the ideas, up here^^

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

I like the idea of (as Fenrir put it) a cast of characters that get equal spotlight. In this way we have more characters personalitys to tweak. Defferent people getting infolved for differn't reasons. In this way we can combine the differn't ideas somewhat. Somebody was the experament with phychic powers, Somebody was the hacker that got into deep, another person was a bodygaurd of some top officail now gaurding his daughter who could be the strong female role and have a lot of infulence with her 'group' whether magical,magic knight etc
Whow so many ideas. Good luck Chibimonster

[Enara]

where did the daughter part come from? I do like the odd ball group. What if they all get put on a different world from there own world. all of the people have a language barer and so on.

the experament with phychic power's

A hacker

A body gaurd gaurding A dangers girl who is thought to be evil.

the dangers girl who breaks the language barrier and has the infulence in the grope but is dieing.

this is what I though would be cool if we put all the Idea's together.

[aka Providence]

Originally Posted by tenken627

Two teenage kids (one of them may or may not be Kairin) living in a steampunk world discover that they have extraordinary abilities. After being sucked into war, where they see that all is not black and white or good and evil, they realize that their bodies have a sickness and that they are in fact dying. After traveling around this steampunk world to search for answers on why they are dying (with adventures on the way), they discover that the reason why they have special abilities and why their bodies are deteriorating is because they are not human at all, they were actually created as weapons. With only a limited lifespan left, they decide that they must stop their creators from creating more weapons like themselves/conquering the world/destroying humanity/or something else.

an idea for the idea above:

instead of a terminal illness, how about this -- slowly as time passes they lose some (or a lot) of the human traits they were born with. for example, soon they no longer need to rest or eat food; or at least they can survive in harsh environments with litte to no outside support. on the other hand, they become more sensitive to certain things, such as sight and sound, which becomes more of a problem when they're around people. they were born human, but sometime after their birth they were developed as living weapons; and as they grow older they get a better understanding on the situation around them.

[chibamonster]

Okay, here is what we are going to do. The world background is going to be the Steam Punk crossed with ancient civilizations revamped to be even more awesome. So there are giant machines, empires battling, flying ships, most people fight with swords, and the like. I like Fenrir's idea of an untamed natural world as well so I think other worldly creatures, dragons or giant insects, dinosaur like creatures, giant birds or whatever. Exaggerating the natural worlds beauty and power to match the grandiose civilizations would be a fun contrast I think. The background story may be epic, but the main story does not need to follow a "fate of the world rests on your shoulders chosen one" plot although it certainly could.

I also like the idea of mixing pieces of the story together and think we should do that. We need to find a solid combination. Most of the ideas can be included by adding attributes to the characters. A strong female hacker/steampunk mechanic, maybe a knight with a demon inside who wants to get revenge, dangerous psychic girl or boy who is slowly dying/becoming inhuman, and so on. I like the idea of strong leading females too. We need one who does combat .

I like the back stories that have been put together. I am going to rifle through them a bit to see what we have so far as there have been a bunch that I like. I am thinking we might want to use Joseph Campbell's monomyth to make the main character's plot easier to handle, but it is not a necessity. I am also thinking of hijacking pieces of a plot from stories that we enjoy.

Spoiler for Introduction I imagined:

There is one thing I thought would be interesting. I want to introduce the world as as magical from the beginning, with almost a child like curiosity about how it all works. For some reason the innocence of children seeing something for the first time makes me feel more impressed by it myself in a magical world, in the same way that watching a child staring at a butterfly is magical.

Here is what I imagined: 2 very young children from a small rural village; an adventurous boy and a girl worried she is going to get in trouble, climbing a hill to see something above the view of the forest they live in. They are supposed to be inside, exactly to hide from the thing they are headed to see, and their parents would be terrified if they knew the kids had left. The girl is very worried and only keeps moving at the encouragement of the boy. When they reach the top of the hill the girl cannot see anything unusual. The boy points up above them and she sees a giant flying battle ship headed off to war floating like a cloud through the sky with reinforcements that cast shadows across the forest. The boy says that some day he wants to fly. The girl tells him he is stupid. The boy laughs and then runs off making noises like the ship. Skip forward to the girl as a gifted mechanic fixing some old agricultural gear at her masters instructions and real plot begins...

Just an idea I had that I really liked.

[derelict88]

Fenrir_valindri
I kinda like in your ideas mate. It does seem to fit along with what I had in mind. But the scope is kinda big tho. There is a fine line where originality are in question especially most pronouce when following your line of thought. When you have steampunk, magic and knights put together that might ultimately be compared with Battle Chasers by Mad. If you have robots and dragons than it might look like 5 star stories.

Unless there is a way to separate us from 'that' manga/comic than I see there might be a conflict of interest in the near future. Which is why I felt prudent for us to stick with the lay people and ignore the mega influential people of that world. Just like us... no good no evil to foreshadow our every move. Simplicity is the name of the game.

My two cents... but I will go with the flow if there is a general consensus.

Okay, here is what we are going to do. The world background is going to be the Steam Punk crossed with ancient civilizations revamped to be even more awesome. So there are giant machines, empires battling, flying ships, most people fight with swords, and the like. I like Fenrir's idea of an untamed natural world as well so I think other worldly creatures, dragons or giant insects, dinosaur like creatures, giant birds or whatever. Exaggerating the natural worlds beauty and power to match the grandiose civilizations would be a fun contrast I think. The background story may be epic, but the main story does not need to follow a "fate of the world rests on your shoulders chosen one" plot although it certainly could.

Just make sure it doesnt come out all Last Exile than we are on a safe ground.

[aka Providence]

Originally Posted by chibamonster

Okay, here is what we are going to do. The world background is going to be the Steam Punk crossed with ancient civilizations revamped to be even more awesome. So there are giant machines, empires battling, flying ships, most people fight with swords, and the like. I like Fenrir's idea of an untamed natural world as well so I think other worldly creatures, dragons or giant insects, dinosaur like creatures, giant birds or whatever. Exaggerating the natural worlds beauty and power to match the grandiose civilizations would be a fun contrast I think. The background story may be epic, but the main story does not need to follow a "fate of the world rests on your shoulders chosen one" plot although it certainly could.

kinda reminds me of Final Fantasy Tactics. one thing i suggest that might add extra style to the world would be to use some 'real-world' references here and there. nothing too obvious, of course, for example: calling somebody a 'walking nuclear bomb' when there's not knowledge on what a nuke really is, that sort of thing.

[chibamonster]

I think as long as we have a cohesive plot from the beginning and consistent characters we will be safe from ending up like Last Exile. The animation was fantastic but I never really latched onto any of the characters except maybe Al and that Goat doll that made funny noises. I liked the boy from the guild who integrated into the ship, but once he was brainwashed things got wierd and it was like a crazy commentary about aristocratic society. Parts of the show were very enjoyable for me even though it took me quite a while to get through the series. I actually really liked the introduction music, feel, and animation. Maestro Delphine's rose torture and Alex's revenge was pretty cool for me.

[derelict88]

Originally Posted by chibamonster

I think as long as we have a cohesive plot from the beginning and consistent characters we will be safe from ending up like Last Exile. The animation was fantastic but I never really latched onto any of the characters except maybe Al and that Goat doll that made funny noises. I liked the boy from the guild who integrated into the ship, but once he was brainwashed things got wierd and it was like a crazy commentary about aristocratic society. Parts of the show were very enjoyable for me even though it took me quite a while to get through the series. I actually really liked the introduction music, feel, and animation. Maestro Delphine's rose torture and Alex's revenge was pretty cool for me.

You have just sum up everything and anything to do with Gonzo... Now that the creative minds left that animation company they have been churning out crap and rubbish lately. Worst animation I have seen thus far is Bakuretsu Tenshi. I expected they be fantastic after the acquisition of Digimation but Ohhh nooosss...

the only one that I can depend on is still Production I.G.

Edit: BTW go watch 5 Centimeters Per Second. You should like it.

[Enara]

I can't help it but I love the nuclear bomb person some one with so much power they just are like a bomb. say the chibaMonster Idea of the little girl meat's the "bomb" person. this is so much fun!!!

[derelict88]

Originally Posted by Enara

I can't help it but I love the nuclear bomb person some one with so much power they just are like a bomb. say the chibaMonster Idea of the little girl meat's the "bomb" person. this is so much fun!!!

...and than we will have Heroes wannabe to content with.


"Save the cheerleader...."

But I degress (yes it is a word based on Spider-man dictionary) and stand corrected.

[aka Providence]

more silly nitpicking: the use of swords could be downplayed here. kinda like it's already an era where the use of swords/close-range weapons is being phased out in favor of rifles and/or technology. of course, some crazy close range weapons would look nice. i've always been in love with the idea of a giant sword-chainsaw hybrid, and while in might not be savvy weapon for one-on-one duels, it has a certain intimidation against cannon fodder.

[denkikoiji]

hey i was working on something of a manga but it never really took off and i ended up not starting it but i still have it so here is mine lol i got 2 different themes:

Ok, well i guess: i would like to do a science fiction, love romance, action, drama, love triangle kinda manga ^_^ ok well im going to do a plot:

Spoiler for theme1:

ok let's see a plot umm i may not be to good at this but i will do my best ^_ ^

possible girl's names: mitoko, Hikari, Akari, Mari, Nemu
possible boy's names: Takeru, Ryo, Jun'ichi, Suginami


theme:
lets start off in japan around the time of now between two family's who live in there own town within the town (cant think of it right now what it is called) and they have meetings between each other and brings along a boy (think of name later) and have him play with the daughter of the other family (think of her name later) and they become friends and end up meeting up every time there family's do business together the children play together and they both have seemed to have allot in common and it turned out the two family's where talking about the two children's future of them getting married when they grow up well there is a old ancient Japaneses legend about a Ailanthus altissima otherwise known as (Tree-of-heaven) as legend goes if you confess under the tree and berry a personal item of the two that they will get one wish together for the two to choose together in the end they both did everything as the legend said to do but they didn't decide on a wish to make and ended up getting separated before they could finish it the girl (think of name latter) and the boy(think of name latter) are getting separated from each other the girl is moving away and they don't want to part and are crying while they see each other off and make a promise to each other that they would marry each other someday and that starts to happen in the next 9 years when they meet up again but he forgot about the promise but she didn't she attempts to try to jog his memory be doing various things but ends up being unsuccessful at her first try now she is going to try again but go at it a different way and he remembers everything now and they just go on right now as friends and eventually they start dating and his cousin comes to town now she was also his friend while he was a child and did lots of things together also and have a good friendship and there are friends of his at school he has 2 other girls who he is friends with and a guy friend during lunch they all hang out on the roof and eat lunch and talk, now one of the girls as a crush on him but is to shy to admit it and has kept it in while he has became good friends with them all well now they are all together at school and they go by as everything goes and hang out and everything now he knows that his old childhood friend likes him and now one of his new friends likes him and sh hasn't found out yet but they go on and she will eventually tell him when the time is right and then its going to start as the love triangle begins ^_^ now they are going to compete with each other for him he will eventually end up with his childhood friend but they are all going to go threw lots of hardships and temptation's along the way and some drama at one point in time ^_^ now once he is with his childhood friend they are going to go on there first date and everything is just going wrong places are closed, cant think of things to do, but eventually they do end up doing something right toured the end of the first date ^^ now they are a couple and they date go do things together and remember the past as it was and they remember about the (Tree-of-heaven) and there wish they never got to make together but they end up w8ting to make it so now they are going to start the finish of there high school days to be continued ^_^ ill think of more but thats just the first part ^_^

and another one combined lol this one more space lol

Spoiler for theme2:

lets start out with we are in the year 2800 and the earth in uninhabitable from a virus thats spread out all over the earth and everyone who survived ended up in a space station and it has gone threw a mist of particles that left behind a substance in the space station it was a box with weird markings on it of some type of markings on it well they are testing it and they put it out into space with a grapple attached to it and they give it an electrical charge and it begins to open and a big light appears and it just swallows up everything in sight and after it was done the space station ends up in a different place like transported to the other side of the galaxy and there are 2 planets around them ones white with green rings around it there is another one it is twice the size of the earth and looks just like it and there can be seen lifeforms in all sorts of technology never seen before flying around well now on the space station they send out a party to inspect the new earth and there are these tow children who sneak on wit them and they are not noticed and they all go down to the new earth as they are calling it now and once it lands they can see it is just like how earth was except for there technology is way more advanced and they all end up going there to live well now everything seems to be going as an normal but out of nowhere something happens the two children have done something they shouldn't have and now have grown to the age of 16 and now they have to live as they are but now the two are going to high school as transfer students and they meet up with the class now the two children where both girls and now they start to meet new people at there school and they end up being friends with 3 of the girls in the class and two of the boys in the class and they hang out and everything and they eat on the top of the school with everyone and talk and such and everyone seems to ave this gadget it seems to be just a flat circle with edges around it and a blue center but once they touch it it begins to change into there desired imitation and it begins to take forum of what it was thought up as and stays like that now everyone has one and they are quite useful with doing all sorts of things like helping you study for example or they can help you cook or do about anything you can imagine right now the girls want to get one for themselves but they are too expensive for them to get so they are now wanting to get some and as they are walking home stumble ah pone a store so they go in and ask the clerk of they have any compersa compacts they are the flat circle blue things i was talking about earlier and she hap pones to have two left but they are very old and asks if that is a problem and the two say no so they take them home but to find out they are different from what everyone els had they are black in the middle instead of blue and wonder why but they sill do what everyone els did and it turners on and they think of the things they want to input to it to change so the first girl thinks of a ring and ends up getting one and the other girl was thinking about earing's and got them and they where different they became real objects instead of illustration and put them on

but thats just a new plot i thunk of lol idk if anyone would like them lol but i tried my best lol

you can use mine if you like them or what ever you would want to pick really lol...

[Fenrir_valindri]

Originally Posted by chibamonster

Okay, here is what we are going to do. The world background is going to be the Steam Punk crossed with ancient civilizations revamped to be even more awesome. So there are giant machines, empires battling, flying ships, most people fight with swords, and the like. I like Fenrir's idea of an untamed natural world as well so I think other worldly creatures, dragons or giant insects, dinosaur like creatures, giant birds or whatever. Exaggerating the natural worlds beauty and power to match the grandiose civilizations would be a fun contrast I think. The background story may be epic, but the main story does not need to follow a "fate of the world rests on your shoulders chosen one" plot although it certainly could.

I agree that this doesn't have to be the "save the world" quest, but it is hard to avoid that route, unless our party (wink) decides to be a neutral faction that plays the middle ground while interacting with the various Empires.

I also like the idea of mixing pieces of the story together and think we should do that. We need to find a solid combination. Most of the ideas can be included by adding attributes to the characters. A strong female hacker/steampunk mechanic, maybe a knight with a demon inside who wants to get revenge, dangerous psychic girl or boy who is slowly dying/becoming inhuman, and so on. I like the idea of strong leading females too. We need one who does combat .

Let me see if I can throw some ideas in here.

For our Strong Female character, having her as the hacker/steampunk mechanic can always be good, she could even use it in a untraditional fashion (a genius of sorts) and actually be a large asset in a fight, even if she wouldn't appear to be one when standing next to the Knight or simliar character. She could be idealistic, but still a practical person.

Her relationship with the Knight could be one of admiration, possibly with romantic ties, but she would be put off by his own ideals, or perhaps his appearance. She often talks to him anyway, trying to understand him more, and maybe even get him to help her with our third character.

Our "steampunk's" relationship with the "walking bomb" could be one of sympathy, and something of a personal goal for her. (She wants to help her) She tries to befriend her, but is having a hard time understanding the feelings of someone as dangerous as our "bomb," and thus turns to the "Knight" for help.

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The Knight with a demon is something I am personally interested in, so let me throw some ideas at it.

I, as well as a few others, have always been interested in the non-traditional roles of certain elements. Instead of something as direct as a "Demon" we could use the "Elements" route and say he channels "Dark" or "Shadow" energy, a much more indirect route then simply something as "evil-in-a-can" as a demon

Of course just because it is "Dark" does not mean it is evil, although that could well be a misconception in the world setting itself, it could be unstable, and thus dangerous to use, hence its reputation.

"Shades of Gray" are a must IMO, and this character could very well be our primary vessal of that in the story.

His relation to steampunk is probably a fond one, but that would be something he wouldn't say outloud. He would appear to aloof to others in the "group" but is actually quite protective of his "comrades."

The Knight's relationship to the "Bomb" could be one of the most important ones in the story, as his own power would allow him to understand the girl better. He would be more openly protective of the "bomb" then any other character, perhaps even acting as a "big-brother" figure of sorts.

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The "walking bomb" character should be female, just to generate more sympathy points, and a kind person to boot. She could be somewhat anti-social due to the nature of her abilities. She would normally have a good wrap on her powers, but if she is forced to use them excessivly she loses control quickly. Just for kicks we could make her a prominent figure in the world (a High-Priestess of immense power)

The "steampunk" girl would be someone that the "bomb" would like, but is too afraid to associate with, due to her own dangerous nature.

If the Knight is a unstable energy user like I mentioned before, she could relate to him. Their may or may not be romantic feelings, but their should be some sort of "close" relationship that develops. This would allow them to interact with each other for character development.

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Of course, we would need more characters then these 3

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I like the back stories that have been put together. I am going to rifle through them a bit to see what we have so far as there have been a bunch that I like. I am thinking we might want to use Joseph Campbell's monomyth to make the main character's plot easier to handle, but it is not a necessity. I am also thinking of hijacking pieces of a plot from stories that we enjoy.

Heh, it could work, but don't be afraid to ask ideas from us.

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Spoiler for Introduction I imagined:

There is one thing I thought would be interesting. I want to introduce the world as as magical from the beginning, with almost a child like curiosity about how it all works. For some reason the innocence of children seeing something for the first time makes me feel more impressed by it myself in a magical world, in the same way that watching a child staring at a butterfly is magical.

Here is what I imagined: 2 very young children from a small rural village; an adventurous boy and a girl worried she is going to get in trouble, climbing a hill to see something above the view of the forest they live in. They are supposed to be inside, exactly to hide from the thing they are headed to see, and their parents would be terrified if they knew the kids had left. The girl is very worried and only keeps moving at the encouragement of the boy. When they reach the top of the hill the girl cannot see anything unusual. The boy points up above them and she sees a giant flying battle ship headed off to war floating like a cloud through the sky with reinforcements that cast shadows across the forest. The boy says that some day he wants to fly. The girl tells him he is stupid. The boy laughs and then runs off making noises like the ship. Skip forward to the girl as a gifted mechanic fixing some old agricultural gear at her masters instructions and real plot begins...

Just an idea I had that I really liked.

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It looks pretty good, to add some drama we could later reveal that the boy died (perhaps relating to the war) so the girl decided to persue his dreams for him.

We could also give some info on the world, perhaps giving a summary of the War so far, the primary players in the world, and perhaps the current situation.

Something like this:

Spoiler for just an idea:

The girl (while fixing the gear) does a summary in her head about the world as it is.

"The War has been going for 25 years now," etc

We can flash to the different countries as she summarizes them, ending with where she lives (most likely the Neutral territory we discussed.)

Then she could see airships once more, headed towards the city for the peace-talks. She grow excited to see the different tech/magic used for the individual nation's ships, and maybe even requests from her Master to go into the city to check them out.

Then the scene could flash to the city, with the skyships unloading their passangers.

We would have a group of Techno-Knights escorting a prominant figure, a panel focusing on one Knight who stands out, our "Dark" Knight who is off to the side, almost appearing as an outcast.

Then we would flash to the other ships, the focus being the "bomb," a High-Priestess with her escort of rune-equipped warriors (perhaps Samurai) with her as the center figure.

That is just an idea to help get ideas flowing.

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Originally Posted by derelict88

Fenrir_valindri
I kinda like in your ideas mate. It does seem to fit along with what I had in mind. But the scope is kinda big tho. There is a fine line where originality are in question especially most pronouce when following your line of thought. When you have steampunk, magic and knights put together that might ultimately be compared with Battle Chasers by Mad. If you have robots and dragons than it might look like 5 star stories.

Bah, gotta dream big!!!
Just because it resembles another story, does not mean the plot and "feel" of the story would be remotely simliar. People mistakenly compare Berserk and Claymore, but they are significantly different stories.

Unless there is a way to separate us from 'that' manga/comic than I see there might be a conflict of interest in the near future. Which is why I felt prudent for us to stick with the lay people and ignore the mega influential people of that world. Just like us... no good no evil to foreshadow our every move. Simplicity is the name of the game.

Simplicity is good, but this is the creation process, and we should lay out some grand ideas to start off

My two cents... but I will go with the flow if there is a general consensus.

Heh, don't be that way, throw some ideas out there.



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Some other ideas.

We should limit what is in the world setting.

No more then 4 real "superpowers" otherwise the world becomes too chaotic, we could have several "minor" or "neutral" powers though.

Samurai(magic)/Roman(divine)/Knight(techno) are favorities of mine, so get my vote for the superpower spots.

The Norse could be a Neutral, or minor faction, but they are definetly a favorite of mine as well.

What Mythological creatures should make it in. Dragons are a must for me, but what sort of Dragons? Eastern, Western, or Both? Wild, Intelligent, Magical, or Primal.

We should also set a number for our "main" cast of characters.

The magical numbers in anime are usually 3, 4, 5, 7

3 is what we have direct ideas for right now, but 5-7 is more along the lines of what I am thinking.

Another thing to keep in mind what are we aiming for?

Is this a world saving mission, a journey for personal gain, a quest for some artifact, or a simple "The Tale of _______" type of story.

[aka Providence]

mm, my two cents on the characters:

i really like the idea of having a female (main?) character as a hacker/mechanic. someone that's strong-willed and practical but not so uber-serious around people. being good with machines doesn't really mean she's good in a fight, but she could hold her own with quick thinking and skill. somehow, i can picture her having glasses, though the one picturing is the part of my brain that thinks of anime.

as for the demon-knight type character i can sense a lot of inner-conflict in this one. that is, to himself (or her) he/she does not see much difference in his actions when compared to the demon, despite his own feelings. in a nutshell, a person who is good deep down inside yet is afraid that in reality he's no different from the evil of the demon kept inside.

the 'walking nuke' is by far my favorite character to think about. i'm not sure about the gender but i see someone who has been considered a weapon for a long time but due to some human interaction has caught some human traits. however, the awkward thing about it is that those human traits have been caught through description, not experience. i'm not saying that the character would be naive and slow, but more like someone who can't ignore things.

that's about it, for my initial thoughts.

[chibamonster]

@denkikoiji: your two plots have a sweet slice of life sort of feel with friendships being very crucial. We could certainly integrate some sort of friendship into the story and children's promises long forgotten. That would be nice. It was a little hard for me to read your post as it was all one long sentence. I tried to pull it into a word editor when I realized it had no periods so I really had to focus to keep my attention from wandering. Just a request that in the future you break it into paragraphs so it does not hurt my head. Thanks .

@aka Providence: I think there certainly can be some heavy cannons and maybe single shot hand held guns but I want them to be heavy, inaccurate, slow loading, strange shaped, and with a lot of recoil. No machine guns or semi automatic. This is so the warfare has to be more up close and personal as the technology for weapons is still under development. I think the mechanic girl needs goggles more than any normal glasses, and drop down lenses to see tiny parts. I also imagine her wearing gloves that are too big, carrying tools on her belt at all times and having a smudge of oil on her cheek.

@Fenrir: I like where you are headed with this. I think there certainly could be 4 factions, although we would probably only see the most influential ones probably the 2 closest to the individual conflict in any sort of detail. We could see representatives at the peace meeting and maybe some of the warriors at other places. Although we really could see all 4. We might have to get suggestions on which ancient civilizations people want to see. I am imagining a "neutral" guild as egyptians for some reason, although I do not know if they would fit into the story at the moment.

As people have been suggesting things I have kind of been putting a story together in my mind which is a lot of fun. The new ideas twist it and turn it a bit. It is funny that Fenrir suggested the boy die, because that is exactly what I had planned for him in the introduction. I like the knight and the bomb idea. I want it switched so the revenge bent elemental knight is a woman and the bomb is a young boy who she has 'rescued' as part of her plot. I want him wounded like missing an arm and an eye and he never gets them back for some reason. I agree there needs to be sympathy for the bomb character and for some reason I jumped to injury instead of female first.

I do not see the characters unified in some 'Save the world mission'. That is too big and there is no game plan for it. I actually imagine them having very different goals. I see the Knight as someone wanting to get revenge and not really as someone concerned with heavy morals. The bomb as someone who has had little experience with human life. And the mechanic as someone who has never been to a big town and is fascinated by the world around her. It might be an interesting contrast if while the mechanic girl was fascinated with the advanced machinery while the bomb character, having seen it all, had never been outside and was fascinated by life and nature.

I think 5-7 people is a good idea with some other minor characters. Another character I want to put forward is the person who trains the mechanic girl to be as good as she is. Her master and possibly Father/Foster parent with a shady past. She needs to learn her skills somewhere. Maybe he left the war embittered and while he used to be a great mechanic for an emperor now lives out his life in the wilderness fixing tractors.

As for goal with the story I am thinking of taking the mechanic girl as the starting character and tear her away from her relaxing life into a world of adventure which becomes a coming of age realization that the world is the same no matter how big the conflict is. Maybe she could learn that having great power or great skill is no where near as important as making good choices no matter how hard they are.