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Old 2011-10-30, 13:38   Link #581
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Damn good episode....Shaga is effin hot, he needs to hit that, especially since she seems to want it anyway.

Still hate Ume though, the Ice queen needs to really put her on her ass just once....
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Old 2011-10-30, 13:54   Link #582
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Don't really think trying to focus on your opponent is a bad idea. Getting sloppy and distracted would lead to a loss you'd think. Got to respect the opponent by taking them seriously. But since this is part comedy suppose no need to really focus on it.

As usual Ume is at the level of me wishing she'd just get arrested already for her random assaults. Suppose it's not shocking for her to go with physical assaults for guys and closing in on more sexual assaults with girls. Kind of sad though that her entire characters is just attacking/kidnapping. Be nice if by the end someone knocked her down a peg.

Ayame was a nice addition. Hilarious that she got her own OP here . But really a fun character and clear how she feels about Satou. Kind of sad that our Ice Witch had to kick Satou in the rear to get him moving. Of course the guy is an average level of dense not getting things. Probably best to have him in fights where he doesn't need to think deeply. Kind of brings me back to the whole Hunting Dogs episode, the guy takes a ridiculous amount of time to get things that should be obvious. Thank god he was coerced to join the club or that might have taken 3 or so episodes.
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Old 2011-10-30, 13:59   Link #583
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Urg, just kill her serioulsy. I can' stand her.


Other than that, great episode. Honestly, fighting scenes in Ben-To are better (for me ) than in Fate Zero. The pace is better. The Beauty by the Lake is a good character, I like her even if my fav is still the Ice Witch.

Satou, why don't you use your Ben-To skill on Ume. I know she's a girl but still...
Agreed, some bento skills can at least put Ume in her place. I think that Ume simply picks on Satou, simply because he doesn't stand his ground. Well, STAND YOUR GROUND, don't let your ass get pushed around like that!

And to think she's supposed to be a CLASS representative, for somebody with such a role, you would think she would know simple ethics.

I don't even know how much time was wasted on Ume in this ep, frankly I felt like it could have been skipped altogether and give us a longer fight with Satou and that other guy.

EDIT: Satou and his dad play Virtual-ON?!!!! O_O This guy has got GOOD taste!
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Old 2011-10-30, 14:05   Link #584
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Lets hope Ume joins the Ben-to fights so Sato can sock her ass just one good time....

One knockdown...please Ben-to producers....just give me ONE
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Old 2011-10-30, 14:33   Link #585
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Hey, guys. Ume is one of my favorites. As far as I'm concerned, every moment of her is golden. Remember, this is a comedy. Stupid stuff happens. Of course in real life blondie could have resisted being dragged out of the room. But this is comedy. And one of us finds it funny, lol.
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Old 2011-10-30, 14:40   Link #586
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Hey, guys. Ume is one of my favorites. As far as I'm concerned, every moment of her is golden. Remember, this is a comedy. Stupid stuff happens. Of course in real life blondie could have resisted being dragged out of the room. But this is comedy. And one of us finds it funny, lol.
There's no need to repeat yourself again. It may be comedy, but the fact is that it's been reused for the previous three episodes, and frankly, it's getting OLD. While it may be a LITTLE funny if Ume struck back if Satou actively teased her (like chest size or w.e like most previous shows are like), but this time, it was completely unprovoked, that's what I call a b*tch.
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Old 2011-10-30, 14:54   Link #587
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the shadow guy must be extremely free to using multi monitors surveillance system and plotting schemes just to win half price bento.
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Old 2011-10-30, 14:58   Link #588
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the shadow guy must be extremely free to using multi monitors surveillance system and plotting schemes just to win half price bento.
Hey, Half price bentos are SERIOUS BUSINESS!
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Old 2011-10-30, 15:07   Link #589
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Would have been miles better if Ume actually wants some skinship with Satou...

There's still time to correct that, she just hasn't met her match yet. Time to prove yourself, Satou!

Just look at Laura Bodewig.
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Old 2011-10-30, 15:16   Link #590
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Hey, Half price bentos are SERIOUS BUSINESS!
But really, at this point it seems to be more about pride and honor rather than the bento itself. You can gave them a stack of cash to buy whatever food they want, they'll still fight for the Bentos and enjoy the hell out of it (they will still keep the stack of cash though).
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Old 2011-10-30, 15:39   Link #591
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But really, at this point it seems to be more about pride and honor rather than the bento itself. You can gave them a stack of cash to buy whatever food they want, they'll still fight for the Bentos and enjoy the hell out of it (they will still keep the stack of cash though).
Well, the Ice Queen made one of those stereotypical quips people in fighting anime tend to do when fighting, that sound pseudo-philosophical while making little sense in the actual framework of the story, and it was that Ayame cares too much about the fight and that she should remember that the Bento is the ultimate goal. Which is bogus, because if the Bento was what was really important, they'd all be fighting like dogs, not wolves.

Now, I know it's a fighting anime, so you're not supposed to actually analyze statements characters make to each other while fighting, and that the author had no intention of conveying the idea that I just stated, and that the quip was supposed to just be a type of tsuntsun statement regarding Ayame's obsession at beating the Ice Witch. But, as I showed, if one was to take this seriously, one might question how much of a wolf the Ice Witch really is, and if beneath that cold exterior, she's really just a dog posing as a wolf.

Anyways, I think the second best thing after actually watching this anime is spending the next week after each episode watching some people treat it like Serious Business™ as they reiterate how much they hate Ume, want to punch her, kill her, any of a million other misogynistic statements that if followed through with would ultimately make them no better than the target of their Serious Business™ anger. Cracks me up every week.
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Old 2011-10-30, 15:39   Link #592
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Ayame just find out if her beloved cousin, Satou have grown-up and yet she's still friend-zoned as expected. At first, I thought Ayame would try to resist Ume but she didn't and gets taken home instead. (Reminds me of the yuri battle in R-15, except Ayame isn't a Yuri.)
Who give information to Ayame regarding Satou and Ice Witch?
Funny how Satou accepted the Virtual Fighter match when his prize have raised its value beyond normal teenager's dream with bonus ear lick and ends up losing miserably.
I'm expecting a black market with 95% off ben-to rather than 50% where more skilled fighters participate.
I'm quite scared to find out if Ume turns out as a dark horse wolf for the east if her prized possession's life with the best voice acting ever for such a character by Aoi Yuuki is in jeopardy or in harm's way due to Ben-to battles. The breathing voice makes me HNGGG.
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Old 2011-10-30, 15:44   Link #593
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Hey, guys. Ume is one of my favorites. As far as I'm concerned, every moment of her is golden. Remember, this is a comedy. Stupid stuff happens. Of course in real life blondie could have resisted being dragged out of the room. But this is comedy. And one of us finds it funny, lol.
For the sake of comedy, I want her to be beat by Satou . He will unleach his AMAZING wolf's power on her !
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Old 2011-10-30, 15:46   Link #594
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For the sake of comedy, I want her to be beat by Satou . He will unleach his AMAZING wolf's power on her !
And, maybe make her straight in the process?
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Old 2011-10-30, 15:49   Link #595
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Just look at Laura Bodewig.
Laura was won over by the fans because almost immediately after ending her extreme bitch showcase, she practically was begging for some Ichika loving, damn near forcing it.....

With Ume, I just have a hard time seeing this happen.....she has a lot of making up to do if thats the case...She'll have to be ready to be completely man-handled and f$%ked silly by Satou to win over some fans now. When the MC successfully turns out the psycho lesbian, then mission accomplished.
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Old 2011-10-30, 15:51   Link #596
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So, is it ok to be more than er..."friends" with your cousins in Japan? Because, that last scene doesn't make a whole lot of sense if the answer is "no".
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Considering in anime, relationships with your sister are not out of the question...

In any case I doubt this is representative of actual common Japanese attitudes. You won't find this outside of light novels...
Wikipedia is your friend.

To sum-up:

Cousin marriage has been very common in most of the world at various times, even encouraged in some cultures. It became disfavored in the West mainly around the Civil War period (with the exception of Sweden who banned it far earlier). Even then disfavor was primarily targeted at parallel cousins (linking parents share the same gender).

Currently the only Western nation to ban cousin marriage are 30 of the United States.

Cousin marriage is very common in the Middle East and Africa.

Cousin marriage was once common in China but recently banned.

In Japan cousin marriage is still legal, but has declined in practice. (This might have as much to do with urbanization as with the importing of American disapproval of cousin marriage).

Overall cousin marriage is usually not seen as incestuous. America is actually an outlier on this subject.

I actually had to deal with a cousin elopement back when I was a lay minister. The couple had married in Texas, where cousin marriage was legal back then (it's been banned recently), yet were now back in Oklahoma and wanted a church ceremony. Cousin marriage is banned in Oklahoma, but it recognizes marriages preformed in other states. So we had to figure out if it was against the law to preform another marriage ceremony or not.
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Old 2011-10-30, 16:10   Link #597
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There has got to be a way to make Ume and characters of her kind (Miharu and Ran come to mind from last season) palatable, likable, nay, adored by the audience, but without changing their sexuality. Some of the responses in here are just unpleasant to read. The recent upswing/removing of the blinders every three months (at which point they promptly flop down again) to get people liking the sorta dense, sorta doofy main characters of the stories is a positive, but does it have to come at the expense of doling out (even worse) vitriol towards the heroines?
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Old 2011-10-30, 16:17   Link #598
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From the ending it seems Shaga is suffering from the "I don't have many friends" syndrome which might be the reason she's going to Saito's school which from the dialogue looks like they were very chummy as kids
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Old 2011-10-30, 16:27   Link #599
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And, maybe make her straight in the process?
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There has got to be a way to make Ume and characters of her kind (Miharu and Ran come to mind from last season) palatable, likable, nay, adored by the audience, but without changing their sexuality. Some of the responses in here are just unpleasant to read. The recent upswing/removing of the blinders every three months (at which point they promptly flop down again) to get people liking the sorta dense, sorta doofy main characters of the stories is a positive, but does it have to come at the expense of doling out (even worse) vitriol towards the heroines?
Wait what ? Ume is not an heroines at all. She's the bad guy (girl here ) of this serie !

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From the ending it seems Shaga is suffering from the "I don't have many friends" syndrome which might be the reason she's going to Saito's school which from the dialogue looks like they were very chummy as kids
She should join the Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai crew
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Old 2011-10-30, 16:33   Link #600
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Wait what ? Ume is not an heroines at all. She's the bad guy (girl here ) of this serie !
Agreed, she clearly is no damn Heroine. She is constantly at conflict with every main person in this series so far, and everyone either don't care for her or is scared of her.....these are the kinds of characters who have to be broken down to gain some audience appreciation.....

And breaking down her sexuality (one of the BIGGEST thing that accompanies and causes her jerkass tendancies) would be an excellent way of doing just that.
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