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Theo · 2012-12-17, 17:03

Spoiler for violence, nightmares, and language:

Ithekro · 2012-12-17, 17:18

That is an awful lot of late model German tanks Black Forest has there.

The ratio from the Pravda fight to this one is still the same though. 5:2

If the old rule were that they could only field ten tanks, the rules must have changed if Black Forest is fielding 20 tanks. If it was a ratio thing, Sanders could have fielded 12 tanks.

Also no words of encouragement/support from the Italian based team (not even shown to be present at all).

Nork22 · 2012-12-17, 17:33

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Originally Posted by LoweGear

We all know Oarai is going to win (how else can they make a Season 2?). But the journey is more important than the destination. And the question is HOW they're going to win. It's the most important question that'll determine how good episodes 11 and 12 will be.

I prefer if Oorai lose. Nothing against this great show, but it's really pushing it when there are just those damn odds against them.

I can see a second season where because of the school's achievements, the school won't be closed and they get a bit more money to get new equipment.

Ithekro · 2012-12-17, 17:36

All they have to do is take out Maho's Tiger I. They do that, they win.

Maho's second seems to be too focused on taking out Miho, when her objective should be the flag tank.

breno.m.fis · 2012-12-17, 17:47

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

All they have to do is take out Maho's Tiger I. They do that, they win.

Maho's second seems to be too focused on taking out Miho, when her objective should be the flag tank.

The Miho´s tank is the flag tank of Ooarai.

Panzerklein · 2012-12-17, 18:45

Which type of tanks in Black Forest team?

Myssa Rei · 2012-12-17, 18:49

Panzerklein: Look through the higher-tiers in the German Tank line in World of Tanks, and you'd see that they wouldn't be out of place. I noticed not only the Tiger, but several tank destroyers like the Jagdpanzer IV, Jagdtiger and Jagdpanther.

I also think there was a Panther somewhere, so yeah, the odds are already stacked against Ooarai in terms of quality again, but Black Forest ALSO had to play numerical superiority as well.

Chiaki_chan · 2012-12-17, 18:55

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Panzerklein · 2012-12-17, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Panzerklein: Look through the higher-tiers in the German Tank line in World of Tanks, and you'd see that they wouldn't be out of place. I noticed not only the Tiger, but several tank destroyers like the Jagdpanzer IV, Jagdtiger and Jagdpanther.

I also think there was a Panther somewhere, so yeah, the odds are already stacked against Ooarai in terms of quality again, but Black Forest ALSO had to play numerical superiority as well.

Win in a match of outpower, outnumber enemy is really not fun and unfair-play, just like kill a chicken by a bull-butcher knife. Oorai need a Legion of Mauses and E-100s to win this match

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Ithekro · 2012-12-17, 19:55

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Originally Posted by breno.m.fis

The Miho´s tank is the flag tank of Ooarai.

Hmmm, must have been the angles, I kept thinking the Hetzer was the flag tank.

Panzerklein · 2012-12-17, 20:05

Did Oorai has Hetzer?

Myssa Rei · 2012-12-17, 20:06

Yes, the Student Council's pz38 (t) was upgraded into a Hetzer. You can see it prominently when Ooarai's tanks lines up. Was I mistaken, or has it equipped the 105 mm howitzer? That's... certainly an odd choice, I think, for a TD, as it's essentially turned it into a close-range fighter.

Sumeragi · 2012-12-17, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Was I mistaken, or has it equipped the 105 mm howitzer?

Strangely enough, it's the 7.5 cm StuK 40. It's a gun used in the POST-WAR version of the Hetzer, the Swiss G13.

Tulik · 2012-12-17, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Panzerklein

Win in a match of outpower, outnumber enemy is really not fun and unfair-play, just like kill a chicken by a bull-butcher knife. Oorai need a Legion of Mauses and E-100s to win this match

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Oorai wins with speed not with armor, maus and E-100 are to slow.
maby panter II would be better?

Ithekro · 2012-12-17, 20:23

If Anzu is still gunning the thing, they are quite suited for close in work giving what she did with the gunnery in the Panzer 38(t) against the T-34s.

Spoiler for Ooarai's tanks:

LoweGear · 2012-12-17, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Strangely enough, it's the 7.5 cm StuK 40. It's a gun used in the POST-WAR version of the Hetzer, the Swiss G13.

Really? I dunno, it looks a bit too short and stubby to be the StuK 40 to me. Besides, most examples I know of the StuK 40, including the ones on the G-13, have muzzle brakes, something the Oarai Hetzer doesn't have. Looks more like the standard Pak 39 to me.

Myssa Rei · 2012-12-17, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

If Anzu is still gunning the thing, they are quite suited for close in work giving what she did with the gunnery in the Panzer 38(t) against the T-34s.

The limited horizontal traverse will make that hard, as it means that the hetz will have to turn the whole tank if they want to hit the side armor of their enemies. Which makes them a sitting duck in the process. Not really that good an option, ESPECIALLY in this battle, where Black Forest brought a metric ton of better tank destroyers with them.

Personal experience in World of Tanks has shown me that, yeah, it IS possible to use the Hetz's 105 mm as the TD version of a sawed-off shotgun, but it requires a lot of cover (like being in a closed-in city environment) so the Hetzer can sneak around unseen and surprise enemy tanks, something it can't do right now.

Sumeragi · 2012-12-17, 20:47

I looked at this:

The tip of the muzzle is different from the Pak 39, which looks like this:

wontaek · 2012-12-17, 20:57

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Originally Posted by chupiler

I don't think this is a spoiler, but in case...

Spoiler for Tank types:

Just found this official tweet, which explains that the Cossack Lullaby in ep 9 was completely ad lib by Sumipe; it only had "sing a lullaby" in the script. They don't call her the red seiyu for nothing, huh?

My respect for her went up a notch.

LoweGear · 2012-12-17, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

I looked at this:

The tip of the muzzle is different from the Pak 39, which looks like this:

Huh. Didn't find that particular image during my search, which all turned up the G13 with muzzle brakes.

Still, this looks to be one of those times when the variations of the Senshado rules are in place: from what I know, there were already plans for the Hetzer to get the StuK 40 before the war ended, so it technically would still be within the rules for the Hetzer to get the gun, even if in reality only the post-war G-13 got it.

2012-12-17, 17:18	Link #2962
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	That is an awful lot of late model German tanks Black Forest has there. The ratio from the Pravda fight to this one is still the same though. 5:2 If the old rule were that they could only field ten tanks, the rules must have changed if Black Forest is fielding 20 tanks. If it was a ratio thing, Sanders could have fielded 12 tanks. Also no words of encouragement/support from the Italian based team (not even shown to be present at all). __________________

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	All they have to do is take out Maho's Tiger I. They do that, they win. Maho's second seems to be too focused on taking out Miho, when her objective should be the flag tank. __________________

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Panzerklein In cash we trust! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Đế Quốc Đại Việt Thần Thánh Age: 37	Which type of tanks in Black Forest team? __________________ War! War never changes

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Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Panzerklein: Look through the higher-tiers in the German Tank line in World of Tanks, and you'd see that they wouldn't be out of place. I noticed not only the Tiger, but several tank destroyers like the Jagdpanzer IV, Jagdtiger and Jagdpanther. I also think there was a Panther somewhere, so yeah, the odds are already stacked against Ooarai in terms of quality again, but Black Forest ALSO had to play numerical superiority as well. __________________

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Chiaki_chan Kubo GO TO HELL Join Date: May 2012 Location: with Maki-sama Age: 31	Images Nonna et Katyusha Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

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Theo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Spoiler for violence, nightmares, and language:

2012-12-17, 20:05	Link #2971
Panzerklein In cash we trust! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Đế Quốc Đại Việt Thần Thánh Age: 37	Did Oorai has Hetzer? __________________ War! War never changes

2012-12-17, 20:06	Link #2972
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Yes, the Student Council's pz38 (t) was upgraded into a Hetzer. You can see it prominently when Ooarai's tanks lines up. Was I mistaken, or has it equipped the 105 mm howitzer? That's... certainly an odd choice, I think, for a TD, as it's essentially turned it into a close-range fighter. __________________

2012-12-17, 20:23	Link #2975
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	If Anzu is still gunning the thing, they are quite suited for close in work giving what she did with the gunnery in the Panzer 38(t) against the T-34s. Spoiler for Ooarai's tanks: Type 89 I-Go - Japan Type 3 Chi-Nu - Japan M3 Lee - United States Char B1 - France Panzer IV - Germany StuG III - Germany Hetzer - Germany Tiger (P) - Germany __________________

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Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	I looked at this: The tip of the muzzle is different from the Pak 39, which looks like this: