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Old 2011-03-06, 11:01   Link #2521
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:08   Link #2522
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Wow, the fox can talk... didn't see that one coming...
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:09   Link #2523
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:11   Link #2524
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:27   Link #2525
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Maybe he figured that something was happening in his sleep, and faked it to know what it was.

Can someone remind me what happened with Sam? And is Sam Mark? Or are we humans the fish people? I'm pretty confused...
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:32   Link #2526
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Maybe he figured that something was happening in his sleep, and faked it to know what it was.

Can someone remind me what happened with Sam? And is Sam Mark? Or are we humans the fish people? I'm pretty confused...
That could be it, though he gave no indications before. Perhaps this could be a sign that Keito doesn't need to do this anymore as well, whatever she is doing.

He took the ship from the King after giving him the blood and refusing the throne. Then killed the Girl and used her blood to make it move and sailed into the stars, only to discover that his planet had been a part of what he had so admired, which I guess made him killing the girl a somewhat pointless gesture. He sacrificed her for what ultimately was nothing.

I don't think Mark is Sam. Though if this is a prologue then that would make sense I suppose. I think Head thought that was it in any case.

I'm kind of guessing that if this story is based on real events, then they may be the galactic civilization which apparently created the Cybodies.
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:37   Link #2527
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I'm hoping someone will be kind enough to collect the information from this episode and Fish girl's story and lay it out to read. So much information I'd love to understand.

I can't wait to see how events turn out. I thought it was strange that Sarina wrote the script of the play but, according to those two who weren't on stage, she was ad-libbing and revealing some information to Takuto. I wonder what that was about.
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:49   Link #2528
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Maybe he figured that something was happening in his sleep, and faked it to know what it was.

Can someone remind me what happened with Sam? And is Sam Mark? Or are we humans the fish people? I'm pretty confused...
I never thought of that possibility, but it makes sense. I think Columner would be Sam.

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I thought it was strange that Sarina wrote the script of the play but, according to those two who weren't on stage, she was ad-libbing and revealing some information to Takuto. I wonder what that was about.
Well she didn't write that part that she was actually saying. It was actually the truth and she wanted to get Takuto's real response. I guess it was in order to make sure that he was actually going to stand against the crux and not seek power for himself.
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:55   Link #2529
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:56   Link #2530
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I never thought of that possibility, but it makes sense. I think Columner would be Sam.
No, IIRC, Sam met an immortal king of the fish people. That would be Columner.
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Old 2011-03-06, 11:56   Link #2531
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The Cybodies appear at least to be of alien make as does Tauburn. I've been wondering if perhaps all the families with marks are descendants of this Galactic Civilization.
They most likely are. That would explain why Sugata and presumably the previous Samekh drivers were betrothed to maidens: to keep their "fish blood" pure and prevent them from losing their mark like the other families.
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I never thought of that possibility, but it makes sense. I think Columner would be Sam.
Columner is the King in Sam's story. I assumed Mark was Sam, just like Head apparently did.
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Old 2011-03-06, 12:47   Link #2532
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yea i think you guys are right that Mark would be Sam. Watched the ep over to make sure i understand it properly
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Old 2011-03-06, 13:56   Link #2533
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It definitely seemed like a kind of prequel thing. Of course Sam was never told the story of the king in the Fish Girl version, though I suppose you can't have the two perfect stories lining up. Fish Girl's story lines up with Head's view on what would happen with Sam/Mark eventually being caught up in the ship like the King and sacrifice their love. Though the play gives a more hopeful picture of resisting that temptation and treasuring the girl instead.

But wow what's with aliens and small talking animals these days ? At least they explain why Tauburn is so powerful. The unit was made differently and thus has unpredictable limits. Plus finally seems that after over 20 episodes the Crux has stumbled onto the crazy idea of ganging up on Tauburn....
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Old 2011-03-06, 14:36   Link #2534
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Aliens are involve in this show now; not sure how I feel about it.
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Old 2011-03-06, 14:39   Link #2535
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Aliens are involve in this show now; not sure how I feel about it.
... What did you think it was before?
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It definitely seemed like a kind of prequel thing. Of course Sam was never told the story of the king in the Fish Girl version, though I suppose you can't have the two perfect stories lining up. Fish Girl's story lines up with Head's view on what would happen with Sam/Mark eventually being caught up in the ship like the King and sacrifice their love. Though the play gives a more hopeful picture of resisting that temptation and treasuring the girl instead.

But wow what's with aliens and small talking animals these days ? At least they explain why Tauburn is so powerful. The unit was made differently and thus has unpredictable limits. Plus finally seems that after over 20 episodes the Crux has stumbled onto the crazy idea of ganging up on Tauburn....
But didn't Tauburn look a lot like Head's unit?
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Old 2011-03-06, 14:47   Link #2536
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Aliens are involve in this show now; not sure how I feel about it.
Have we been watching the same show? This has been about aliens sine the first scene lol.

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Old 2011-03-06, 14:53   Link #2537
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well I know aliens were in it but it was confirmed now. Just seems weird to me aliens created cybodies for humans to control unless the people that have marks happen to be aliens too. lol
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Old 2011-03-06, 14:56   Link #2538
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well I know aliens were in it but it was confirmed now. Just seems weird to me aliens created cybodies for humans to control
Isn't that normal? Whether the aliens are tentacle monsters or energy beings, don't they always end up making stuff the humans can operate?
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Old 2011-03-06, 15:09   Link #2539
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That was by far the best i've seen from the series. Sugata's over the top stance on the ship was so damn fabulous.

Totally expected Sarina to be more then just what we've seen of her, but so not needed at the same time.
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Old 2011-03-06, 15:18   Link #2540
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Sugata was the best actor in the play. His over-the-top performance was so much fun. Moreover, it was awesome to see him stab bitches left and right.

After thinking about it a bit more, I came to the conclusion that Mark is none other than Takuto himself. The play was an inconspicuous way for Sarina to warn him/send him a message and ascertain his intentions.
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