2007-09-12, 22:00 | Link #204 |
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we're stuck with him. Unless yagi-san introduces another male character who's not an emotional wreck/wuss who says "Clare" 8 times an episode, he's here to stay. The lone human major character....(sigh) and he cries more than my 5 year old nephew.
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2007-09-12, 23:14 | Link #205 |
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So this is what it comes down to, hm? What started out as a promising analysis and dissection of a flawed character is now par boiled to more name-calling and throwing of rotten vegetables to get him off stage. I shouldn't take it personally, but... I do. Why? Because in the quest for more excitement, people are missing the point of the character.
I will reiterate: in the manga, the Raki character is the embodiment of perseverance, the human will to survive. Claire could've easily become another Ophelia without the guardianship qualities that Raki brings out in her. In that way, he's essential. And yet, unlike so many other masculine characters in manga, the story doesn't revolve around him. Claire doesn't go, "God, I wish Raki was here! He would know what to do," which she would undoubtedly say if Raki was a superpowered half-yoma. He's still growing into his own... and because he and Claire live for each other, I am almost certain we're going to see him in the future manga stages, stronger than ever. But in the meantime, I see you people. I see you throwing rotten tomatoes at his time on stage while he struggles through getting back to Claire. And I think to myself that I could have spent my time more productively than sitting here trying to convince people who won't listen to a word I have to say. I bid you good day, ladies and gents. May our paths never cross. P.S. @ Darkside Hero: This is the Raki discussion thread. You take your man-hating ways somewhere else, because Raki is all this thread's devoted to. |
2007-09-12, 23:26 | Link #206 |
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I've tried to avoid this thread religiously (up until now) and I see that nothing's really changed. XD
May GAR no Kami strike you all down for your unbelief. I think that people nowadays have forgotten about hope without going GARlock and the like... The energy in this place is horrible. Must use Feng Shui to correctly align it back to a more harmonious state...
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2007-09-13, 01:39 | Link #207 | ||
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2007-09-13, 03:53 | Link #208 | |
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I don't think he's dead from what I've seen so far Raki benefits the most from the seven year gap so it would be a cheap cop out if he's been killed in the seven year gap (and a missed opportunity as well) |
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2007-09-13, 11:48 | Link #211 |
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Yeah. And he protected Clare from Ophelia, too. Without him, she would be dead by now.
And thanks to him we got to know Clare's human side better, too. Otherwise she would be just another 'cold badass character without emotions, searching for reveange'. Don't forget Clare just went to that city in Riful's arc searching FOR HIM! Thanks for that Jean didn't awaked. And thanks to him we got to know what happened to Priscilla since the Teresa's Arc, too. And there's a chance he touched her long-time lost human heart... what probably will help Clare and the others to survive, somehow. Nothing bad for a "plot hole filler and nothing more". |
2007-09-13, 11:51 | Link #212 | |
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Maybe Yagi got the memo and secretly killed him off.
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2007-09-13, 12:34 | Link #213 |
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With the last episode I am pleased to see his character develop (albeit late and slow)... I was waiting for that revelation, when he actually realizes that he has no chance of actually being the protector he tries to be. He became down on him self and now thanks to the newly added member of "the Raki Harem" Deneve now he is back on his feet (some what back on the delusional path of protector). However it is still an improvement that he reflected a bit and realized that him just swinging a sword will not do nothing in a world of yoma and claymores. Now the anime has to find hime some sort of niche, I have a feeling he is gonna evolve into more than just the side story character/side-kick and I think something that he does will be the direct result of the final outcome. Much to the horror of many of you im sure ...
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2007-09-13, 15:13 | Link #214 |
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I'm not a fan of Raki but I don't hate him. Sometimes the guy grates on my last nerve with his sorely deluded and naive belief he can stand with Clare during moments of mortal peril. But it's understandable that he just wants to help. He's just a kid after all with major tunnel vision when it comes to his favourite Claymore. I really wished she had smacked him instead when he refused to leave her while Ophelia was hunting them. I think that would have ante upped the guilt factor during their long separation and I always root for the angst. The kiss did nothing for me really.
Having said that, I'm really interested to see what's became of Raki after 7 years on his own. I'm hoping he's retained his kind hearted nature that makes him likable, but he's more tempered with a maturity that comes from becoming a warrior. I'm also hoping he's not some kick ass uber swordsman who can PWN yomas and Claymores with his abyssal flesh enhanced elite skills. I prefer a more grounded and vulnerable character. And I'm in the same camp who believe Raki's true strength lies in appealing to Clare's human heart and being a simple normal guy in extraordinary circumstances. Kinda like Xander in Buffy. Well, I'm sure the manga will reveal all...eventually. |
2007-09-13, 22:32 | Link #215 | ||
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And how long do you have to prepare a trap...i dunno, how long does it take to send a request to the org and a claymore to travel to a town? How long was the yoma in rabona killing off people (in fact, that city had implemented measures..they were just insufficient)?
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2007-09-14, 07:21 | Link #218 | ||
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That aside, you don't have to know or suspect the person anyway. Create a starvation scenario. Military law is enforced, people are kept under watch, set up patrols. Everyone is armed with a whistle, travel in pairs of 3 is required. If you live alone you don't anymore, you are put with other people. Also, systematic blood tests are being conducted dailey, adding pressure and desperation to the yoma (this is also how you ensure your key allies and those who know about the plans are legit). The yoma has to avoid these situations. Targets become more scarce, any successful attack will be easier to deduce what happened. Then, you send out some juicy bait alone, seperated from the other 2 people, do it in multiple areas with sufficient backup squads. Squads are armed with powerful bows, poison tipped arrows (poison developed over time fighting them, after all you are yoma hunter). Before you say arrows wont work, an arrow is far faster and hits way harder than the daggers that little ratty dude sunk into that yoma (admittedly with little to no effect...but they werent poisoned..) A few soldiers/militia equipped with spears, a couple of your yoma hunting mercenaries accompany the regulars with claymores they found as grave markers in case the yoma gets past spears....or if he falls from the poison you can finish them. If you think about any problem long enough someone will find a way to solve it. And thats my point. Hell if i was a yoma and i was faced with this level of security i would just leave the town.
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So you use your dagger and find purple blood! You're dead. The guards who were pointing their spears at the suspect, with just that mix of tension and boredom that ensures they'll be extra-slow? They're dead, too. Well, done, you've forced the yoma to change its hiding place! At the expense of several lives. And, in a city like Rabona, with all its goings and comings, and that huge population to choose from, how hard will it be for it to find a new person to imitate? And if you truly make an inescapable deathtrap for your suspects... Chances are, the yoma will just escape early instead of doing after he's killed you and your men. But he'll still be at large, maybe even in your city. Quote:
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And remember a yoma can last weeks on a single meal. In those weeks, he'll surely find an opportunity to sabotage your efforts. Kill you most seasoned warriors and go away. Sure, the yoma problem will be temporarily solved, at a huge cost... assuming it doesn't decide to double back once the state of alert is gone. How long can you keep it up? Though, on a brighter note, we haven't seen much smarts from yomas. Some low level cunning, but no real long term planning. So maybe it'd go better than what I've described - at least, you might be able to chase it off. Make it decide that there are easier meals out there. But see, hunting yomas is neither easy nor cheap. I think you underestimate the difficulty, the risks, and the costs involved in dealing with even one yoma grunt, let alone an AB (who do have human-like intelligence. Fortunately, they may not look like your childhood friend.). |
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2007-09-14, 09:57 | Link #220 |
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I knew the first thing you'd say was 'it isnt in the manga!' heh Well i can't really argue there, but then the manga doesn't specifically deny this either. Since i have one saying yes and the other saying nothing, I'll go with that. But thats not to say there aren't other ways we don't know about. I am sure if i thought long enough i could theorize on some ways (animals that can smell out a yoma could exist..fluffy might notice jimmy smells a little different, maybe capture a claymore, drug her or otherwise force her to do your bidding, 'rescue' a young girl claymore and use her for that purpose, or even capture and force a yoma to etc etc). If i think long enough ill figure out something.
Assuming the blood thing, and you prick their finger, he kills you, and the preparations you had in place to combat this occurance deal with the yoma. Come on, yoma can be killed by people with enough forces, they aren't equal to an army. That is why the yoma in the cathedral would run if a large amount of soldiers came. How many of those spears you think he can deflect from all directions? As for the resources, yes you will need some weapons and a team of yoma hunter with the knowledge to mobilize and lead militia conscripted from the people. Depending on the size of the town (smaller town needs less mind..it will also be easier to weed out the yoma, less places/people to hide in/as), you have what...a cart of weapons? Thats assuming the town doesn't have weapons of their own that can be retrofitted. You make plans and put them in place, until the yoma is found and eradicated. When you leave, you leave behind a few stout men trained in what they need to reactivate the plan should the need arise, with instructions on how to have your faction dispatch any backup they may need. All of the expense or downtime incurred probably doesn't equal the cost of a claymore, and you gain the benefit of the knowledge and plan to defend yourself in the long run. Im not saying any of this is easy or even feasible for some towns (how many will just wet themselves and run?), i am saying that it is certainly possible. This is probably how the human population avoided eradication before the org developed claymores to combat the yoma (assuming they didn't churn them out from the start). Claymores were 'a better way' that the org developed and exploited. Doesn't mean it was the only way.
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