New Mobile Report Gundam Wing: Frozen Teardrop (2010 Novel)

[gundamnedgirl03]

Originally Posted by akigakuyuu

Really? Huh. I never really noticed. Actually, have I ever watched the OVA version? ... O_o; *goes to get her EW dvd*



Oh, I'm sure. But man, did I have a laughing fit last night reading that.

Me: Wait, so Treize is blonde, but Relena is brunette? Wth. *flips to Heero's page* ... DAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

aaahhh. so treize is a blondie after all hahahahahaha! yay! thanks for bringin that up. now i can go update my character profs. that's what i don't get too, btw. i remember seeing a profile of sally and shes listed as a blonde and yet she and treize have obviously darker shade of whateverthatcoloris than relena's. and yet i get mauled by haters when i say she's blond. like srsly compared to treizes and sally's hers is lighter but meeehhh.

[Kitsoru]

Originally Posted by IkuzeMinna

Funfact: Hikaru Midorikawa, Heero's seiyuu, also voiced Seto Kaiba in Yu-Gi-Oh! Season 0. The Seto Kaiba who had green hair.

By the way, does anyone know what rank/title of nobility Treize had? I think he was a duke or something...?

Moar funfacts: One year before Wing started, Midorikawa and Seki (Duo's VA) were teammates in Future GPX Cyber Formula (Midoikawa as Shinjyo; Seki as Kaga).

Yes, he is a duke. http://www.gundamofficial.com/www_ac...ar_treize.html

Off to scan GotD soon.

[Deacon Blues]

Courtesy of Data Gundam (Treize's file)

Duke: Treize Khushrenada, Valder Farkill, Berg
Count: Lady Une, Zechs Merquise, Sedici, Broden
Viscount: Jim(?), Christ(?), Kratz Silvy(?)
Baron: Zechs Merquise, Heintz(?)
Baronet: Lucrezia Noin, Trant Clark
Knight: Otto, Alex, Meuller, Walker, Nicol, Mesa(?), Urabo(?), Lucard(?), Matsumoto, Roche Nattono, Kratz Silvy, Broom Brooks, Luna Armonia, Soris Armonia
Sir: Bruno, Trowa Barton, Claus, Clements, Aretha Walker, Lowe Sernan


I have no idea who some of these people are...

[IkuzeMinna]

Thanks Deacon and Kit, this is very interesting. Even if I don't know who most of those guys are. Too bad Tsubarov isn't listed...
By the way, that Christ dude is the guy with the shades.

Spoiler for blue one:

And wasn't Jim a mechanic? As for the others, I have a feeling FT might touch upon them...

[Kitsoru]

Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Courtesy of Data Gundam (Treize's file)

Duke: Treize Khushrenada, Valder Farkill, Berg
Count: Lady Une, Zechs Merquise, Sedici, Broden
Viscount: Jim(?), Christ(?), Kratz Silvy(?)
Baron: Zechs Merquise, Heintz(?)
Baronet: Lucrezia Noin, Trant Clark
Knight: Otto, Alex, Meuller, Walker, Nicol, Mesa(?), Urabo(?), Lucard(?), Matsumoto, Roche Nattono, Kratz Silvy, Broom Brooks, Luna Armonia, Soris Armonia
Sir: Bruno, Trowa Barton, Claus, Clements, Aretha Walker, Lowe Sernan


I have no idea who some of these people are...

By "Trowa Barton", do they mean the original? Or ..idk, Trowa while he was undercover in OZ? Cuz I'd thought it was explicitly said that the Bartons were NOT nobility or otherwise affluent people of any sort, hence their bitterness towards people in Romefeller who treated them as less for this reason (despite being their elder, in Dekim's case).

Interesting the Sedici was a Count, cuz wasn't he a General for White Fang? So would that mean Artemis Sedici was also a Countess?

Interesting that Trant Clark was a Baronet, I wonder if Seis was as well. (If he was legally adopted by Seis, that would make Heero one as well, wouldn't it? )

And some of these people are the ones mentioned earlier in the novel as part of Treize's original group of cadets, I think...

[IkuzeMinna]

Originally Posted by Kitsoru

By "Trowa Barton", do they mean the original? Or ..idk, Trowa while he was undercover in OZ? Cuz I'd thought it was explicitly said that the Bartons were NOT nobility or otherwise affluent people of any sort, hence their bitterness towards people in Romefeller who treated them as less for this reason (despite being their elder, in Dekim's case).

I think they mean the pilot and I think that these titles are less of a hereditary thing and more of a military ranking system. Zechs was 'promoted' from baron to count, wasn't he? Usually you have to buy a title like that if you weren't born with it but in his case I think it was awarded to him due to his military achievements and not because of a big paycheck. Which makes me question who's true nobility and who isn't.

[Deacon Blues]

This list is from 2006 :P The other characters are from god knows what...

The definition for countess defines it as a wife or an earl or a count, but also a woman who holds in her own right the rank of earl or count. So I'm assuming that Count is unisex?

And that's when Trowa infiltrated OZ.

Urabo is apparently a Taurus pilot who "smoked out" the Epyon.

Edit: Just because they are OZ soldiers doesn't mean they hold court with Romefeller...

[Kitsoru]

Originally Posted by IkuzeMinna

I think they mean the pilot and I think that these titles are less of a hereditary thing and more of a military ranking system. Zechs was 'promoted' from baron to count, wasn't he? Usually you have to buy a title like that if you weren't born with it but in his case I think it was awarded to him due to his military achievements and not because of a big paycheck. Which makes me question who's true nobility and who isn't.

Maybe... but wasn't Treize's rank inherited? Otherwise, you'd think Duke Dermail would be much higher ranked since he was Treize's superior as head of Romefeller, but it'd make sense that the Catalonia and Khushrenada line would be equal if it was acceptable for them to marry into one another (Angelina and Hundelt)- thus making Dorothy a Duchess, btw since that would make Chilias also the same rank- it'd make sense she's equal to Treize....

What was Cinquante Khushrenada's title? Was it mentioned?

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

And that's when Trowa infiltrated OZ.
...
Edit: Just because they are OZ soldiers doesn't mean they hold court with Romefeller...

Great, thanks!

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[Elo the Blue]

Walker was a knight?

Originally Posted by Kitsoru

Interesting the Sedici was a Count, cuz wasn't he a General for White Fang? So would that mean Artemis Sedici was also a Countess?

Probably not. Was Artemis ever a part of OZ?

Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Courtesy of Data Gundam (Treize's file)

Duke: Treize Khushrenada, Valder Farkill, Berg
Count: Lady Une, Zechs Merquise, Sedici, Broden
Viscount: Jim(?), Christ(?), Kratz Silvy(?)
Baron: Zechs Merquise, Heintz(?)
Baronet: Lucrezia Noin, Trant Clark
Knight: Otto, Alex, Meuller, Walker, Nicol, Mesa(?), Urabo(?), Lucard(?), Matsumoto, Roche Nattono, Kratz Silvy, Broom Brooks, Luna Armonia, Soris Armonia
Sir: Bruno, Trowa Barton, Claus, Clements, Aretha Walker, Lowe Sernan


I have no idea who some of these people are...

Good to know that Farkill was a Duke.

Kratz Silvy is a character in G-Unit.

Could Heintz be Victor Gaintz from BoP?

[Kitsoru]

Originally Posted by Elo the Blue

Probably not. Was Artemis ever a part of OZ?

Not that we heard... but Sedici was definitely the White Fang general I was thinking of:
http://aboutgundamwing.com/glossary_characters.htm
Scroll to his name. Maybe he'd formerly been part of OZ and then changed allegiances? But that still wouldn't make sense if these are hereditary titles and Artemis wasn't a noble.. (she was just a factory worker, wasn't she?)

[Washu-Chan]

Originally Posted by Kitsoru

Moar funfacts: One year before Wing started, Midorikawa and Seki (Duo's VA) were teammates in Future GPX Cyber Formula (Midoikawa as Shinjyo; Seki as Kaga).

Future GPX Cyber Formula was directed by Mitsuo Fukuda, who would go on to direct Gundam SEED and SEED Destiny. Chiaki Morosawa wrote a few episodes of Future GPX.

Continuing the streak, the VAs for Quatre, Relena, Zechs, and Noin were in the various Tenchi shows:

• Quatre is Ryoko
• Relena is Yugi [Tenchi in Tokyo] and Ken-Ohki [Tenchi Universe]
• Zechs is Yosho
• Noin is Sasami and Tsunami

[Deacon Blues]

I think everyone is thinking a bit too much about the ranks... lol. The way the chart is established is as follows.

Alliance Rank --> SMS Rank (Specials) --> Court Rank --> Characters

So the chart is pretty much just demonstrating what equivalent ranks amongst factions would be.

[Elo the Blue]

Originally Posted by Kitsoru

Not that we heard... but Sedici was definitely the White Fang general I was thinking of:
http://aboutgundamwing.com/glossary_characters.htm
Scroll to his name. Maybe he'd formerly been part of OZ and then changed allegiances? But that still wouldn't make sense if these are hereditary titles and Artemis wasn't a noble.. (she was just a factory worker, wasn't she?)

I've been under the impression Sedici was always affiliated with White Fang and infiltrated OZ to make the takeover easier.

Like Deacon said though, the ranks are just equivalents.

Can we expect GotD scans tonight? *crosses fingers*

[Kitsoru]

Originally Posted by Elo the Blue

Can we expect GotD scans tonight? *crosses fingers*

Hopefully. I've been checking every so often for the scanner to be free up in our dorm computer lab (Friday nights = crazy busy up there cuz it's also the dorm lounge), so I'll prolly be able to scan them before midnight. It only takes about a half hour to process 'em, sooooo they should be uploaded by late night/early morning?

It's only 12 pages, so. Lol scratch that, it's 33. Where the hell'd I get 12 from...

[Elo the Blue]

I remember you saying it was a short chapter. Twelve pages would be ridiculous.

[Kitsoru]

Originally Posted by Elo the Blue

I remember you saying it was a short chapter. Twelve pages would be ridiculous.

It felt short, anyway. To be honest I'm half asleep here, haha. It's a miracle I'm awake enough to scan at all.

[Elo the Blue]

I appreciate it...

[akigakuyuu]

Originally Posted by gundamnedgirl03

aaahhh. so treize is a blondie after all hahahahahaha! yay! thanks for bringin that up. now i can go update my character profs. that's what i don't get too, btw. i remember seeing a profile of sally and shes listed as a blonde and yet she and treize have obviously darker shade of whateverthatcoloris than relena's. and yet i get mauled by haters when i say she's blond. like srsly compared to treizes and sally's hers is lighter but meeehhh.

I've always considered Relena blonde. With blue eyes. (Wth, violet?) It's one of those things where if they can say Treize is blonde and Relena's hair is lighter... then logically it follows to me.

Though, I always considered Treize more of a light brown with reddish tones.

I'm thinking way to hard into these things. In the end, Heero has Moss Green hair and that's what matters. Lol.

Originally Posted by IkuzeMinna

...I think that these titles are less of a hereditary thing and more of a military ranking system. Zechs was 'promoted' from baron to count, wasn't he?

Agreed.

And you rock for giving up your sleep for scanning, Kitsoru!

[Kitsoru]

Scans are done, but yeah, I'm definitely out for the night, haha. Will clean them up and post them tomorrow.

[Joaniedoe]

Originally Posted by Kitsoru

Not that we heard... but Sedici was definitely the White Fang general I was thinking of:
http://aboutgundamwing.com/glossary_characters.htm
Scroll to his name. Maybe he'd formerly been part of OZ and then changed allegiances? But that still wouldn't make sense if these are hereditary titles and Artemis wasn't a noble.. (she was just a factory worker, wasn't she?)

Sedici was part of a group of White Fang that infiltraited Oz's Lunar base. I'm guesing him and his group joined Oz at about the time Hilde had joined Oz, it seamed like a lot of colonist where joining Oz's ranks at the time.

As for the nobility thing, wow I didn't expect that long list muchless Sedici of all people being on it! May be his father was of nobilaty or bought his rank. I can't picture his mother being the type or aloud to by a title after all her work as a resistance leader.

At Elo the Blue;
Why would Kratz Silvy be listed twice?
Heintz meaning Victor Gaintz would be interasting. Just a random musing but his design always looked like an interasting mix of Zechs & Quanz (Sp?) apreance to me.