Martial Arts and Combat Sports

[Papaya]

Unless something's been changed, rumors have all been saying that Serra vs Hughes relied on Hughes not getting his ass kicked by everyone =X

[HayashiTakara]

UFC looks like drunken guys fighting in an alley way. I can just go out on a friday night and see something better.

[gold_orb]

"retiered" Black Belt in tae kwan do

[Papaya]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

UFC looks like drunken guys fighting in an alley way. I can just go out on a friday night and see something better.

To the untrained eye, sure.
There's a general rule in striking that the flashier an attack looks, the more worthless it generally is. There are exceptions to this, like spinning backfists (there's a reason it's banned in boxing), cobra/Superman punches, flying knees, and things like that, but you won't see any movie kicks here. For example, Jean Claude van Damme's famous spinning hook kick in Bloodsport might knock a stuntman out, but against a real person, it's more of a slap.

Comparing real MMA to whatever you're thinking of is analogous to comparing chess to Trouble. More than half of MMA (and any fighting) is in the head, so I wouldn't expect a first-time viewer to understand the mindgames at play. It really is something that takes a long time to appreciate.

[mg1942]

I expected him to win yesterday's CBS mixed martial arts angry

Spoiler for fight clip:

http://i35.tinypic.com/i422bt.jpg

He would've won, had he fought Shamrock, who has an AARP card and lost 7 of his last 8 matches. This is why you don't stake your business on a circus act. It's over now. He just got KO'd by a jab from a guy 30 pounds lighter who's only notable win is over another AARP card holder, Dan Severn.

[cors8]

Long as he saved the money he made from all the hype, he's the real winner.

[mg1942]

I just realized.....

The hype-monster got beaten by a TUF runner-up. The only surprising aspect here is how desperate the media wanted this guy to be the next big thing. I guess legit world-class fighters like Rampage Jackson and Anderson Silva were just too nice to be their darlings, not nearly offensive enough, they wanted MMA fandom to be worshiping an out-and-out thug. EliteXC got what they deserved.

[solomon]

CBS has fallen a long way scince the highs of Archie Bunker and Carol Burnett in the 70s on saturadays, Jesus.

Anyways still is a surprise.

[Cherudim Arche]

Man, that wasn't even a fight at all. MMA on television will need a lot of work to change all the crap it has.

I think even fight quest is better than this, and it still sucks to human weapon

[mg1942]

I only tuned in to CBS HD to showcase my friends the new HDTV tjhat I bought

The picture quality is sooo nice after I calibrated it myself.

[Tommy]

Lol at Kimbo "Glass Jaw" Slice.

[Solace]

Looks like he misjudged the kick and paid the price for it. /shrug happens to even the greatest of fighters. He's always relied too much on upper body strength imo.

legit world-class fighters

I hear this criticism of Kimbo a lot. "He's a youtube joke, he's not a real fighter, etc." I won't argue his fighting is based on a street brawler background but he *can* fight. Sure, it's not like he was raised on Judo in a temple in China or has 20 belt degrees or whatever but I hope he doesn't let this keep him down if he really wants to pursue this.

On the other hand yeah, the media really did push him as the next big thing. He's good, but not *that* good, but really MMA sports in general don't get much mainstream acknowledgment so they were probably betting he'd help bring some interest in.

Ah, final thing. That gif is huge. I'd rather you just use a link to it out of respect for people with bandwidth caps or slow connections.

[karasuma]

Actual fight :

Like I posted in other threads. Kimbo need to fight these guys!!

Real fighters :

[Aoie_Emesai]

As long as it wasn't a submission fight. I find those rather unentertaining.

[Zeroryoko1974]

these guys would have been likely future opponents of Kimbo Slice

[mg1942]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBLL3...eature=related

No room for error?

[Cherudim Arche]

Originally Posted by mg1942

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBLL3...eature=related

No room for error?

Did you note that the attacker with the spear did not use any thrust or swings. In a actually fight, the attacks are less formulaic in just purely thrusts.

I also think that fight choreography could be a lot better, you can easily tell how he evades with several inches or millimeter in each strike.

[Yu Ominae]

Am a kendo practitioner for a few months. Lots of fun, but I'm not in the part where the sensei says that I can wear a bogu.

[PaperMaster]

I'm a freestyler. Are brawlers and freestylers the same ? And how is JKD different from freestyling ?

[C.A.]

JKD is not a style, its a philosophy, Bruce Lee always emphasized that. You can learn any martial art and still follow the phiosophies of JKD. JKD itself is not the style, the martial art, it is a way to maximise the efficiency of your martial art.