2007-04-12, 22:08 | Link #601 | |
Dansa med oss
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky
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Oh, and learn to read Hiragana -> Katakana -> Kanji. |
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2007-04-13, 00:52 | Link #602 | ||
日本語を食べません!
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Location: San Francisco
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You don't speak a language based on whatever words you think sounds cool. I can't speak with certainty, but if you really do want to learn the language on its own rights (not simply because you love anime) then break this habit or you WILL get burned later on. I'm actually very surprised your teacher would let you get away with speaking like a punk kid. Last edited by raikage; 2007-04-13 at 02:50. |
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2007-04-13, 01:28 | Link #603 |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Chi-town
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anybody know of any good japanese dictionary? Google:translation fails me 100% and uh free dict doesn't work sometimes.
I need a dict! I effing failed grammar. I know what I am saying/writing but my grammar just killed me.. "gakusei ha nihon" stuff.. FAIL |
2007-04-13, 01:32 | Link #604 | |
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Grammar: http://www.guidetojapanese.org |
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2007-04-13, 04:33 | Link #605 | |
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Most people here study Japanese in order to work in Japan or at least for a Japanese company here and therefore they say it's important that we know about it. It's my first year of Japanese. The next year they'll focus on when to use what kind of speech etc. For now they introduced just a few irregular verbs and the grammatical rules to form humble and honorific forms. We get lots of exercises about it... Oral as well as written. Lately I've been busy with 授受動詞 (jujudoushi) in humble and honorific forms in sentences where you put a verb in the 〜て形+Giving/Receiving verbs i.e. |
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2007-04-13, 19:42 | Link #607 | |
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2007-04-13, 23:44 | Link #608 |
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For those on other OSes, there are similar edict-integrating dictionaries.
I use gjiten on Linux and Mayjay on OS X. And if I'm on the web, I either use Jim Breen's server or, more commonly these days, I visit http://jisho.org/ which is also my #1 spot for looking up kanji by radical (it has a great interface, give it a try!) I'm extra glad I found jisho.org, because I only came across it while researching how to build something very similar. Saved me a lot of work! |
2007-04-14, 21:32 | Link #609 | |
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Yeah i know. Ill get burn for this. I have to cut this habit. |
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2007-04-14, 23:22 | Link #610 |
Dansa med oss
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky
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Actually, polite speech is much easier, since all the verbs conjugate the same with the 'masu' ending (which may be another reason why it's usually taught first). It is also less prone to random idiosyncracies, so it's easier to understand people when they speak this way.
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2007-04-15, 09:01 | Link #611 | |
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Teineigo (-masu) is just to be polite overall, whereas sonkeigo is where you are describing the actions of people superior than you and kenjougo is where you are actually speaking to someone higher than you (eg, your company's CEO) and you are describing the action of you and the people within your "group." When using these forms of speech, some verbs change into something completely different Some examples of this (straight out of my text book): Sonkeigo (尊敬語): To go, come, be: 行く(iku), 来る(kuru), いる(iru) -> いらっしゃる(irassharu) To do: する(suru) -> 為さる(nasaru) To say: 言う(iu) -> おっしゃる (ossharu) To look: 見る(miru) -> ご覧になる (goran ni naru) To come: 来る(kuru) -> おいでになる(oide ni naru) To be: である(dearu) -> でいらっしゃる (deirassharu) To eat: 食べる(taberu) -> 召し上がる (meshiagaru) To know: 知る(shiru) -> ご存知である(gozonji dearu) Kenjougo (謙譲語): To go: 行く(iku) -> 伺う(ukagau) To say: 言う(iu) -> 申す(mousu) To look: 見る(miru) -> 拝見する(haikensuru) To come: 来る(kuru) -> 参る(mairu) To be: である (dearu) -> でござる(degozaru) To know: 知る(shiru) -> 存じる(zonjiru) To eat, drink, recieve: 食べる(taberu), 飲む(nomu), もらう(morau) -> 頂く(itadaku) To be (person): いる(iru) -> おる(oru) By the way, about that JWPce. Download it. Now. It is VERY useful. If it were to keep a log of how many times i've used its dictionary, it would at least be in the 5 digit figure. Really useful for people learning japanese, saves the fuss of going to an online dictionary and searching for a word (don't even mention a real dictionary) Last edited by Erawyn; 2007-04-15 at 09:22. |
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2007-04-16, 21:56 | Link #613 |
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My preferred dictionary: http://dict.regex.info/cgi-bin/j-e/sjis/dict (has mirrors, occasionally you may have to use them). Also includes kanji look-up through various means, but not through visual recognition (although the visual ones seem to be pretty flawed. Nice idea, though). You might need to tweak a special option to get it out output the reading in hiragana instead of romaji on some mirrors, although that might only matter to you if you're like me and can't stand romaji in place of hiragana/katakana. Probably a nice option for the beginners, though.
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2007-04-16, 22:32 | Link #614 | |
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2007-04-18, 12:40 | Link #617 |
Dark Lord of the West
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA
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I only know a few
Aniki-san-------Older Brother Mizu----------Water Kitsune-------Fox Mushi Mushi---------"Hello" on the Telephone and Konuchiwah(don't know how to spell this one)------Hello I do wish I can speak Japanese as well as I can speak english, no maybe better |
2007-04-18, 14:31 | Link #619 |
Dansa med oss
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky
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It's not what you're thinking, I promise
It's actually 'dentaata.' And there'd be a 'ku' on the end instead of 'ta' if it were 'tentacle.' Although something along those lines did cross my mind If all else fails, I'll just render it phonetically and wait for someone to complain |
2007-04-18, 15:15 | Link #620 |
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Ouch >_<
My bad... after the first part of the word my brain probably entered a side track to continue processing that word But for once that sidetrack was more or less right. It's still gross when you imagine what it could look like and I'm very good at imagining stuff! Sometimes what I imagine scares the shit out of me. Not because it's gross, but because I was able to imagine such things. Appearantly it's latin and Vagina Dentata means toothed vagina. It's some kind of goddess. More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina_dentata |
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