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Perfect 10 | 94 | 58.39% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 41 | 25.47% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 10 | 6.21% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 1.86% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 3.11% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 1.24% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 6 | 3.73% | |
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2008-09-05, 20:15 | Link #301 |
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I'm sure there's a more eloquent way of describing Ranka's character, and yes, Ranka's fandom could use a bit more positivity, but as it stands now, Ranka's character is flawed, imperfect and immature, no matter how endearing she is... and I believe this is deliberately done so that she would grow out of this. Ranka's time to blossom will come; in fact, we've already seen signs of this in her last resigned confession in Episode 21, when she realized she has to let go of Alto in order to move forward. (I have my own qualms about her leaving Frontier, but that's another story. )
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2008-09-05, 20:18 | Link #302 |
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You realize some people might be calling Ranka immature, not because of the shipping wars but because she was well...immature in the episode? People will have opinions on characters in their individual capacity without regards to the pairings. Not everyone of course, but some. Like I might think Alto is a dense, boring angsty moron (ha....actually that's pretty close to the truth), even though I am hoping for a Sheryl and Alto end...
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2008-09-05, 20:21 | Link #303 | |
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Debating and bashing are two entirely different things. While I have nothing against Ranka, I will discuss her character flaws. If you call that bashing, you've a very slim definition of such.
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2008-09-05, 20:29 | Link #305 | ||
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If what you say isn't bashing then why would the "truth hurt me" as you so eloquently put it? I am not saying Ranka is a perfect character without flaws. But she is certainly not the only character in the show with flaws yet hers seem to be the only ones that constantly get scrutinized. Quote:
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2008-09-05, 20:35 | Link #306 | |
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2008-09-05, 20:40 | Link #308 | |
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Then she had Berera jumped out of nowhere threatening his life and then asking Ranka what her desire was, while Ranka was just standing there. You know, no matter how I look at it, that is just ... a total snafu. - Tak
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2008-09-05, 20:43 | Link #309 | ||
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2008-09-05, 20:46 | Link #310 |
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@ Kirarakim
Truth hurts because sometimes its not what you want to hear. Discussions wont always be in your favor and sometimes you may consider it bashing... even if its backed up by a very convincing debate supported by facts. Anyway, I'll let you decide what you consider bashing as opposed to debate. And by all means, if you feel that Ranka is being over-scrutinized, feel free to add to the discussion and scrutinize other characters or defend her instead of complain about such. Episode 21, has already been discussed in depth here.
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2008-09-05, 20:46 | Link #311 | |
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Why can't she choose a place where they can be alone? - Tak
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2008-09-05, 20:53 | Link #312 | ||
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2008-09-05, 20:54 | Link #313 | |
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I actually didn't have an issue with Ranka this episode. I mean, she was barely in it...nothing really to say about her. To be fair, I don't think she ordered Brera to do anything. He shadowed her as usual and he chose to jump in and be aggressive towards Alto. He hit Alto once and that was it. Brera did draw his knife, but considering what an idiot Alto (remember that time he charged Brera in the class room) is I think Brera was just doing that to make sure Alto behaved. Alto wasn't in any immediate danger...I think if Brera really looked like he was going to harm Alto, Ranka would have said something.
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2008-09-05, 21:02 | Link #314 | |
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Oddly enough I do believe that scene marked the end of Ranka/Alto but it has nothing to do with Ranka's personality flaws. I do think Ranka had an ideal of Alto that was not the real Alto and I think she realized this by the end of the episode. But as you said Ranka was barely in this episode so why is her immaturity and character flaws being brought up once again? It just gets tiresome. |
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2008-09-05, 21:11 | Link #315 |
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With the ai-kun thing....I don't know, I suppose you could say she was behaving irresponsibly because she is running away with Ai-kun when she agreed to protect the people of Frontier with her song. She is shirking her duties. Of course, I don't hold it against her cause I know Grace and Leon are just using her for some nasty scheme....so anything that throws a wrench in that is ok in my book. And I like ai-kun. Ai-kun FTW!
But thing is, she doesn't know their plans. The only thing she knows is that her songs help them fight the Vajra and protect Frontier and now she is leaving Frontier to fend for itself. But despite that irresponsibility, I do think she is mature in that when it came down to it she finally let go of Alto. She wasn't clinging on to him and his words to help her make a decision for once. Despite his obvious disapproval she followed through with her plan.
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2008-09-05, 21:25 | Link #316 |
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I find it funny that people call Ranka, who is a TEENAGER, Immature.... of course she is! I find it also funny that people get mad because they call her immature. I find the most ludicrous that they say that Ranka doesn't deserve Alto because she is Immature! I wonder why they don't call Alto immature. the only mature person in the love triangle was Sheryl, but when you go through what she went, I guess you mature fast, plus being a famous singer help you too.
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2008-09-05, 22:16 | Link #317 | |
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Nobody is saying she doesn't "deserve" Alto, but that that her immaturity really shines when she's around him and that she'll never be able to mature if she continued to rely on him for everything. Same thing with Alto, he acts immature at times but Sheryl actually challenges him in some way. Alto x Ranka is not an equal relationship no matter how you slice it. Most Ranka fans will even admit that much. How the hell did she get brought up anwyay? She wasn't even in the episode for any amount of time. I enjoyed the lack of her tbh. |
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2008-09-05, 22:43 | Link #318 |
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Well okay I said my piece so moving on: Sheryl's illness
Personally I think they will find a cure (and the Vajra or Ranka will be the key). It's a common ploy in storytelling to introduce something with no answer (such as an incurable disease) only to find that answer in the end. At this point it wouldn't be surprising if Sheryl dies because we expect her to based on everything that has been said in the story. The surprise will come when they find the cure. |
2008-09-05, 23:01 | Link #319 | |
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Not saying that 17 years old that act like her can't exist, but she is strangely mature for her age indeed. And I guess it's one of the things that make her such a likeable character anyway, would everyone have liked her so much if she acted in a more childish way? About the scene between Sheryl and Alto: errr dunno, if they kissed that's nice but I'm not really expecting them to have done anything more because Sheryl knows how her disease gets trasmitted o_o After she did so much for Alto's sake would she be so irresponsible to risk infecting him? If she did something like that it would feel a bit out of character for me honestly (and before anyone says they could use protection, even then in her place would you still take the chance of infecting him, no matter how small it could be? I wouldn't D: ) |
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2008-09-06, 00:07 | Link #320 | |
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