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physics223 · 2009-02-25, 03:13

I started watching Spice and Wolf after seeing its OP with a 1080p BD-rip of it. I finished the first episode, and I love it so far. A lot of people discourage me, saying that it's all just about Horo and economics (and I don't really mind, actually), but is there also a love story in the background between Lawrence and Horo? I'd assume it would be ultimately tragic, but I do hope that they hook up sooner or later - at least those were my vibes after seeing the first episode. (I'm a romantic.)

So, I don't want the entirety of the novels spoiled to me, but can someone elaborate on scenes where I can at least say I'm right or altogether say I'm wrong? I mean I'd think romantic feelings would develop after a while, especially with the dynamic of Horo and Lawrence.

Thanks.

Kaguya · 2009-02-25, 05:32

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Originally Posted by physics223

I started watching Spice and Wolf after seeing its OP with a 1080p BD-rip of it. I finished the first episode, and I love it so far. A lot of people discourage me, saying that it's all just about Horo and economics (and I don't really mind, actually), but is there also a love story in the background between Lawrence and Horo? I'd assume it would be ultimately tragic, but I do hope that they hook up sooner or later - at least those were my vibes after seeing the first episode. (I'm a romantic.)

So, I don't want the entirety of the novels spoiled to me, but can someone elaborate on scenes where I can at least say I'm right or altogether say I'm wrong? I mean I'd think romantic feelings would develop after a while, especially with the dynamic of Horo and Lawrence.

Thanks.

Well, the story of Vol.1-Vol.5 seems to be the love story before the marriage which you mean. (Probably, it is a PG-13 RATING.)
Since Horo can read the mind of Lawrence, a little unlike normal love, it seems to be a psychological warfare.
But their relation after Vol.6 is developed like a married couple.
They understand that the day when they separate some day comes.
So, they are daring to try not to have a relation deeply.

The remainder is about three volumes until the end.
Although there is no telling what happens to the relation between Horo and Lawrence, the author has said that he makes it the happy end which he thinks of.

RampagingEvangelion · 2009-02-25, 12:35

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Originally Posted by Kaguya

Well, the story of Vol.1-Vol.5 seems to be the love story before the marriage which you mean.

Eh? W-w-was that a spoiler? They get married?

Also, the author said he is going for the happy ending? That'd be nice.

salv87 · 2009-02-25, 12:48

nah I don't think they get married, it says "seems" ^_^ plus Kaguya mentions later "like a married couple." Furthermore I doubt such a spoiler would be left without the spoiler tags.

physics223 · 2009-02-25, 13:00

I just read a chapter of Volume 7.

Spoiler:

RampagingEvangelion · 2009-02-25, 13:27

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Originally Posted by salv87

nah I don't think they get married, it says "seems" ^_^ plus Kaguya mentions later "like a married couple." Furthermore I doubt such a spoiler would be left without the spoiler tags.

Oops, I read that wrong. My bad.

physics223 · 2009-02-25, 13:41

I have, however, only read of that chapter. I haven't read anything else from the Spice and Wolf novels, and have contented myself waiting for better things to come in Spice and Wolf's second season. If there's anything good to be expected from S&W, it's because of the fact that the producers decide not to rush through the evocative and rich source material.

Plus, I can await a new and equally beautiful OP, can't I!?

Vexx · 2009-02-25, 14:50

Its a long journey of the road with a few adventures and a lot of wonderful witty verbal sparring -- somewhat like the romantic comedies of the 1950s (Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn, think of that). The progression of their relationship is very mature (as in actually grown up rather than hormonal frenzy teenage stuff).

I enjoyed the hell out of the anime and love reading the novels.

physics223 · 2009-02-25, 15:15

I love those movies. I thought Philadelphia Story was great, and so was Roman Holiday. In fact I admired the mature ending of those, especially with Roman Holiday. So, Vexx, aside from that incident, could you provide certain highlights (in spoiler tags, of course) where Horo shows her affections towards Lawrence? Or did that merely start from there?

(Also, I'm nowhere near 51, but I can appreciate good stories when I do see them.

)

Vexx · 2009-02-25, 17:52

Assuming you've just seen the first episode.... there are two "adventures of a sort in the series and the end of each are classic Grant/Hepburn sort of moments. There's also at least a few minutes of superb "verbal dancing" at least once in most episodes And sometimes its just a look, suddenly holding hands, etc.

Okay, now I need to rewatch the series -- so many of the other series this season have crashed for me, I've got a bit of time.

Blank-Mage · 2009-02-25, 18:49

Episode one was great, but you don't really get to see Horo's character until about halfway through the season. (season 1 is 13 episodes, by the way.) Even then, keep in mind that Horo and Lawerence's relationship isn't something that happens overnight. But that's what makes it awesome, right?

physics223 · 2009-02-25, 19:18

You mean that the episode of chapter 7 was the first time Horo showed her affections for Lawrence?

And yes, I love slice-of-life and characters that realistically develop through time, which was why I was ... besotted ... with the series.

Blank-Mage · 2009-02-26, 00:59

And you said you'd only seen episode one. Man, you're fast.

RampagingEvangelion · 2009-02-26, 14:35

Wait, maybe I missed it before but was Volume 6 Chapter 1 8% complete a week ago?

Tri-ring · 2009-03-09, 01:05

I just finished reading volume 10.
In the end there was a hint that the journey will go further.

Spoiler for Volume 10:

judgment26 · 2009-03-09, 11:22

Been a long time since my last update, since my business has been keeping me busy, even during winter break, but finally, the third section of Vol. 4 Chap. 5 is done. Enjoy!

And I've noticed it too, Eva. Someone recently decided to join in and help to translate Vol. 6.

RampagingEvangelion · 2009-03-09, 12:10

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Originally Posted by judgment26

Been a long time since my last update, since my business has been keeping me busy, even during winter break, but finally, the third section of Vol. 4 Chap. 5 is done. Enjoy!

And I've noticed it too, Eva. Someone recently decided to join in and help to translate Vol. 6.

Thanks a lot judgment, kudos for you!

Wow, it jumped from 35% to 91%, big part, eh?

Also, whoever is doing volume six is moving along quite nicely. A medium sized prologue and 35% of chapter 01 are done. I don't know who's doing it, but I'm sure happy about it!

EDIT: Just finished reading the part; good section.

Blank-Mage · 2009-03-09, 19:47

91%? AGH, SO CLOSE! (Although I'd forgotten to check, what with the craziness in Naruto. I swear if

Spoiler for this happens,:

I will be depressed forever.)

judgment26 · 2009-03-09, 21:50

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Originally Posted by RampagingEvangelion

Thanks a lot judgment, kudos for you!

Wow, it jumped from 35% to 91%, big part, eh?

Also, whoever is doing volume six is moving along quite nicely. A medium sized prologue and 35% of chapter 01 are done. I don't know who's doing it, but I'm sure happy about it!

EDIT: Just finished reading the part; good section.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blank-Mage

91%? AGH, SO CLOSE! (Although I'd forgotten to check, what with the craziness in Naruto. I swear if

Spoiler for this happens,:

I will be depressed forever.)

Yeah, this past section forms the bulk of chapter 5, and the last section is barely four pages, so it should be done shortly.

And in response to Mage:

Spoiler for Naruto:

barbsicle · 2009-03-11, 09:03

i've been watching the thread for awhile. haha.

apologies for my disappearance. i've been here and around (you can ask salv and judgment). volume 2 is being worked on, but only bits here and there so far. i'll be slightly freer in the coming days so i will release quite quickly once i get to doing it. hopefully.

so let's hope i can do this.

Barbs

2009-02-25, 03:13	Link #541
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	I started watching Spice and Wolf after seeing its OP with a 1080p BD-rip of it. I finished the first episode, and I love it so far. A lot of people discourage me, saying that it's all just about Horo and economics (and I don't really mind, actually), but is there also a love story in the background between Lawrence and Horo? I'd assume it would be ultimately tragic, but I do hope that they hook up sooner or later - at least those were my vibes after seeing the first episode. (I'm a romantic.) So, I don't want the entirety of the novels spoiled to me, but can someone elaborate on scenes where I can at least say I'm right or altogether say I'm wrong? I mean I'd think romantic feelings would develop after a while, especially with the dynamic of Horo and Lawrence. Thanks. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2009-02-25, 13:00	Link #545
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	I just read a chapter of Volume 7. Spoiler: Horo's affections for Lawrence is *very, very* obvious already. She even doubts her wisdom, and she alludes to a major affliction ... Spoiler: It's called love. <3 __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2009-02-25, 13:41	Link #547
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	I have, however, only read of that chapter. I haven't read anything else from the Spice and Wolf novels, and have contented myself waiting for better things to come in Spice and Wolf's second season. If there's anything good to be expected from S&W, it's because of the fact that the producers decide not to rush through the evocative and rich source material. Plus, I can await a new and equally beautiful OP, can't I!? __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2009-02-25, 14:50	Link #548
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Its a long journey of the road with a few adventures and a lot of wonderful witty verbal sparring -- somewhat like the romantic comedies of the 1950s (Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn, think of that). The progression of their relationship is very mature (as in actually grown up rather than hormonal frenzy teenage stuff). I enjoyed the hell out of the anime and love reading the novels. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2009-02-25, 15:15	Link #549
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	I love those movies. I thought Philadelphia Story was great, and so was Roman Holiday. In fact I admired the mature ending of those, especially with Roman Holiday. So, Vexx, aside from that incident, could you provide certain highlights (in spoiler tags, of course) where Horo shows her affections towards Lawrence? Or did that merely start from there? (Also, I'm nowhere near 51, but I can appreciate good stories when I do see them. ) __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2009-02-25, 12:48	Link #544
salv87 Can't think of a title^_^ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lithuania Age: 36	nah I don't think they get married, it says "seems" ^_^ plus Kaguya mentions later "like a married couple." Furthermore I doubt such a spoiler would be left without the spoiler tags.

2009-02-25, 17:52	Link #550
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Assuming you've just seen the first episode.... there are two "adventures of a sort in the series and the end of each are classic Grant/Hepburn sort of moments. There's also at least a few minutes of superb "verbal dancing" at least once in most episodes And sometimes its just a look, suddenly holding hands, etc. Okay, now I need to rewatch the series -- so many of the other series this season have crashed for me, I've got a bit of time. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2009-02-25, 18:49	Link #551
Blank-Mage Maniacal laughter ensues. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: My own delusions of grandeur. Age: 35	Episode one was great, but you don't really get to see Horo's character until about halfway through the season. (season 1 is 13 episodes, by the way.) Even then, keep in mind that Horo and Lawerence's relationship isn't something that happens overnight. But that's what makes it awesome, right? __________________

2009-02-25, 19:18	Link #552
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	You mean that the episode of chapter 7 was the first time Horo showed her affections for Lawrence? And yes, I love slice-of-life and characters that realistically develop through time, which was why I was ... besotted ... with the series. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2009-02-26, 00:59	Link #553
Blank-Mage Maniacal laughter ensues. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: My own delusions of grandeur. Age: 35	And you said you'd only seen episode one. Man, you're fast. __________________

2009-02-26, 14:35	Link #554
RampagingEvangelion Asuka, Asuna, and Horo Join Date: Feb 2008	Wait, maybe I missed it before but was Volume 6 Chapter 1 8% complete a week ago?

2009-03-09, 01:05	Link #555
Tri-ring Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Land of the rising sun	I just finished reading volume 10. In the end there was a hint that the journey will go further. Spoiler for Volume 10: Lawrence, Horo and Col encounters another super natural entity like Horo in this volume.

2009-03-09, 11:22	Link #556
judgment26 Former B-T Translator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Age: 37	Been a long time since my last update, since my business has been keeping me busy, even during winter break, but finally, the third section of Vol. 4 Chap. 5 is done. Enjoy! And I've noticed it too, Eva. Someone recently decided to join in and help to translate Vol. 6.

2009-03-09, 19:47	Link #558
Blank-Mage Maniacal laughter ensues. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: My own delusions of grandeur. Age: 35	91%? AGH, SO CLOSE! (Although I'd forgotten to check, what with the craziness in Naruto. I swear if Spoiler for this happens,: Hinata dies, I will be depressed forever.) __________________

2009-03-11, 09:03	Link #560
barbsicle B-T Translator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SG	i've been watching the thread for awhile. haha. apologies for my disappearance. i've been here and around (you can ask salv and judgment). volume 2 is being worked on, but only bits here and there so far. i'll be slightly freer in the coming days so i will release quite quickly once i get to doing it. hopefully. so let's hope i can do this. Barbs