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Skane · 2006-10-30, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Kikaifan

"Darkness from twilight, crimson from blood that flows/buried in the flow of time/in Thy great name, I pledge myself to darkness! Those who oppose us shall be destroyed by the power you and I possess!"

Wait a minute... I knew it sounded awfully familiar when I read it. That's from Slayers! A spell incantation by Lina Inverse!

Narf!

Kikaifan · 2006-10-30, 00:47

Darn. I was hoping it would last a little longer before getting ID'ed.

haiz123321 · 2006-10-30, 03:16

she may be a support specialist or maybe just balanced and healing+support like someone said just now but whats the diff between the intellegience device and reinforce? besides that shes a tome

Kikaifan · 2006-10-30, 03:28

She's described as a 'Unison Device' and the terminology is never explicitly explained.

By comparison, Bardiche and Raising Heart are 'intelligent devices' Laevateinn and Graf Eisen are 'armed devices' and TSAB staves are 'storage devices.' Even though Bardiche is made for close combat and has a Velkan cartridge system it's still not called an armed device, so I wonder if there's a remaining difference in their construction or nature, or if it's just a cultural thing.

The obvious explanation for 'Unison Device' would be that the corrupted Book of Darkness and Hayate's Reinforce (small) both combine with the user and alter their body as their method for enabling their powers. It isn't clear what advantages or disadvantages, if any, this presents compared to the different weapon formats.

kari-no-sugata · 2006-10-30, 05:33

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Originally Posted by Skane

Wait a minute... I knew it sounded awfully familiar when I read it. That's from Slayers! A spell incantation by Lina Inverse!

Specifically, it's for "Drag-Slave" (Or Dragon Slave if you prefer). And yes, I recognised it pretty much instantly

You can get a translation for the chant to Starlight Breaker in ep 10 of Ace's, since Reinforce speaks the lines - she copied it off Nanoha from ep 2. Sounds cooler in Japanese though, if you ask me.

haiz123321 · 2006-10-30, 07:11

wuts a TSAB staff >_< so basically a unison device is something like a tome that contains loads of spells (spellbook) and it can somehow like fuse with the master/mistress to become more powerful? kinda confused here >_<

Miles Teg · 2006-10-30, 08:00

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Originally Posted by Jump

Sorry to interrupt. But I remember someone posting a translation of the Starlight BReaker chant that was really cool. Does anyone still have it?

Taken from episode 10 of A's

I summon the light of destruction down upon my prisoners.
Stars, gather and become the light which pierces everything
tear through everything in a blaze of light.
Starlight Breaker.

Skyfall · 2006-10-30, 12:07

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Originally Posted by haiz123321

wuts a TSAB staff >_<

Time-Space Administration Bureau staff

Kikaifan · 2006-10-30, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by haiz123321

wuts a TSAB staff >_< so basically a unison device is something like a tome that contains loads of spells (spellbook) and it can somehow like fuse with the master/mistress to become more powerful? kinda confused here >_<

Yep, that's pretty much all we know. Instead of forming a physical weapon to channel power, it fuses with the user and uses their body as its form.

aldw · 2006-10-30, 16:06

Will Kyouya and Miyuki show up later in StrikerS? It would be interesting to see them in action.

KJlost · 2006-10-30, 17:26

Spoiler:

Oh sh-!

Shikimori Kazuki · 2006-10-30, 17:43

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Originally Posted by KJlost

Oh sh-!

I recommend maybe...spoiler tag it? you know...that could be in StrikerS and we dont know whats even coming in. If is fake..sure I dont mind seeing it. But seeing it kinda spoil it what there is to come.

KJlost · 2006-10-30, 18:43

As far as I know, the comic is supposed to take place between the A's and StrikerS, so should not spoil anyone, but I'll do it anyway.

Deathkillz · 2006-10-30, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Shikimori Kazuki

I recommend maybe...spoiler tag it? you know...that could be in StrikerS and we dont know whats even coming in. If is fake..sure I dont mind seeing it. But seeing it kinda spoil it what there is to come.

you should spoiler tag your quote too

but yea the word that springs to mind is SH*T!

kari-no-sugata · 2006-10-30, 19:49

Those images have already been posted in the manga thread. Eg:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...1&postcount=38
(except, with the dialogue)

What is shown is a flashback, incidentally.

KJlost · 2006-10-30, 20:05

Oh shoot, didn't see the manga thread.

Ranko · 2006-10-31, 11:45

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Originally Posted by Kikaifan

Darn. I was hoping it would last a little longer before getting ID'ed.

honestly most anime fans should beable to id it with the first part.

also i'm still working on my Lyrical Rpg Magical BESM, but i'm wondering if people have any ideas for the ranking system within the TSAB?

Kikaifan · 2006-10-31, 12:41

It'd be a lot easier if they'd ever given Chrono a rank, since he had a clear position...

So the pattern for the Asura is a Captain with an operations staff and a Head Enforcer with a detachment of marines, who were also used for investigative legwork during A's. A's-to-StrikerS makes it sound like the investigative branch is distinct from the marines, so either the enforcers specialize between combat and investigative duty but belong to the same units, or the Asura only had marines and was forced to make-do with them.

Obviously Graham is an Admiral of the Fleet and Lindy is a Captain (in the first season). I'd guess that Chrono is a Commander, Amy is a Lieutenant-Commander, and Alex is either a Lieutenant or Sub-Lieutenant.

Because there appears to be no regular army and their marines operate in small detachments on individual ships, I think it's likely that the Enforcers don't have an extensive rank system. A ship's detachment leader is a naval Commander or Lieutenant-Commander, and squad leaders equivalent to Lieutenant or Sub-Lieutenant. The rest would just be 'Enforcers,' perhaps with some code for specialization.

I went with British naval ranks since Graham is English, but obviously the TSAB predates him so it's just a stylistic choice...

npal · 2006-10-31, 12:46

Well, Chrono was promoted to a pretty obvious position by the end of A's, and I suppose Amy's rank also rose accordingly although her job is the same apparently. I can't remember if they specifically called him with a rank.

Bloodseeker · 2006-10-31, 18:30

I can't check right now (I've got to leave as soon as I'm done making this post, but I'm pretty sure that they called both Lindey and Chrono admirals and Yuuno was the head librarian.

2006-10-30, 00:47	Link #722
Kikaifan Blazing General Join Date: May 2006 Location: CA Age: 37	Darn. I was hoping it would last a little longer before getting ID'ed. __________________

2006-10-30, 03:16	Link #723
haiz123321 Obey me world! Join Date: Jul 2006	she may be a support specialist or maybe just balanced and healing+support like someone said just now but whats the diff between the intellegience device and reinforce? besides that shes a tome __________________ Long Live Lelouch! Waiting for Tales of the World:RM2 USA release

2006-10-30, 03:28	Link #724
Kikaifan Blazing General Join Date: May 2006 Location: CA Age: 37	She's described as a 'Unison Device' and the terminology is never explicitly explained. By comparison, Bardiche and Raising Heart are 'intelligent devices' Laevateinn and Graf Eisen are 'armed devices' and TSAB staves are 'storage devices.' Even though Bardiche is made for close combat and has a Velkan cartridge system it's still not called an armed device, so I wonder if there's a remaining difference in their construction or nature, or if it's just a cultural thing. The obvious explanation for 'Unison Device' would be that the corrupted Book of Darkness and Hayate's Reinforce (small) both combine with the user and alter their body as their method for enabling their powers. It isn't clear what advantages or disadvantages, if any, this presents compared to the different weapon formats. __________________

2006-10-30, 07:11	Link #726
haiz123321 Obey me world! Join Date: Jul 2006	wuts a TSAB staff >_< so basically a unison device is something like a tome that contains loads of spells (spellbook) and it can somehow like fuse with the master/mistress to become more powerful? kinda confused here >_< __________________ Long Live Lelouch! Waiting for Tales of the World:RM2 USA release

2006-10-30, 17:26	Link #731
KJlost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Spoiler: Oh sh-! Last edited by KJlost; 2006-10-30 at 18:43.

2006-10-30, 16:06	Link #730
aldw Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004	Will Kyouya and Miyuki show up later in StrikerS? It would be interesting to see them in action.

2006-10-30, 18:43	Link #733
KJlost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	As far as I know, the comic is supposed to take place between the A's and StrikerS, so should not spoil anyone, but I'll do it anyway.

2006-10-30, 19:49	Link #735
kari-no-sugata Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Those images have already been posted in the manga thread. Eg: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...1&postcount=38 (except, with the dialogue) What is shown is a flashback, incidentally.

2006-10-30, 20:05	Link #736
KJlost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Oh shoot, didn't see the manga thread.

2006-10-31, 12:41	Link #738
Kikaifan Blazing General Join Date: May 2006 Location: CA Age: 37	It'd be a lot easier if they'd ever given Chrono a rank, since he had a clear position... So the pattern for the Asura is a Captain with an operations staff and a Head Enforcer with a detachment of marines, who were also used for investigative legwork during A's. A's-to-StrikerS makes it sound like the investigative branch is distinct from the marines, so either the enforcers specialize between combat and investigative duty but belong to the same units, or the Asura only had marines and was forced to make-do with them. Obviously Graham is an Admiral of the Fleet and Lindy is a Captain (in the first season). I'd guess that Chrono is a Commander, Amy is a Lieutenant-Commander, and Alex is either a Lieutenant or Sub-Lieutenant. Because there appears to be no regular army and their marines operate in small detachments on individual ships, I think it's likely that the Enforcers don't have an extensive rank system. A ship's detachment leader is a naval Commander or Lieutenant-Commander, and squad leaders equivalent to Lieutenant or Sub-Lieutenant. The rest would just be 'Enforcers,' perhaps with some code for specialization. I went with British naval ranks since Graham is English, but obviously the TSAB predates him so it's just a stylistic choice... __________________

2006-10-31, 12:46	Link #739
npal I desire Tomorrow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: As far away from reality as possible Age: 41	Well, Chrono was promoted to a pretty obvious position by the end of A's, and I suppose Amy's rank also rose accordingly although her job is the same apparently. I can't remember if they specifically called him with a rank. __________________

2006-10-31, 18:30	Link #740
Bloodseeker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	I can't check right now (I've got to leave as soon as I'm done making this post, but I'm pretty sure that they called both Lindey and Chrono admirals and Yuuno was the head librarian.