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Rising Dragon · 2008-08-14, 04:27

Where did all of this "Suzaku's abilities are supernatural" bit come from, anyway? Physically, he's displayed nothing my karate trainers aren't capable of doing. Right down to the spinzaku kick.

Dream_Traveller · 2008-08-14, 04:27

I think he's referring to the dropped plotline that linked Suzaku to Geass...it was toyed with in R1, but ultimately abandoned to focus on the bigger picture.

Orga777 · 2008-08-14, 04:28

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Where did all of this "Suzaku's abilities are supernatural" bit come from, anyway? Physically, he's displayed nothing my karate trainers aren't capable of doing. Right down to the spinzaku kick.

Including out running a machine gun with .05 reaction time, running up a wall, and kicking it off the ceiling?

Rising Dragon · 2008-08-14, 04:29

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I think he's referring to the dropped plotline that linked Suzaku to Geass...it was toyed with in R1, but ultimately abandoned to focus on the bigger picture.

I know what he's talking about, but where'd it come from? People talk about it all the time and call it hax, when really, all it is is karate, which he got from Toudou, supplemented with combat training, which he got from the military. There's nothing "unnatural" about it.

Dream_Traveller · 2008-08-14, 04:30

Well, there is the example provided by Orga...karate aside, no-one can do what Suzaku did to that turret, honestly. Or very few can, but note the reaction time.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2008-08-14, 04:30

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Where did all of this "Suzaku's abilities are supernatural" bit come from, anyway? Physically, he's displayed nothing my karate trainers aren't capable of doing. Right down to the spinzaku kick.

Sunrise told us. This is back in season 1, when they were giving out spoilers on the internet to generate interest.

And if your karate trainers can out-run a machine gun and wall-run, they should be in the Olympics right now.

Orga777 · 2008-08-14, 04:33

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Likely even that--he's not a black belt for nothing and has kicked me across a room. It takes a lot, but since Suzaku's been trained since childhood, its not all that unbelievable.

I don't think you understand how fast .05 really is then. Seriously, that is in MICROSECONDS. It is IMPOSSIBLE to dodge the way he did.

Rising Dragon · 2008-08-14, 04:33

Okay, yeah, after rewatching the scene, that looks unnatural. But everything else he's displayed are pretty natural.

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I don't think you understand how fast .05 really is then. Seriously, that is in MICROSECONDS. It is IMPOSSIBLE to dodge the way he did.

More like its been a while since I saw the scene and it seemed a lot slower last time I watched it. Which is why I went back and removed that half of the post.

Dream_Traveller · 2008-08-14, 04:36

Hm, I'm still not sure about his first showing of Spinzaku...the way he flew across half the room rounding up his strike before he actually did it.

Rising Dragon · 2008-08-14, 04:37

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Hm, I'm still not sure about his first showing of Spinzaku...the way he flew across half the room rounding up his strike before he actually did it.

I wish that was unnatural, but I've seen that done before.

pitadotcom · 2008-08-14, 04:40

maybe suzaku is a newtype lol

ZeroSama · 2008-08-14, 04:40

A little information would be nice though. I mean it took them all of one EP to tie up C.C.'s past so half an Ep or even a flash back would be nice.

They have done a good job of tying up the loose ends so far so i hope we get some explanation for it at least.

bladeofdarkness · 2008-08-14, 04:40

actually his skills being of a supernatural origin has been hinted in C.C saying that it might have something to do with him being able to sense her (among other things)
and his spinzaku kick has been around since ep 1 (he even does it in the lancelot)

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2008-08-14, 04:41

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I wish that was unnatural, but I've seen that done before.

The whole point about Suzaku, is that he HAS unnatural physical skills, but he rarely needed to show any more than what an ordinary person can do.

It has to be kept that way, because whatever "big reveal" Suzaku is going to do at the end of the series has to be kept a secret until then.

There is a reason Sunrise claim a combined team of Suzaku and Lulu with his Geass is invincible; Suzaku is that powerful.

All we know is that Suzaku is a human. So he isn't an android or an alien. Otherthan that Sunrise is keeping their mouths shut and not telling us any more.

Dream_Traveller · 2008-08-14, 04:41

Yes, but again- the plotline relating Suzaku to Geass was dropped. There probably won't be any explanation. To ZeroSama and blade here.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2008-08-14, 04:42

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Yes, but again- the plotline relating Suzaku to Geass was dropped. There probably won't be any explanation.

Who said it was dropped? Source?

Orga777 · 2008-08-14, 04:44

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Yes, but again- the plotline relating Suzaku to Geass was dropped. There probably won't be any explanation. To ZeroSama and blade here.

Um, why? There are still seven episodes left and it won't take long to explain it. Less than one episode. There is no evidence that it was dropped either. First, we haven't seen that much of him in R2. Second, he doesn't know about it himself. They can't possibly leave it hanging. It will be explained sooner or later. Most likely near the end I would say.

Rising Dragon · 2008-08-14, 04:44

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The whole point about Suzaku, is that he HAS unnatural physical skills, but he rarely needed to show any more than what an ordinary person can do.

It has to be kept that way, because whatever "big reveal" Suzaku is going to do at the end of the series has to be kept a secret until then.

There is a reason Sunrise claim a combined team of Suzaku and Lulu with his Geass is invincible; Suzaku is that powerful.

All we know is that Suzaku is a human. So he isn't an android or an alien. Otherthan that Sunrise is keeping their mouths shut and not telling us any more.

I was just referring to the one kick he did on Lelouch in R2 ep. 2, that I know is physically possible as I've seen it done before. I'm not denying his abilities anymore, I'm just saying they can't be supernatural except for the one kick the turret bit.

bladeofdarkness · 2008-08-14, 04:45

yes
but until it was dropped they let him do some pretty awesome shit
once dropped he was made just one more super ace among others rather then an avatar of mecha combat

Dream_Traveller · 2008-08-14, 04:45

Well, ever since...hm, well, Stage 19, and 22 when he was able to see C.C.'s astral projection...whatever, his connection hasn't been brought up since then. It's safe to assume the plotline was abandoned by Taniguchi and Okouchi themselves. My opinion, but honestly, with things like the betrayal of the BKs at hand, Ragnarok and other things, how will they solve this when it's been practically deserted?

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Where did all of this "Suzaku's abilities are supernatural" bit come from, anyway? Physically, he's displayed nothing my karate trainers aren't capable of doing. Right down to the spinzaku kick. __________________

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bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	actually his skills being of a supernatural origin has been hinted in C.C saying that it might have something to do with him being able to sense her (among other things) and his spinzaku kick has been around since ep 1 (he even does it in the lancelot) __________________

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bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	yes but until it was dropped they let him do some pretty awesome shit once dropped he was made just one more super ace among others rather then an avatar of mecha combat __________________

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Dream_Traveller Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	I think he's referring to the dropped plotline that linked Suzaku to Geass...it was toyed with in R1, but ultimately abandoned to focus on the bigger picture.

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Dream_Traveller Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	Well, there is the example provided by Orga...karate aside, no-one can do what Suzaku did to that turret, honestly. Or very few can, but note the reaction time.

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Dream_Traveller Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	Hm, I'm still not sure about his first showing of Spinzaku...the way he flew across half the room rounding up his strike before he actually did it.

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pitadotcom i like junior members.... Join Date: Sep 2007	maybe suzaku is a newtype lol

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ZeroSama All Hail Lelouch! Author Join Date: May 2008 Location: In His Majesties Service. Age: 40	A little information would be nice though. I mean it took them all of one EP to tie up C.C.'s past so half an Ep or even a flash back would be nice. They have done a good job of tying up the loose ends so far so i hope we get some explanation for it at least.

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Dream_Traveller Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	Yes, but again- the plotline relating Suzaku to Geass was dropped. There probably won't be any explanation. To ZeroSama and blade here.

2008-08-14, 04:45	Link #13080
Dream_Traveller Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	Well, ever since...hm, well, Stage 19, and 22 when he was able to see C.C.'s astral projection...whatever, his connection hasn't been brought up since then. It's safe to assume the plotline was abandoned by Taniguchi and Okouchi themselves. My opinion, but honestly, with things like the betrayal of the BKs at hand, Ragnarok and other things, how will they solve this when it's been practically deserted?