2012-08-14, 14:59 | Link #1283 | ||
Sharing my world thru art
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2012-08-14, 15:20 | Link #1284 |
Unleashing the Homu-Rage
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*Facepalms* Self, I am disappoint!
Sorry for making such a stupid mistake. Gets confusing with so many male users with female avatars and whatnot, not that my avatar is helping things. Now, back to your regularly scheduled psychological discussion! |
2012-08-14, 16:36 | Link #1286 |
Try me! <3
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Germany
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The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Haertseed does this not for his entertainment (or not only), but rather he primarily does this to actually help them.
The body switching was to have them get to know each other better, and to get them to talk about their issues and help each other overcome them. Then, when he noticed that the gap between Taichi and Iori was so huge it was impossible for them to ever get together by themselves. He then thought up the plan with Iori jumping off the bridge into the water, and then pretended he situation was critical - when in all reality, it wasn't even remotely close to reality. Anyway, the shock served its purpose, and we finally have Taichi and Iori talk about their feelings. However, once the truth was revealed and the shock faded, both instantly went back to their previous states, as if nothing had happened. Even wwith Heartseed helping out and having them talk with each other (which they wouldn't have doen otherwise), nothing resulted from the talk. As such, Iori are a hopeless couple with no chance of getting anywhere, despite Heartseed pushing. Before Iori can have a relationship with anyone, she needs to find herself first - and it looks like that will be still a long way. Aoki and Yui have a *much* greater chance of getting together. Aoki doesn't have any problems like Taichi has with is extreme shyness, and Yui is already starting to overcome her androphobia. The "kick in the nads" method helped, and I think that her beating up those guys will help her as well. Not right away, but in the long run, where she'll realise that her fear is totally baseless,and she can easily hold herself against men. Inaba really needs to act out her desires. Heartseed let her act out her desire already once. Now she needs to make a conscious decision to act it out by herself. She, too, needs to stop being a "selfless freak" and start thinking of herself, rather than trying to bring a couple together which doesn't have any hope whatsoever right from the beginning. She needs more self-esteem and trust in *herself*, especially. Nice, but not near as good as it could be. We need a figure where Inaban is prowling across the table, coming to pounce at you Any links would be much appreciated
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2012-08-14, 16:43 | Link #1287 | |
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Discussing the show based on what we get so far is okay of course. That’s the point of this thread and that’s what I’ve also been doing.
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2012-08-14, 17:14 | Link #1288 | ||
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Inaba's trust problem stems from self-loathing. She regards herself as flawed and pathetic, and utterly unworthy to be trusted or loved. She thinks it's her nature to doubt people because she is despicable to begin, her "true self", one that she fears people would find out. With that sort of self esteem, how would she trust others when she can't even accept or trust herself? Also, do remember that even though she instinctively distrust others, her rationality still enables her to trust people because she genuinely wants to believe in them. However, she'd never believe in herself, not the slightest. Anyway, I'd like to point out that we can argue all day long about which issues stems form which, so I'd rather treat them as two separate, equally weighted traits that complements each other. It makes the logic a lot simpler to understand. Also note that "trust issue" would only be a correct description if you include Inaba herself in it. I find many arguments calling her out for "not-trusting-others-problem", which in my opinion, is less than half of the whole picture and gives off a false impression of her as a haughty, self-centered prick. Truth is, she's not. She's always placing others before herself. So you're entirely correct that she's pretty much Taichi 2.0 but in a more passive sense. Lastly, since you brought up Inaba being the level-headed rational type, I kinda want to throw it out there that, being rational allows her to think about things in many different perspectives, good and bad. Here's the problem: Having a negative self esteem and emotionally sensitives, she easily starts seeing the negatives a lot more than the positives. Uh-oh. She gets herself stuck in a loop with negative outcomes. Generally speaking, Inaba is cool and rational by nature but emotionally sensitive (further amplified by being a normal teenager), which resulted in her irrational self loathing and fear of hurting others, as well as instinctive second thoughts about believing in others. She's absolutely shameless about her erotic secrets though, I might add. Quote:
I'm sure you'd find snippets of them floating around in any one of those booru sites. I mean... they get uploaded sooner than any other ones... *facepalm* Last edited by Lantern; 2012-08-14 at 18:16. |
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2012-08-14, 18:45 | Link #1289 | |
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For example, I hate Taichi's messianic archetype and the fact that he resembles a typical dating sim protagonist. If later episodes challenge this interpretation of mine, then fine, but before then, I'm holding on to my view. It's certainly a valid one.
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2012-08-14, 19:05 | Link #1290 |
Black Steel Knight
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Location: Indonesia
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That is an opinion and that in itself is okay. Plus, you’re actually open to a future development possibility, which is fine too. Still, if it’s up to me, I won’t say a comment like “this show sucks coz some characters are not developed at all!” until the show itself is over. That kinda statement in itself is a premature conclusion which is not valid (yet).
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2012-08-14, 19:23 | Link #1291 | |
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(For myself, I had this concept of politeness so drilled into me as a kid that I'll never even say something "sucks" even after it's done. I'll just explain why I couldn't enjoy it, if anything. "If you can't say something nice..." Well, a topic for another thread.)
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2012-08-14, 20:54 | Link #1293 | ||
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Ah, nice sigs, Jmac ^^.
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2012-08-14, 21:09 | Link #1294 |
Seishu's Ace
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Using a disaster that everyone in the audience knows is coming anyway as an analog for not developing characters for half a series seems like a stretch. Character development is something that should be a relative constant, not something that can be deferred for much of a series and then dumped in. It may still happen but the fact that it hasn't already is a valid point of contention.
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2012-08-14, 21:29 | Link #1296 |
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Okay, I need an Inaba-chan gif signature, preferable showing the mischievous side to her personality. Would like it if it uses a gray tone for the Kokoro Connect logo, and uses 稲葉 姫子 instead of the romanization of her name.
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2012-08-14, 21:37 | Link #1297 | |
Black Steel Knight
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Location: Indonesia
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For example: If a person walks out after seeing the first part of Wolverine and then gives conclusion “the movie is great coz there are no plot holes and consistently smart!”, will that be valid? Just FYI: I'm not blindly love this series. I too have suspicions that the male characters won't get decent development even after the series ended, but I try to think more objective and reserve my judgement on chara development until the show is over.
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