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That said, that's hardly the same as being so realistic that it rivals real life. Quote:
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2012-12-18, 01:21 | Link #202 | |
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Moving this from the image thread...
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Though it really wouldn't surprise me if Kayaba programmed something like that in there...
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2012-12-18, 01:36 | Link #203 | |
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My perspective was simply from that of a programmer who would have programmed the game (not knowing that people would be trapped, etc.). A few things to consider: Programmers probably didn't program that in because people would be allowed to CHOOSE their own appearance in game. Now, the only way they would be asked to program an aging algorithm is if at the time of "choosing" your appearance in game, you had to choose an "age" to represent yourself as well, such that as you "grow older", whether that be in real life terms or -virtual game- terms, your stats would "mature" in some form or another. Otherwise, your in-game appearance would simply just be what you chose it to be when you first made your avatar. Programmers didn't know people would be trapped, or that their REAL appearances would be forced on display. As such, the only way they would spend time programming such an aging algorithm is if there was an in-game mechanic related to aging...or if Kayaba secretly implemented it himself for pure shits and giggles. [Why did you do that Kayaba? I don't know, I can't seem to remember].
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2012-12-18, 09:32 | Link #204 | |
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I apologize for jumping into your conversation like this. But I thought I'd remind you of something you two might have forgotten.
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2012-12-18, 13:35 | Link #205 | |
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But yeah, no worries man, it's a discussion forum, so all discussion is welcome! Just please read a little bit more next time to factor in our points, thanks :]. edit: Oh and Happy Belated Birthday!
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2012-12-18, 16:26 | Link #206 | |
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Thank you for the belated birthday wish!
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2014-08-06, 11:55 | Link #207 |
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Just tossing this out there.
We know that after the SAO incident none of the actual player killer ever faced justice with the government virtually glossing over it and pushed all legal responsibility of the entire thing onto Kayaba the original creator that trapped everyone in that situation. However Death Gun doesn't have that excuse now so the question still remains If it's proven that Death Gun is somehow killing people in real life via a VRMMO can he be brought up on charges? Would new laws have to be written for his crimes since he isn't even in the same room as his victims?
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2014-08-06, 12:10 | Link #208 | |
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Whatever he is doing it interferes directly with the player, he's not simply killing a character on screen. In fact he isn't killing characters at all. He wasn't even near Zexceed when he died.
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2014-08-06, 12:14 | Link #209 | |
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I don't think new laws would have to be written, because there's already provisions in the law for murders committed without the murderer's presence: By poison, for example, or by disease, or by assassin. The biggest barrier would probably be that a defence team might push for a jury (or lay judge line-up, since this is Japan) of older, less technologically savvy people, so that they could essentially manipulate the jury along the lines of 'well, who could expect this to happen? Nobody, that is who. It is a mystery. A terrible mystery. So mysterious' while the prosecution is essentially fighting against the jury's biases. ... Which, tbf, is something done a lot in trials anyway, especially trials with a large media presence, because the larger a media presence of a trial, the more a defence team can shove and whine to try to get an 'unbiased' jury, which almost always means a jury which is biased in favour of the defendant. N-not that I'm thinking of a specific trial or anything.
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2014-08-07, 07:09 | Link #210 |
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I think the main problem with the SAO PK is that they (and everyone inside the game) had basically no way to obtain tangible proof that killing someone in game would kill them IRL. For all they knew Kayaba could have just told them a lie to scare them.
If prosecuted they could tell that they didn't believe people were dying IRL and there wouldn't be any way to prove the opposite.
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