2013-03-14, 05:37 | Link #201 |
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I am just so surprised that Simcity2013 has actually worse problems than their DRM.
If anything, the DRM issues had obscured the real problem that the game is shallow and buggy, and that it took so long for people to find out because they could barely get their game to work at all.
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2013-03-14, 08:09 | Link #203 |
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Oh, more news. Confirmed that Simcity is entirely offline except for 20 minute timer Java script that kicks you off the game. This means the authentication DRM is a last-minute addition.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/commen...online_forced/ This is the biggest scam I have ever seen from a major developer. Making bad games like C&C 4 is one thing, but to tell nothing but lies is another. The debug mode of the game functions just fine with no internet, so literally there are ZERO calculations handled by EA's servers. Not a little, not some, ZERO. This is a single player game that pretends to be online only. There is still a need to log in online in order to start the offline game. But knowing the game, it is only a matter of time before that requirement is gone too. http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comm...ata_to_enable/ Here is where you get the crude off-line mode modification. Currently the delete function doesn't work in debug mode. It would take a long time to turn the offline mode into a functional game... But I have a feeling that the modders would actually get the job done faster than EA at this rate.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthi...y-run-offline/ The more info. that is found about the game -- the worse it is looking. If I ever get around to playing this game, I'll join the Pirates. And that's a big fat IF. And so... Quote:
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2013-03-14, 08:32 | Link #205 |
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What baffles me is how did they think they would get away with it when there are people out there, out to get them. Especially after the ME3-Ending debacle. Are they really trying their earnest to plow the ship into an iceberg?
Natch.
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2013-03-14, 09:25 | Link #206 |
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Now that we know for a fact that EA doesn't do ANY serverside calculations, it means the tiny city sizes are not to save bandwidth.
Knowing the fact that the entire population all try to go home to the same house and try to work at the same building, the tiny city sizes are now likely just a way to disguise the fact that there is no actual AI in the citizens. If you have a Simcity 4 size metropolis in Simcity2013, you would quickly see the entire population all trying to get to work at the same part of town. But with city sizes so small, EA was able to hide the issue in the demo and for the first week of sales.
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2013-03-14, 10:11 | Link #208 |
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/regret owning EA shares based simply on financial results 3 7 Qs back ..
EDIT: For accuracy, I just noticed more time went by than I thought, if I bought it 3Q's back I would've made money..
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2013-03-14, 13:17 | Link #211 |
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So this guy found a way to edit other people's cities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...6VE5ZsZw#at=20 He didn't try spoofing usernames though to see if it would sync to the servers. Some other guy found you can edit the roads outside of cities and that does sync to the server.
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2013-03-14, 13:37 | Link #212 | |
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installed, online onry, and etc...i dont like supporting that crap. but oh well, the day when EA learns of this that DRM only hurts their customers/fans, is the day when this world EXPLODES! P.S.: love your sexy sig!
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2013-03-14, 16:53 | Link #214 |
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EA. Lack of servers. Customer Service in India. Decided stupidly to put every single game in origin to compete with Steam. Load of fail. Pirates will pirate. Pirates give no shit. In the end it comes to a point where your not even supporting the company. Its the fucking publisher your paying the money too. The company who made the game? They get squeezed dried.
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2013-03-14, 18:37 | Link #216 |
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/14/si...-phantom-sims/
Interesting thoughts by Pc gamer at the current state of Sim City.
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2013-03-15, 04:34 | Link #217 | |
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So EA/Maxis doesn't really lie (as servers are needed for region calculation), but they did not tell the whole truth (servers are not needed for local city calculation).
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2013-03-15, 05:24 | Link #218 | |
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Further the info from the regions are not calculated at all. They are not even live; there is a massive lag time between a city making changes and it being detected by another city in the region, in tens of minutes. Most of all, there is nothing to "calculate" even for server info. No point twisting the words. There is ZERO calculations done by servers. Nothing is offloaded, everything is calculated by the player's computers. The Server only pass messages around, and as such any claim of "vital server side simulation calculation" is a lie. In fact, multiple gaming sites have asked EA for details on exact WHAT the servers are actually calculating. And EA has not responded. This is more evidence that there is no calculations at all. It would cost them too much money to do server side calculation anyway, they wouldn't have paid for it. Edit: EA has officially declared that they are deleting any forum threads on their site that mentions modding. This of course includes deleting the fact that the game can run offline. http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/9368164.page
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2013-03-15, 09:04 | Link #220 |
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That's pretty much Japan in a nutshell, all the major train stations have bus stop centers along with them (not really parking though) I'm guessing the creators know about that and tried to simulate that in the game as well.
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