2012-09-30, 16:15 | Link #661 | |
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The way I see it modern anime is taking baby steps into a better direction though when it comes to portrayal of it's main characters and what they do. When I look at the type of characters otaku seem to like most they appear to be weak-willed in general. Meaning both male and female characters are portrayed in vaguely insulting and demeaning fashion. What I see now though is at least an attempt to change the dynamic somewhat and make both sexes come off as at least a little stronger, independent and more competent even if one usually ends up being more so than the other and even if it's a VERY slow looking process. I don't expect these changes to happen or even be accepted overnight let alone over the course of a year though, especially in a society as resistant to social change of any kind. |
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2012-09-30, 20:03 | Link #662 |
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Oh, I don't especially think otaku like strong independent females - they like their girls objectified and/or idealized, generally. I don't think it's especially idealistic to suggest there's more to commercial success than just a weak male lead. As I said, there are plenty of of commercially successful anime with no males in the main cast at all.
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2012-09-30, 20:51 | Link #663 | ||
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No male casts at all is even better for them and would be absolute gravy. No pesky competition to get in the way, meaning they can oggle and idealise all they want without any distractions lol The main thing I think is just hitting that wish-fulfillment sweet spot, the dull-characterless male lead is just one of the building blocks among many that are available of use in order to do so.
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While I think there is some adoration for strong independent women, it's nowhere the level that they have when compared to the more subservient types though. I.E Rei vs Asuka (Misato apparently wasn't even as highly regarded in Japan as she was in the West), Yuki vs Haruhi (I'm interested in how well Mikuru stacks up here too actually). Quote:
But it's nice to know that Nichibro's sold a bit better than Binbo though. I didn't know the exact sales figures only that it wasn't exactly the best around so thanks for sharing that. Perhaps the comedy with Nichibro's just struck a better cord with the market, being all skit-based and less reliant on an over-arching narrative. Maybe a little Fujoshi boost might've help carried it a little as well, who knows I guess. Either way, it'd be great if both shows could get more animated material
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2012-10-01, 03:12 | Link #664 | |
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So lesson learn here, you either have to go for spineless harem leads or yuri. Should just make this.... ...official, sales can't be hurt anymore than current level. Edit: too bad that Yamabuki onee-san didn't make much appearances this season. Want to see her claiming back her pride
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2012-10-01, 03:33 | Link #665 | |
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2012-10-02, 00:48 | Link #668 | |
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Like I said before Shueisha tend to support their properties fairly well, which is why even though this sold half of High School Boys it has a higher chance of getting more animated matieral. (Not to mention that the High School Boys manga is now over as well) I would be fairly confident in OVAs bundled with manga tanks.... |
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2012-10-02, 03:10 | Link #669 | |
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And almost all of the fighting was done and between girls.
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2012-10-03, 02:08 | Link #676 |
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after reading some of the comments here
hmmm...wish fulfilment.... (apparently the "loser" is us) fushoujo's.... (sometimes being the reason for an anime existing) not even wanting a decent MC... exactly what does Japan want?
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2012-10-03, 20:46 | Link #678 | |
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Topic: MOAR BINBOGAMI PLEASE! I found the manga online and I'm already caught up. |
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2012-10-06, 17:07 | Link #679 |
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IMO the poor disc sales of this shows are due to the fact that at the start of the show Ichiko is a bitch, she is just a step away from being villian material. Thanks to momiji she becomes a likable person, but by then all the female audience had droipped this show and many of the male audience that hava had dealt with self-centered bitches in real life had also left.
The good new is that (again IMO) shueisha will propel this manga as the new bleach (that is my opinion after looking at the pretty pictures in the rest of the manga) and therefore there will be a second (longer) season that is more action centered, much like what happened back in the day with Ranma 1/2. |
2012-10-06, 18:08 | Link #680 | |
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Shueishas recent anime ventures.... Ao no Exorcist - Massive win, turned a 70k a volume manga into a 700k+ seller as well as doing over 10k in anime sales with a Movie on the way Kuroko's Basket - Big, big win, turned a 200k seller into over 500k, anime is a big hit too doing over 20k in sales Medaka Box - Failure, no increase in manga sales (170kish), anime sales sucked, only has a second season because that was the original plan Binbo-gama - Failure in regards to the anime, manga might get a small boost, last volume opened @ 35k. |
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