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2012-10-04, 10:12 | Link #962 |
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Well, I missed out on the debate, so I YouTube it right now. However, I have read up a little bit on how people reacted to it, which judges Rmoney with a strong debate performance.
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2012-10-04, 10:15 | Link #963 | |
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I kid, I kid! Here's an infographic showing U.S. gov't spending, where it all goes: http://www.cbo.gov/publication/42636 And here's more of the details: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258 The U.S. clearly has a revenue problem. The tax code/system needs to be completely revamped. Gutting and revising the medical insurance system would probably help as well. Here's also a chart showing per capita spending on healthcare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari..._United_States |
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2012-10-04, 10:21 | Link #964 |
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Yeah but he didn't really make any strong lasting points, he just won by appearing to be in control of the debate and showcasing the most confidence, while Obama just sort of looked disinterested, probably still cause the whole thing is pointless. Still it's incredibly dumb on his part and showcases his ocassional lack of attentiveness yet again. It doesn't matter if the thing is a sham, this is a game and you have to think of it as a game if you want to get voters to pay attention. This is one area where I think the Republicans "get it" and are smart enough to make up ground in the election because they pretty much have no shame and this is exactly the game they want to be playing, the one where you don't have to take things seriously and where bluster and arrogance can actually serve them well if they temper it just right like they did with Romney. Dishonest, but smart.
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2012-10-04, 10:33 | Link #965 | |
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At 20 minutes in, I'm already tuning out; and at the first 2-minute answer, I already thought: "Oh look. Romney is saying BS again".
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2012-10-04, 10:45 | Link #966 | |
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I still think that the shift to China as the economic center of the world is actually going to take place sooner now rather than later. I look at them and I see a functioning proactive and most importantly united government that their people respect if fear somewhat and I look at the U.S and see total dysfunction and a public that could give less of a shit about what they are trying to do cause of the deadlock that has been the last decade and whom they fear possibly more than the Chinese fear theirs. Both governments are oppressive, it's just one is actually working and getting shit done. |
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2012-10-04, 10:59 | Link #967 | |
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And I don't see the American government as oppressive. Instead, it's American business that's oppressive, which uses the government as its tool.
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2012-10-04, 11:05 | Link #968 | |
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I'll just say I believe that to be a pipe dream with the US having to take care of a world that is in crisis following the inevitable PRC collapse. |
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2012-10-04, 12:22 | Link #969 | |
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The lack of creativity, drive and adherence to bureaucracy for fear that their iron rice bowl be broken probably made government employees more passive than they actually are. Either that or incompetent superiors who deserve to be put through commando POW training everytime bureaucracy is used as an excuse for inaction.
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2012-10-04, 12:29 | Link #970 |
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There's also cases where the profit motive just isn't suited to a particular type of work. I would judge healthcare to be one of those. Likewise Education.
For profit Educational institutions are more often then not selling snake oil. The best teachers aren't in it for the money. Same goes for Medecine. |
2012-10-04, 12:32 | Link #971 |
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John Marshall over at TPM just saw Romney surrogate Jon Sununu on Andrea Mitchel's show, and he claimed that Obama's poor debate performance is attributed to his laziness. He doesn't like to prep or work in general. Yeah...
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2012-10-04, 13:16 | Link #972 |
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If I remember correctly, the general Republican policy is not to actually debate with the Democratic Party. It is more to show up the Democratic Party and throw out a lot of bluster...without actually debating anything.
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2012-10-04, 13:28 | Link #973 | |
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2012-10-04, 13:59 | Link #976 |
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The United States of America was basically founded as an expansionistic agrarian republic (or at least by 1801 and Thomas Jefferson it was). That was before the Industrial Revolution, so the agrarian has been supplimented with industry and manufacturing. Up until 1900 the country was still expanding via newly acquired territory such as Hawaii, the Philippines, Guam, and Puerto Rico. The last Continental territories became states in 1912. (the Frontier closed in 1890). The last state admitted to the Union was in 1959. By 1960, the expansion had more or less stopped and the country began to stew because of it. One temporary reprieve was the Space Race to the Moon, but that ended quickly since we were not colonizing the place, nor really colonizing anything in Space, even with stations like Skylab or the ISS. The Industry has been shipped overseas as the country has become more service oriented than manufacturing. Of course then one has to ask, how do you provide service jobs to several hundred million people?
Basically the country is not like it was in 1801, but I have the feeling the people are still geared like they were in 1801. They still have that "pioneer spirit" that wants to expand. Or they have a desire to build stuff, and without a manufacturing base, they can't fulfull that desire (not the high end building, I'm talking autoworkers, steel mills, and contruction workers type stuff). I contend that we (as a county) need to expand to keep out people interested and "happy". There has to be someplace else to go that is new. We still have a "its new" culture in consumerism with the need to buy the newest car or clothes or whatever. Translate that back to new lands, and you would get people moving there because it is new, or there is adventure, or there is profit. But where to expand? Canada and Mexico? Already populated with people similar to use. That would be annexation and no one would need to move to either location. That would add a lot more stars to the flag (30 more for Mexico and 12 for Canada) Middle East? That's kind of going backwards isn't it? Plus the natives are a lot more hostile that the Native Americans, and more heavily armed. How about place were there are not humans presently? The Oceans? Space? Up or Down are the viable option for a new frontier. Both have potental resources to collect for business instrests. Both have intersting dangers to overcome. Both require heavy amounts of investment in sciences and engineering t make viable for civilian populations.
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2012-10-04, 14:05 | Link #977 | |
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2012-10-04, 14:09 | Link #978 | |
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Anyways that debate was really depressing. If I had any doubts before, it's clear to me now that it's just the inevitable march towards fascism from here. I think it is already too late for anyone to save this country. |
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