Gundam 00: A wakening of the Trailblazer - Expectations and Speculation

[bio9205]

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

There doesn't seem to be much of a point in installing a Trial System anymore; what would be the point? I don't think any group operates using Veda other than Tieria.

Okay. Thank you. REALLY looking forward to pics of this black Seravee.

Over and out. I'll be back after I see the movie, probably after the AFA 2010 screening in November.

[Tenken_501]

Hey quick question on Harute gundam...what are the scissor bits?

Thanks to everyone who posted spoilers on the movie and answered questions and stuff it was great reading it all!

[vbann]

Seems a lot of people are disappointed with the new spoilers, But 00q total action time 5 mins??? thats a bit of a letdown not to mention lack of closure for the rest of the crew, but I think the concept of aliens is a interesting new change to the world of gundam.

and setsuna now looks like the terminator and he's returned after 50 years to get some sweet old marina lovin' lol jk jk, but i think thats a sweet ending, although a bit bitter marina is old and blind (and with grand kids?) Somewhat meh on the whole shipping thing, because setsuna ending up romantically with anyone would be a bit out of character I think. Now how long is the wait for screenshots

I hope that they add a little more scenes/closure to the dvd/blu ray release (hopufully more 00Q action too because that seems like the BIGGEST let down.)

Since Gundam Unicorn is doing well as a worldwide release by bandai visual, any chances for the Gundam 00 movie to receive the same treatment?

[kk2extreme]

Will there be a 00q riser???

[yurifanboy]

Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon

The whole Setsuna and Marina thing reminds me of Peter and Wendy in the movie Hook.

Spoiler for Setsuna:

Dead on, like a surrogate mother really. I just wish that they had spent more time humanizing Setsuna to support the idea of change. Yeah he evolved, he came to terms that marina's approach was correct, and he became more caring yet still stoic in the second season. Feldt could have been a way to do that, to give him some real human emotion. Then again, he will probably forever be the asexual stoic martyr for humankind. Oh well.

[BurningChaos]

Stop the fucking debate about the movie and anime thingy, Who cares anyways? Gundam 00 is not even real after all =.="

Anyways, Where did the ELS got their GN Technology? It seems that the guy that summarized it in hongfire said that the ELS have a GN technology before they encountered the ESF...So where did it came from?
Also, What happened to the ELS? Are they quietly living on their planetoid and allowing humans (Innovators in particular) to set a footstep to their planet and use it as a ship?

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Based from the summaries we've been given, I will rate the movie 6/10.
What I didn't liked from the movie (Based from the summaries) is that, Meena doesn't get much screening time and not explaining her origins, Quanta have a very short fight scene (Similar to that of S2 ending; Exia R2 vs. 0 Gundam), They didn't showed what happened to the ELS and the Ptolemaios crew, The CBS is not even used? The CBS is not mentioned in the summaries so I think it's not even used, The explanation of where Ian got the Quantum System data. So far these is the only bad things I've ever seen, worst case that I can even think of is that...Why Setsuna turned into a hybrid of ELS? We know that the peace talks succeeded but why the ELS would fucking integrate with Setsuna's body?
I could say that the Gundam 00 Movie have one of the worst ending, Not showing up what happened to the main characters and instead they focused on others and worst is that, they doomed the protagonist of the series =.=" ; We do know that the main characters usually have the better scenario at ending but in this movie it's not implemented, Mizushima focused on humanity's recovery and understanding concept, too focused that he forgot the main characters and he doomed up the protagonist just to put an end into the whole series =.=" .

[Deacon Blues]

Originally Posted by Charred Knight

it's part of real life as can be seen by the United States of America, a British colony that rebelled and has been fighting a ton of wars ever since.

Except that we fought one war for independence. The other wars that we've fought in had nothing to do with our independence directly. You may wanna go back and re-read history.

@BurningChaos,

I'd um... ya know watch the movie instead of going by grossly summarized plot points to the movie where people hardly described scenes and what not. You may change your mind in the end.

[RES-01 Perses Gundam]

Originally Posted by BurningChaos

Stop the fucking debate about the movie and anime thingy, Who cares anyways? Gundam 00 is not even real after all =.="

Anyways, Where did the ELS got their GN Technology? It seems that the guy that summarized it in hongfire said that the ELS have a GN technology before they encountered the ESF...So where did it came from?
Also, What happened to the ELS? Are they quietly living on their planetoid and allowing humans (Innovators in particular) to set a footstep to their planet and use it as a ship?

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Based from the summaries we've been given, I will rate the movie 6/10.
What I didn't liked from the movie (Based from the summaries) is that, Meena doesn't get much screening time and not explaining her origins, Quanta have a very short fight scene (Similar to that of S2 ending; Exia R2 vs. 0 Gundam), They didn't showed what happened to the ELS and the Ptolemaios crew, The CBS is not even used? The CBS is not mentioned in the summaries so I think it's not even used, The explanation of where Ian got the Quantum System data. So far these is the only bad things I've ever seen, worst case that I can even think of is that...Why Setsuna turned into a hybrid of ELS? We know that the peace talks succeeded but why the ELS would fucking integrate with Setsuna's body?
I could say that the Gundam 00 Movie have one of the worst ending, Not showing up what happened to the main characters and instead they focused on others and worst is that, they doomed the protagonist of the series =.=" ; We do know that the main characters usually have the better scenario at ending but in this movie it's not implemented, Mizushima focused on humanity's recovery and understanding concept, too focused that he forgot the main characters and he doomed up the protagonist just to put an end into the whole series =.=" .

Since ELS have the ability to consume and learn the mechanism behind the building of those stuffs they consumed, it is likely that they learnt the mechanism behind GN technology instantly, then applying it in battle. And they got all the sample from the expedition ship, I guess.

Hello, 2 hours is already constrained enough to accommodate Meena and explaining her origins. Yeah, a flashback may suffice but that's not even important in the context of the movie.

Like what others have said here, 00 Qan[T] is a suit not enthused to destroy. Setsuna probably knew that 00 Qan[T] wouldn't last long enough to see battle. If the sacrifice of 1 suit and 2 GN drives saved humanity, then I reckon Setsuna wouldn't mind.

Quantum System -> Tieria!Veda with Setsuna's inputs? Or vice versa.

You see, if the ELS understood Setsuna, then how did they do so? They probably decided to consume him, then realise after his quantum brainwaves that they actually did the wrong thing.

This movie is different, get it? Acknowledge flaws in the movie, not criticise and then demonstrate complete retardation of demeanor and behaviour.

[BurningChaos]

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

Since ELS have the ability to consume and learn the mechanism behind the building of those stuffs they consumed, it is likely that they learnt the mechanism behind GN technology instantly, then applying it in battle. And they got all the sample from the expedition ship, I guess.

Hello, 2 hours is already constrained enough to accommodate Meena and explaining her origins. Yeah, a flashback may suffice but that's not even important in the context of the movie.

Like what others have said here, 00 Qan[T] is a suit not enthused to destroy. Setsuna probably knew that 00 Qan[T] wouldn't last long enough to see battle. If the sacrifice of 1 suit and 2 GN drives saved humanity, then I reckon Setsuna wouldn't mind.

Quantum System -> Tieria!Veda with Setsuna's inputs? Or vice versa.

You see, if the ELS understood Setsuna, then how did they do so? They probably decided to consume him, then realise after his quantum brainwaves that they actually did the wrong thing.

This movie is different, get it? Acknowledge flaws in the movie, not criticise and then demonstrate complete retardation of demeanor and behaviour.

Very different from what I imagined indeed. So, the movie is open-ended? It's not even an end to the series in my opinion. :|

[RES-01 Perses Gundam]

Originally Posted by BurningChaos

Very different from what I imagined indeed. So, the movie is open-ended? It's not even an end to the series in my opinion. :|

The director said that it ended the series for him. So I guess he was hinting that the movie is open-ended.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by BurningChaos

Very different from what I imagined indeed. So, the movie is open-ended? It's not even an end to the series in my opinion. :|

There is always more room for stories. There is 50 years between the ELS attack and the end of the movie, that's a lot of free room.

Even if they don't make a sequel to the movie or make a story centered during the 50 years, they could make a 00P OVA.

[BurningChaos]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

There is always more room for stories. There is 50 years between the ELS attack and the end of the movie, that's a lot of free room.

Even if they don't make a sequel to the movie or make a story centered during the 50 years, they could make a 00P OVA.

Hmm...A pretty good idea =D. But i will rejoice if there will be a sequel to the movie, The movie being open-ended is not an ending to the series in my opinion.
Anyways, I have a version of what the S3 would be like. Codegeass style =D

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

As much as I'd like more 00 media the success of the movies is paramount to any more spinoffs or sequels.

Anyone know how much money the movie brought in on day one?

[velocity7]

Just gave the Hongfire summary a read. Great stuff, looking forward to watching the movie myself whenever I can get the chance to.

Spoiler:

Even if the movie is open-ended, it looks like there's a lot of room to create stories about Setsuna venturing off into deep space during the 50-year time span. Could practically end up like Star Trek, lol.

The only thing to note though is that if such spinoffs were made, Setsuna would have a plot shield due to the epilogue... sad to see that Marina was never able to innovate, but at least she had closure. I wonder about the rest of the Ptolemaios crew, though?

Also I imagine that Ribbons appearing may have been due to the ELS having absorbed data from the Jupiter ship. As it had data on all of the Innovades, including their DNA, that might have resulted in some not-so-great coincidences. This means that Ribbons never really appeared, only a silhouette of him.

I'm also totally cool with 00 Qan[T] getting not so much screentime in combat. It was not a Gundam designed to fight war, it was designed to stop it. Besides, its armament was pretty small in comparison to 00 Raiser, which was touted as a machine capable of high-level GN particle usage. 00 Qan[T] on the other hand appears to specialize in quantum-level communications, which is key to the success of Stage 3 of Aeolia's Plan.

[bio9205]

Hallelujah action much, by any chance?

[aeriolewinters]

The movie has opened the gundam multiverse to even more possibilities, I think that this could lead to other AU's that feature extraterrestrial lifeforms.This is a welcome change, but I don't think that it will bode well with the common UC eletist.

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by aeriolewinters

The movie has opened the gundam multiverse to even more possibilities, I think that this could lead to other AU's that feature extraterrestrial lifeforms.This is a welcome change, but I don't think that it will bode well with the common UC eletist.

Nothing bodes well with the common UC Elitist. Though I like the idea of aliens in Gundam, especially in 00, I don't like the idea of every new AU having them.

[MasterX25]

After reading the new lot. I have a lot better understanding of the movie, now I will rate it 70% for personal. Just cause that lack of background introduction of characters and dialog.

[Marikina]

Originally Posted by Kittenlady

To be fair, it's pretty difficult to believe it'd be that easy. But hey whatever, just go with it I guess.

Though I can see why some people might have trouble believing it.

What's so easy about it? I mean we're talking about racial segregation and then deportation 50 years later.

[Ottocycle]

Originally Posted by aeriolewinters

The movie has opened the gundam multiverse to even more possibilities, I think that this could lead to other AU's that feature extraterrestrial lifeforms.This is a welcome change, but I don't think that it will bode well with the common UC eletist.

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

Nothing bodes well with the common UC Elitist. Though I like the idea of aliens in Gundam, especially in 00, I don't like the idea of every new AU having them.

I like UC, and I like the AUs too. The movie attempted to Innovate, but it is after all, merely A Wakening, and I will give props to the makers for their guts in trying to put something new in a franchise with such a big and broad foundation.

Yes, there were some narrative failures and it was an overall clumsy attempt IMO, but I think that it can be forgiven in the face of helping the overall franchise break new ground.

Dare I say, those who don't think so have their souls chained by the Earth's gravity.