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Von Himmel · 2010-12-11, 21:26

>Tsubaki to A tier
Yey !

So Ragna is on the bottom tier because he got too much nerf ?

Duo Maxwell · 2010-12-11, 21:43

Oh great. The last thing I want is Arakune at S-tier. Playing against him is the fine define of "no-fun-match".

Platinum is C-tier, hmm? Not like it bothers me much, seeing how I still main Rachel currently.

~~Arbitres~~ · 2010-12-11, 21:54

Phew... Haku and Lamby are still good to use. Was afraid they'd be bumped all the way down. Tier B isn't bad.

Duo Maxwell · 2010-12-11, 21:58

From what I heard, C-tier doesn't mean they are bad. It's just they are not as good as those above. Which mean the game is pretty balance right now compare to BBCS.

Aside from S-tier Arakune....

SilverSyko · 2010-12-11, 22:03

Wasn't Arakune god-tier in CT? Bet all the Arakune mains are howling with joy at this.

Anyway, I'd say the more characters we have in the center of the list (A or B) the more balanced the game is.

14 out of 18 is pretty damn good I'd think. Shame that Bang got nerfed hard though. D=

SonOfHeaven · 2010-12-11, 22:04

Nice to my main Tsubaki not bottom tier. She needed some changes from BBCS, I like what I saw from the few vids I saw earlier today. Now with Ragna nerfed. Hopefully the Tsubaki and Ragna matchup shouldn't be a straight up nightmare for Tsubaki.

iwatch2muchanime · 2010-12-11, 23:20

I don't believe Bang is that bad, as a Bang main he still looks quite useful

Asuras · 2010-12-11, 23:22

I've never won to a Bang.

Westlo · 2010-12-11, 23:25

Personally very happy to see Noel and Tsubaki are much stronger in this game....

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

From what I heard, C-tier doesn't mean they are bad. It's just they are not as good as those above. Which mean the game is pretty balance right now compare to BBCS.

Aside from S-tier Arakune....

You can't really see how well balanced a game is until you look @ a matchup chart.

germanturkey · 2010-12-11, 23:35

strangely, i don't see any evidence of Arakune being s-tier. every video i've seen (and i've seen all the uploaded ones thus far) show that his curse loop is now only like 4 or 5k. plus everyone's combos have changed a lot, so no one is really being used to potential. except for maybe Jin, because he's incredibly similar to his CS self. basically, jin's gotten a lot of buffs and not too many nerfs, so he should be pretty high on the list.

they bumped up /\'s damage a bit, so i'm happy. standard sword combo does 2.2, everyone can be jdd j2dd djdd dj2dd-ed for extra damage. i can't wait for the console patch.

Westlo · 2010-12-11, 23:50

Is jourdal's youtube channel still one of the best places to watch BB vids?

germanturkey · 2010-12-12, 00:08

yep. he's posting BBCS2 stuff too. 2 updates today. tsubaki looks good now. might be worthwhile to finally figure out how to play her. when my friends and i do randoms, its always just normals normals normals. we never even bother charging the meter. haha.

Iron Maw · 2010-12-12, 20:29

Tokkan · 2010-12-12, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Anyway, I'm not buying Mu being C tier if anything she looks more like the low A or high B, but I guess that stuff is a bit early to talk about. Regardless she seems very strong right now a long with Lambda, Noel and Tsubaki.

Stunedge said it would probably be more accurate to organise them in A, A-, B and B- tiers and completely omitting S and C because in his opinion there's not much disparity in strength among the characters this time around.

Also, I disagree that Platinum is "eh?" at the moment after seeing Shadow play as Platinum rather effectively.

germanturkey · 2010-12-12, 23:36

well, if stunedge said to jump off a bridge, would you do it? haha. jk.

but yeah, it seems that this version is a bit more well rounded than the previous two. no one really knows how to play platinum. Mu does look a bit meh to me. the delay between putting out the stein and having it shoot seems to have increased a bit. Makoto is looking pretty ridiculous right now though. i'm surprised they didn't change her 0 frame startup super..

Duo Maxwell · 2010-12-13, 00:52

It's shaping good so far. Well, I've not been seeing Arakune did anything that's worth a S-tier, aside from 100% curse combo. Everyone looks like they still have a chance against each other, and Rachel/Platinum look good there :3.

I'm not at the level where I should take tier list seriously, though.
Btw, in my opinion, announcer got a nerf, once again.

[edit]
Best Platinum I've seen up until now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5asnPWWPdXo

Westlo · 2010-12-13, 02:49

It definitely is too early to take a tier list seriously but it is interesting to see how it changes and who is spot on. For instance Mago (2dgod) said Fei Long was top tier a month after Super Street Fighter came out, pretty much all of SRK laughed at him.. 6 months later and he's cemented himself as the best SSFIV player in Japan and they're not laughing anymore.

Actually looking at the list by Mago and Nemo.. if you change maybe 3-4 positions their pretty much spot on for Super's lifetime.

Also damn @ Tsubaki in that YCYDr6LsRu8 vid, Dat 5d charge. Now who do I play? Noel, Lamda or Tsubaki? Hope my arcade gets BBCS2 fairly soon.. I know they'll get 6 setups of AE for SFIV like 2 days after release but I hope BBCS2 isn't that far behind.

Tokkan · 2010-12-13, 05:23

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Originally Posted by Westlo

Hope my arcade gets BBCS2 fairly soon..

BBCS2 won't be coming to arcades outside of Japan in the foreseeable future, the Nesica X Live service it uses requires a high-speed fiber-optic internet connection. The balance changes will be coming to the console version around the same time as Platinum (Spring... or Autumn if you live in the southern hemisphere).

Westlo · 2010-12-13, 07:36

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Originally Posted by Tokkan

BBCS2 won't be coming to arcades outside of Japan in the foreseeable future, the Nesica X Live service it uses requires a high-speed fiber-optic internet connection.

Oh ffs I hope you're kidding.

*checks*

Man what a bummer.

iwatch2muchanime · 2010-12-13, 09:37

We can also pray that fiber optics become standard for the US....... but that won't happen

2010-12-11, 21:26	Link #2061
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	>Tsubaki to A tier Yey ! So Ragna is on the bottom tier because he got too much nerf ? __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2010-12-11, 21:43	Link #2062
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Oh great. The last thing I want is Arakune at S-tier. Playing against him is the fine define of "no-fun-match". Platinum is C-tier, hmm? Not like it bothers me much, seeing how I still main Rachel currently. __________________

2010-12-11, 21:58	Link #2064
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	From what I heard, C-tier doesn't mean they are bad. It's just they are not as good as those above. Which mean the game is pretty balance right now compare to BBCS. Aside from S-tier Arakune.... __________________

2010-12-11, 22:03	Link #2065
SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	Wasn't Arakune god-tier in CT? Bet all the Arakune mains are howling with joy at this. Anyway, I'd say the more characters we have in the center of the list (A or B) the more balanced the game is. 14 out of 18 is pretty damn good I'd think. Shame that Bang got nerfed hard though. D= __________________

2010-12-11, 22:04	Link #2066
SonOfHeaven Metal Gear!? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tampa	Nice to my main Tsubaki not bottom tier. She needed some changes from BBCS, I like what I saw from the few vids I saw earlier today. Now with Ragna nerfed. Hopefully the Tsubaki and Ragna matchup shouldn't be a straight up nightmare for Tsubaki. __________________

2010-12-11, 21:54	Link #2063
~~Arbitres~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Jan 2010	Phew... Haku and Lamby are still good to use. Was afraid they'd be bumped all the way down. Tier B isn't bad.

2010-12-11, 23:20	Link #2067
iwatch2muchanime Lazy Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oklahoma Age: 34	I don't believe Bang is that bad, as a Bang main he still looks quite useful __________________ MyAnimeList

2010-12-11, 23:22	Link #2068
Asuras Dictadere~! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: On the front lines, fighting for inderpendence.	I've never won to a Bang. __________________

2010-12-11, 23:35	Link #2070
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	strangely, i don't see any evidence of Arakune being s-tier. every video i've seen (and i've seen all the uploaded ones thus far) show that his curse loop is now only like 4 or 5k. plus everyone's combos have changed a lot, so no one is really being used to potential. except for maybe Jin, because he's incredibly similar to his CS self. basically, jin's gotten a lot of buffs and not too many nerfs, so he should be pretty high on the list. they bumped up /\'s damage a bit, so i'm happy. standard sword combo does 2.2, everyone can be jdd j2dd djdd dj2dd-ed for extra damage. i can't wait for the console patch. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2010-12-11, 23:50	Link #2071
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	Is jourdal's youtube channel still one of the best places to watch BB vids?

2010-12-12, 00:08	Link #2072
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	yep. he's posting BBCS2 stuff too. 2 updates today. tsubaki looks good now. might be worthwhile to finally figure out how to play her. when my friends and i do randoms, its always just normals normals normals. we never even bother charging the meter. haha. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2010-12-12, 20:29	Link #2073
Iron Maw Banned Join Date: Feb 2006	Some Vids from Dustloop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS9C47xoIeE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUCKGEoD6tw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLaVQ0tXdgc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykXTAj7hgz4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bc7rzHawc0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cO0lXr3pd0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfnOkTD2oTg The game seems to be quite a bit faster now. Anyway, I'm not buying Mu being C tier if anything she looks more like the low A or high B, but I guess that stuff is a bit early to talk about. Regardless she seems very strong right now a long with Lambda, Noel and Tsubaki. More vids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRwffB-nOEE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCYDr6LsRu8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sla9hXqo3ZY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUhJlu2_oo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq8UdEtN9lo Rejoice Rachel fans her legs are no longer broken! Bang on the other .... lol Platinum is kinda "eh?" at moment though.

2010-12-12, 23:36	Link #2075
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	well, if stunedge said to jump off a bridge, would you do it? haha. jk. but yeah, it seems that this version is a bit more well rounded than the previous two. no one really knows how to play platinum. Mu does look a bit meh to me. the delay between putting out the stein and having it shoot seems to have increased a bit. Makoto is looking pretty ridiculous right now though. i'm surprised they didn't change her 0 frame startup super.. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2010-12-13, 00:52	Link #2076
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	It's shaping good so far. Well, I've not been seeing Arakune did anything that's worth a S-tier, aside from 100% curse combo. Everyone looks like they still have a chance against each other, and Rachel/Platinum look good there :3. I'm not at the level where I should take tier list seriously, though. Btw, in my opinion, announcer got a nerf, once again. [edit] Best Platinum I've seen up until now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5asnPWWPdXo __________________ Last edited by Duo Maxwell; 2010-12-13 at 01:23.

2010-12-13, 02:49	Link #2077
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	It definitely is too early to take a tier list seriously but it is interesting to see how it changes and who is spot on. For instance Mago (2dgod) said Fei Long was top tier a month after Super Street Fighter came out, pretty much all of SRK laughed at him.. 6 months later and he's cemented himself as the best SSFIV player in Japan and they're not laughing anymore. Actually looking at the list by Mago and Nemo.. if you change maybe 3-4 positions their pretty much spot on for Super's lifetime. Also damn @ Tsubaki in that YCYDr6LsRu8 vid, Dat 5d charge. Now who do I play? Noel, Lamda or Tsubaki? Hope my arcade gets BBCS2 fairly soon.. I know they'll get 6 setups of AE for SFIV like 2 days after release but I hope BBCS2 isn't that far behind.

2010-12-13, 09:37	Link #2080
iwatch2muchanime Lazy Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oklahoma Age: 34	We can also pray that fiber optics become standard for the US....... but that won't happen __________________ MyAnimeList