Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion (second reincarnation)

[Evangelion Xgouki]

Originally Posted by Sheba

"Kill!"
"Crush!"
"Destroy!"

You forgot

"Pillage!"

[Silvance]

Anyway, a few pages back (uhhh...actually about 20 pages or so....), one of the members asked me to draw a full bodied sketch of Fate's Sonic EXA Form and her Plasma Form. So, here it is. This is the final design for the Plasma Form and Bardiche Delta Form. It looks quite different compared to the first version (for those of you who have seen it). XD

Full bodied sketch of Sonic EXA Form with Bardiche Haken Form:

Spoiler:

Plasma Form and Bardiche Delta Form:

Spoiler:

Fate still has a cape but shorter than ever. Among the sketches that I've done, this one took me a long time to finish T__T

For Asclei, you could see Silvance's secondary form--Twin Blade Form. In here, you could also see the first form of his barrier jacket which is the Delta form. At the bottom, you could see Asclei in his barrier jacket secondary form--Levia Form. Some of you probably already know the special functions of the Levia Form.

Spoiler:

Anyway, for those of you who saw my sketch of Fate performing a CPR to Asclei...you could say that event had some impact to Fate. Asclei in the other hand doesnt remember much about it.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Ok. In here, Fate pretty much had a dream and woke up and becomes embarassed and wonders why she had that kind of dream. Morning came and she's on the hallway. Asclei greeted her. Fate then just walked right passed him while avoiding eye contact and said
"G-Good Morning"

[Evangelion Xgouki]

Originally Posted by -Fate-

Plasma Form and Bardiche Delta Form:

Spoiler:

Fate still has a cape but shorter than ever. Among the sketches that I've done, this one took me a long time to finish T__T

Oh wow. I really like the wide-cuff design for the sleeves

Originally Posted by -Fate-

Anyway, for those of you who saw my sketch of Fate performing a CPR to Asclei...you could say that event had some impact to Fate. Asclei in the other hand doesnt remember much about it.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Ok. In here, Fate pretty much had a dream and woke up and becomes embarassed and wonders why she had that kind of dream. Morning came and she's on the hallway. Asclei greeted her. Fate then just walked right passed him while avoiding eye contact and said
"G-Good Morning"

FATE-CHAN!!

OMG...so CU~~~TE

...do you take comissions?

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Actually, you answered the question to how I got the idea that you were saying that everyone would hate RF6. 'Everybody who RF6 made to look bad' which is... well... basically every unit in the TSAB.

...I suppose my annoyed mood may be because I've just got up, but...

Oh, forget it, Keroko. You are hopeless. I give up trying to explain. You are consistently misinterpreting what I say on the matter. In Comar's work, RF6 took on a number of roles that were previously held by several different units: several, not the entire TSAB. Those units which have had their jobs taken away would be very unhappy. RF6 showing other units that it can do special missions better would also create friction. Comar never said that RF6 was taking on every single mission of the TSAB.

Heck if you want a more recent example, Task Force Ranger in Mogadishu, who were the subject of the book and movie Black Hawk Down. The young Ranger grunts were wowed by the Delta Force operators, much the same way RF6 wowed the TSAB grunts. Captain Steele, the Ranger commander, hated Delta Force, however.

You know what? Forget it. It's pointless for me to continue. Your attitude right now is "I've made up my mind - don't confuse me with the facts."

Only because I hate chat programs?

No, I'm just ribbing you.

And get trashed into physical walls, protect against physical punches and kicks from the Sentoukijin (note that these are the same attacks that have the strength to slam people through concrete) I do agree that what is meant by armor is the magical defence, but then, that has always been my point.

IMO Barrier Jackets have always been tuned to provide against blunt impact like slamming into walls and stuff. With the fall of Belka, there's not really much work done onto tuning BJs to protect against cutting and stabbing, which is why Belkan weapons are so effective - assuming you get into range, of course.

Goose, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I talk about Miltaku crack. Yes, in real life such things have happened, but we are not working with real life here, we are working with an anime, and as such we need to prove such things happen in the anime first before we go and alter things. Right now, there is no proof whatsoever that every unit RF6 made to look bad would hate them.

We also have no proof that humans in the anime are not like other humans and are immune to things such as envy, bitterness, jealousy. In fact since everyone here treats humans in the anime as being no different from humans in the real world I do not see how humans in the anime are magically immune to the whole spectrum, good or bad, of feelings and emotions.

Also I have no fucking idea how you can take my personal experiences and call it miltaku crack.

I know, I know. My bad.

If you're going to be complaining about miltaku crack, then look at yourself in the mirror, Keroko. There's a malaysian saying "Before you complain, look in the mirror." TK and I are the main miltaku writers and we keep our stuff readable with as little jargon as possible unless it can't be avoided. You and Kha, meanwhile, are merrily throwing around 40k crack.

I'm sorry if this hurts, but I'm seeing a double standard here.

So, out of curiosity because this game looks mighty interesting, how are they going to make the translation work? By the looks of it, this is a Playstation game...

Basically you take the PS2 dvd, extract it to the hard drive, and apply the translation patch, which overwrites gamefiles. You then burn the extracted ISO back onto another DVD, and then play, keeping your original ISO as a master copy.

@Comar: Interesting setup for Durandal. Will talk/discuss more when I get back later tonight. Heading in early for opening duties. Garh on the promotion fast track to Main Chair - aka Shift Controller for Stores and CSC. Main Chair's like the AWACS or Forward Air Controller of Domino's.

@-Fate-:
Nice job on the drawings....

I don't really like the wide cuffs on the sleeves though. They'd get in the way when she's swinging Bardiche around.

[Kha]

Originally Posted by -Fate-

Anyway, a few pages back (uhhh...actually about 20 pages or so....), one of the members asked me to draw a full bodied sketch of Fate's Sonic EXA Form and her Plasma Form. So, here it is. This is the final design for the Plasma Form and Bardiche Delta Form. It looks quite different compared to the first version (for those of you who have seen it). XD

Full bodied sketch of Sonic EXA Form with Bardiche Haken Form:

Spoiler:

Plasma Form and Bardiche Delta Form:

Spoiler:

Fate still has a cape but shorter than ever. Among the sketches that I've done, this one took me a long time to finish T__T

For Asclei, you could see Silvance's secondary form--Twin Blade Form. In here, you could also see the first form of his barrier jacket which is the Delta form. At the bottom, you could see Asclei in his barrier jacket secondary form--Levia Form. Some of you probably already know the special functions of the Levia Form.

Spoiler:

Anyway, for those of you who saw my sketch of Fate performing a CPR to Asclei...you could say that event had some impact to Fate. Asclei in the other hand doesnt remember much about it.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Ok. In here, Fate pretty much had a dream and woke up and becomes embarassed and wonders why she had that kind of dream. Morning came and she's on the hallway. Asclei greeted her. Fate then just walked right passed him while avoiding eye contact and said
"G-Good Morning"

Sonic EXA never fails to make me go .

It's even replaced my mental image of Shin Sonic...

The blade design of TBF, while the hilt is completely different, resembles Tausend Kreuz in Falchion mode, but I guess this coincidence came from solving the same design problem: making a sword that could fit together.

Plasma form gave me lots of miko vibes (shape+sleeves me thinks ) and yes I have to agree the large cuffs look good, but may be rather intrusive.

Also, theories say Fate's Impulse (or any heavier armor form) was used over Sonic because of her limiters restricting her ability to maintain highly energetic jackets, which is why once the limiters were removed, at the Riot 6 epilogue Fate henshins straight to Sonic. Probably just me, but because of this theory I find Fate having heavier armor after StrikerS a bit jarring.

And at first it was vibes, now I'm getting it confirmed. It seems Fate is turning into a tsundere. And I believe the older members recall me saying that the "casting Fate as the older tsun onee-chan to Chrono" crack would be Kha's (and mine) ultimate fantasy...

Also, could you help me draw something... ^^;;;



EDIT: Once again, in case you missed it, Kha's latest profile (3rd Edition) can be found here.

4th Edition has left alpha testing and is entered into closed beta testing. Not long more...

And the 5th Edition will probably come out after World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King is released.

[haiz123321]

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

I couldn't wait anymore.

OC Material post! HASSHA!

Seven Years Before MSLN Nanoha...
A Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha prequel side story...

~MGLN RecollectionS~
~A glimpse into the past...~

A collection of OC-Centered pre-series stories, only to be seen now...

Starring:

-=The Spectral Enforcers=-

Spoiler for Spectrum 1: Granveil Lacetti:

Name: Granveil Lacetti
Nickname: Gran, Blazing Heart, Nekketsu-Taichou (Captain Hot Blood)
Callsign: Spectrum 1
Position: Front Attacker
Gender: Male
Age: 35 (17 years prior to StrikerS)
Birthday: 27th August in the Earth Calendar
Occupation/s: TSAB Enforcer (17 years ago). Now deceased.
Rankings: Registered mage ranking: Air Knight: S
Height: 6’0”
Weight: 180 lbs.
Skin: Fair
Eyes: Amber
Hair: Black, unruly
Magic style: Neo Belka
Magic Color: Brick Red
Usual wear: A colorful shirt with red jacket and light blue pants
Specialization: Melee
Armed Device: Glamdring
Seiyuu: Ryotaro Okiayu (Akio Furukawa from CLANNAD)

Profile: One of the few and proud remaining Knights remaining in recent TSAB history, Granveil is a charismatic person who has a strong sense of justice with a big mouth. He was famous not only due to the rarity of his Mage class but also with his incredible strength and skill. He already has his own family living in a faraway TSAB-Administered planet called Duraxyll. And also, he is the leader of the Elite Enforcer group called the Spectral Enforcers.

Personality: Granveil, at first glance, is a person whom one would never mistake for a capable and reputable person. He acts like an impulsive man who refuses to grow up. And to make matters much worse, he is also quite hotblooded. However, regardless of these eccentricities, Granveil is a very competent and skilled leader with a good measure of both confidence and charisma. He usually talks in a loud and passionate tone, much to the amusement and/or annoyance of the people around him. But when it’s time for serious work, Granveil has shown to be very well-modulated and professional.

Relationships: <to be updated>

Device: <to be updated>

Fighting Style: <to be updated>

Spoiler for Spectrum 2: Victoria Fairmont:

Name: Victoria Fairmont
Nickname: Brainy Lioness
Callsign: Spectrum 2
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Birthday: 14th September in the Earth Calendar
Occupation/s: TSAB Enforcer (17 years ago). Now deceased.
Rankings: Registered mage ranking: Air Mage: S-
Position: Center Guard
Skin: Slightly tanned
Height: 5’8”
Weight: 126 lbs.
Eyes: Aquamarine
Hair: Olive, long and slightly curly
Magic style: Mid-Childa
Magic Color: Blue-green
Usual wear: TSAB Enforcer uniform. She uses pants instead of skirts
Specialization: Range Combat
Intelligent Device: Bellzelute
Seiyuu: Kikuko Inoue (Grace O'Connor from Macross Frontier)

Profile: <to be updated>

Personality: <to be updated>

Relationships: <to be updated>

Device: <to be updated>

Fighting Style: <to be updated>

Spoiler for Spectrum 3: Aurion Dauer:

Name: Aurion Dauer
Nickname: Heartless Ace/Hell’s Inquisitor
Callsign: Spectrum 3
Position: Support Attacker
Gender: Male
Age: 17 (17 years prior to StrikerS)
Birthday: 29th March in the Earth Calendar
Occupation/s: TSAB Enforcer
Rankings: Registered mage ranking: Air mage: AAA+
Height: 5’8"
Weight: 155 lbs.
Skin: Fair
Eyes: Black
Hair: Dark blue, unkempt
Magic style: Mid-Childa
Magic Color: Cobalt Blue in different hues
Usual wear: TSAB Naval Forces Uniform
Specialization: Frontline Tactical Support
Devices: Intelligent Device: Vega
Seiyuu: Mamoru Miyano (Setsuna F. Seiei from Gundam 00)

Profile: A silent and brooding person. A childhood friend, and also Almaria’s boyfriend. Was recruited into TSAB four months before Almaria. He proved to be a very talented and diligent trainee, gaining favor from the infamous Instructor Austin Abrams of the Air Force due to his commendable grit and fortitude even under the harshest of trainings. He rose fairly quickly along the ranks, earning the title of an Ace at fourteen years of age. Despite his age, he was notoriously famous for his oftentimes heartless method against opponents. He first killed a person when he was 13. He got transferred into the Navy a year after Almaria, becoming Spectrum 3 of the Spectral Enforcers. This would be his last position before the Perfect Void Incident and retiring from the army.


Personality: Serious, taciturn and a bit tactless. The Aurion from seventeen years ago can be considered worlds apart from the current one. He’s generally courteous, but can be a terrible adversary when angered. His nature as a child is rather dubious, only having a very small social circle. He finds it difficult to trust other people, initially only trusting Almaria. He prefers the company of higher-ranked and generally older people, having a large amount of respect for several of them. His peers were rather wary of him, and his attitude did little to help quell the cautious regards. Regardless, he was clear-headed and has a soft spot for kids. He generally talks with others in a polite but emotionless tone. He had a lot of interest in Device-mechanics, and took his free time as an occasional assistant to the researcher and Device-manufacturer, Reban Innova.

On a more positive note, he has somewhat lightened up through the years, thanks to the influence of other members of the Spectral Enforcers; although his abilities of sarcasm has also grown. As a soldier, he is considered to be a workaholic. To further this point, he also had a bad habit of pushing himself too much when work is involved. He's also very frugal about mundane tasks. His things are usually kept orderly. He can cook if need be, but he never bothers in making the dishes attractive. He has a bit of a soft spot for children, especially orphans such as himself. He also gets rather embarrassed when subjected to doting by elderly people.

His moral code was very utilitarian, as he had no qualms about killing a few to save several others. Almaria was very worried of this fact, remembering that Aurion was quite disturbed after his first time in killing a person. This is also the reason why he got the moniker, "Heartless Ace." He got his other nickname, "Hell's Inquisitor"; from the fact that he uses Willbreaker coupled with moderate to extreme physical torture when interrogating captured opponents. His main reasoning for being such is protecting those who are important to him and preventing more children like him in following the same fate.

Spoiler for Internal monologue:

I'm already a killer... But it doesn't matter. As long as those kids I know never end up like me. If I have to throw away my conscience in dealing with threats, so be it! Better me than them! Even if I've already become a demon, at least I'm sure I'm still able to protect what are important to me.

The only person whom Aurion seems to be completely relaxed around is Almaria. Even to the extent of taking an almost 180 degree turn in disposition. This includes actually being laid back and smiling constantly; as well as teasing her. Even when around other people, he never bothers to hide this change. Likewise, he was the only person the normally mature and professional Almaria acted completely at ease and 'cute' with; most notably being comfortable in physical contact with him. They also like sparring with each other, with the score 35-32 in Aurion's favor.

Relationships: Needless to say, Aurion was an antisocial and cold individual to strangers. Even towards acquaintances, he rarely ever talks with them with complete sincerity, save for Almaria and some other people he respects. Gil Graham, Austin Abrams and the researcher named Reban Innova are some of the few people he holds complete respect for. The person he is closest to is without a doubt, Almaria. The reason for this stems back to when he was four... Almaria was the only person who bothered trying to talk and make friends with him, reasoning that they had the same birthday so they should at least get along well. Curiously, there was something more to their closeness than just being long-time acquaintances... A strange link that was forged between them ever since that day; allowing them a limited but accurate mutual perception. The reason behind this remains a mystery up to this day.

With that aside, his first ever, and only childhood friend was Almaria. She acted like a big sister to him, getting a reversal of roles in some circumstances. They complemented each other very well, one being stiff and emotionless while the other was bright and cheerful. As they grew up, their relationship only got stronger; culminating into being an item after one year of separation in service of TSAB.

They were really an almost perfect pair; both as people and as combatants. They worked practically flawlessly when in tandem, even at one time defeating two more-experienced S-ranked opponents despite the difference in rank, power and skill. Their abilities in combat as a pair was unbelievably good, one being a tactical and systematic aggressor and the other being a graceful range-attacker; both functioning as a single harmonized entity; almost as if having the same mind. Their lack of any melee specialization almost meant nothing when one sees them, as they support each other so well that they seemed to have a counter for just about anything, even covering flaws that both of them shared. In fact, they just worked TOO well as a team that it was almost inhuman. This was quite an oddity by those times; seeing as they seemed to be connected so well to the extent that they can actually feel each other’s presence when they are in similar locations… Some tests were run on the two, yet nothing out of the ordinary was found.

Unlike other people who've just become lovers, there's hardly any sense of shyness between them. There were also a very deep level of trust and respect for each other, assuring that they never let their adolescent impulses from taking their intimacy too far; promising each other that they will both wait until they are both old and mature enough to commit to each other. The leader of the Spectral Enforcers once made a comment that, "Che. They've just become an item. But from what I can see, their bond and understanding of each other is far, far better than most of the married couples I've seen."

He also held a lot of respect for the researcher, Reban Innova; who was responsible for bringing him and Almaria into TSAB service in the first place. He and Almaria both seem to feel a strangely calming aura around the elderly man. This person is also the one responsible for creating Aurion and Almaria’s custom devices, namely Vega and Altair. He would later also consider the Spectral Enforcers as the family he never had.


Barrier Jacket: Aurion’s Barrier Jacket was very similar to the standard Enforcer BJ design. The only noticeable difference was the darker color scheme with sharper details and a lighter frame. The performance of his requested design was significantly better than those of standard ones, allowing for good agility and defense at the same time.


Device: Intelligent Device: Vega

One of the two specialized experimental devices made by the researcher Reban Innova; the other being Almaria's Altair. It takes the form of light energy rifle outfitted with the then uncommonly used cartridge system, housing up to four cartridges at a time. It had design specifics that were only known to Reban. The A.I. has a young and serious female voice. Regarding its other specs, it has a high amount of targeting and control-amplification capability. Reban claimed that Altair and Vega would only work in their best potential when used by Almaria and Aurion; and this turned out to be true. Its portable mode takes the form of a V-shaped pendant attached to a chain necklace. Aurion carries it around by having it wrapped around his left wrist instead of his neck. This is for almost instant access to it whenever it is needed; enabling him to whip out the rifle-device with just a flick of the wrist.


Fighting Style: Despite having very decent magic potential and combat skills, Aurion preferred to fight tactically even on the frontlines. He liked using combinations of illusion and temperature manipulation spells, essentially confusing the opponent and holding them in place with simple but effective ice spells/binds to be easily hit by finishing blows. His defenses were solid, and his speed was pretty decent. His attack capabilities were more suited for single-hit technical blows rather than battery attacks. He had particularly excellent control over few high-powered remote shot spells; being able to control them even at semi-sniping range. When close quarters combat is unavoidable, he usually surrounds himself with some Stinger Blades and uses the MEB (Magic Energy Bayonet) on Vega in order to gain distance. Given the right position, he is capable of bringing down much tougher opponents by using opportune openings and observed weaknesses to strike.

His performance becomes several times more impressive when paired with Almaria. The two of them seems to share a strange connection that allows them to work together like a single entity. The extent of their compatibility is so great that when teamed up, they can take on enemies that exceed their overall prowess. Despite the number of Almaria’s bullets and Aurion’s illusions, they never slip in their synch and functions amazingly well.

Going by standard analysis, Aurion has the less powerful Linker Core of the two. His focus is primarily on tactical offense, preferring high-power singular shots over several lower-powered ones. He also has a higher casting speed and has higher power spells when compared to her. His defenses are standard but very sturdy.

His trigger phrase is, “Attack!”

Spoiler for Spectrum 4: Almaria Corvette:

Name: Almaria Corvette
Nickname: Alma-chan, Prancing Pistol Princess
Callsign: Spectrum 4
Position: Range Attacker
Gender: Female
Age: 18 (17 years prior to StrikerS)
Birthday: 29th March in the Earth Calendar
Occupation/s: TSAB Enforcer (17 years ago). Now deceased.
Rankings: Registered mage ranking: Air mage: AAA+
Height: 5’4”
Weight: 104 lbs.
Skin: Rosy white
Eyes: Light Blue
Hair: Lavender. Similar but longer compared to Hayate’s hair
Magic style: Mid-Childa
Magic Color: Lavender
Usual wear: A thick long-sleeved white cotton blouse, a black skirt that reaches slightly above the knees, short white socks and a pair of soft boots
Specialization: Ranged combat
Device: Altair
Seiyuu: Atsuko Enomoto (Yukine Miyazawa from CLANNAD)

Profile: A very calm, quiet and level-headed person. Almaria was a childhood friend of Aurion. They grew up together at the same orphanage. She recruited in TSAB four months after Aurion does. She had about as much, or possibly even more talent than Aurion, quickly catching up with him in rank despite the difference in their time of enlisting. She got transferred from the Air Force to the Navy a full year before Aurion did, becoming an elite Ace of the Naval Forces in TSAB while Aurion became an Ace of the Air Forces. She was well known for her distinctively graceful combat style. She and Aurion became an item the year when he transferred to the Navy and became an Enforcer as well. Her last position before her untimely demise was as Spectrum 4 of the Spectral Enforcers.


Personality: As mentioned earlier, she is a very benign person; rarely ever seen angry. And even when angry, she’s almost just as quiet as ever. However, there’s a noticeable aura of light hostility at those times. Despite her quietness, she’s actually quite confident and can carry herself with dignity almost all of the time. She was actually the subject of attraction for many males in the Division (despite her tender age), but she never gave them much notice. She almost always uses ‘-san’ when addressing anyone, only dropping the honorific when around Aurion. She’s rarely ever seen without her, as several people say, ‘charmingly gentle smile’. She was also very helpful and gracious to the people around her.

Despite her commendable poise, she is extremely uncomfortable with any physical contact with almost anyone; with only some rare exceptions like children. She’s also slightly claustrophobic, as she loves being able to move freely without any restraints. At times, she spaces out and sways slightly on the spot whilst humming when doing nothing; needing a poke or two to shake her out of her stupor. She likes small animals (even snakes, crocodiles and other non-pet animals) but gets nervous around big ones. Her cooking skills are good, though she oftentimes falls into her humming-swaying daze while cooking food with long cooking times, resulting in burnt dishes. Suffice to say, she’s an excellent soldier, but becomes a bit of a klutz with more mundane tasks.

As a fighter, she is frighteningly efficient and can land killing blows without batting an eyelash. However, she has a habit of whispering “Gomenasai…” before a kill, and she also enters a state of incredible sadness after such acts, praying for the souls of those whose lives she took. She does not like killing, but understood that she had duties as a soldier. She sometimes cries in her sleep because of this.

Interestingly, she’s the only person whom the then antisocial Aurion seemed to act relaxed around; even to the extent of smiling constantly and teasing her. And what’s even more interesting was the fact that she acted ‘so enthrallingly cute that you’ll get woozy just watching her’ around him, highlighting the fact of the close bond they shared as childhood friends. They also like sparring against each other. The last score is 35-32 in Aurion’s favor. Aurion is also the only person Almaria willingly has physical contact with. (Non-risqué, mind you. Just the friendly physical intimacy like clinging to his arm and such.)


To make things clearer, about just how they interact, here are some instances…
a) Almaria would uncharacteristically boast about being one year older than Aurion.
b) Aurion actually being completely laid-back. This was an absolute rarity in those times.
c) Almaria actually being whiney and “fatally cute” according to her admirers.
d) Aurion actually being actively competitive for once.

And the list goes on…


Relationships: She was well-known as a very approachable person; and was very popular with plenty of admirers. She was exceptionally close with Aurion, where most people noted that the two of the ‘changes dramatically’ in demeanor around each other. There was once a person who said, “Corvette and Dauer… One, a very delicate but resilient flower, the other a steadfast and silent barricade; but when you put them together, one will see a most amazing bond between them. Their normally professional exteriors melts away to reveal an unrealistically ideal pair, but also just as deadly as they are close to each other. They don’t express their bond in the usual way of almost constant physical contact or exchanging sweet words, but just seeing them close to each other almost radiates a glow mutual perception… The perfect partners of hope to comrades and death to enemies.” It should be noted that this person was deadpanned by a nonchalant Aurion while Almaria was blushed furiously at the comment.

Poetry aside, they were really an almost perfect pair; both as people and as combatants. They worked practically flawlessly when in tandem, even at one time defeating two more-experienced S-ranked opponents despite the difference in rank, power and skill. Their abilities in combat as a pair was unbelievably good, one being a tactical and systematic aggressor and the other being a graceful range-attacker; both functioning as a single harmonized entity; almost as if having the same mind. Their lack of any melee specialization almost meant nothing when one sees them, as they support each other so well that they seemed to have a counter for just about anything, even covering flaws that both of them shared. In fact, they just worked TOO well as a team that it was almost inhuman. When asked, Almaria only said:

Spoiler for Answer:

“Uhmm… I’m not really sure why… I just know what Aurion will do when we work together… And I’m sure the same applies for him…” *blushes* “I never felt such a sure and secure connection with anyone… whether it be mental or spiritual…” *smiles* “It’s very… reassuring.”

This was quite an oddity by those times; seeing as they seemed to be connected so well to the extent that they can actually feel each other’s presence when they are in similar locations… Some tests were run on the two, yet nothing out of the ordinary was found.

They spend their birthdays (which falls on the same date) together if possible; opting for a simple lunch or anything of the sort. It was actually the reason why they got acquainted. They were always like that since childhood, being clueless about the teasing chides of the older children around them. Aurion caught up with the meaning of the innuendo before Almaria, but wasn’t bothered and opted to let Almaria find out for herself for a good laugh later. Needless to say, Almaria spent a good time of the day with her flushed face buried in her hands upon realization. This habit continued until they became Enforcers, incurring the wrath of many of her suitors.

She also held a lot of respect for the researcher, Reban Innova; who was responsible for bringing her and Aurion into TSAB service in the first place. She and Aurion both seem to feel a strangely calming aura around the elderly man. This person is also the one responsible for creating Aurion and Almaria’s custom devices, namely Vega and Altair. She considers the Spectral Enforcers as the family she never had.


Barrier Jacket: She was a most noticeable figure in the Spectral Enforcers, owing to the fact that her Barrier Jacket was the only one that wasn’t an offshoot of the standard Enforcer BJ design. Her outfit contained a mostly rosy white sleeved vest with lavender accents that reaches a few inches down her waist. Her arms had lightly decorated bracers, the hands having black fingerless gloves with white knuckle-guards and her combat boots were of the lightweight type and that reached halfway up her calves. Both bracers and boots had similar color schemes to her vest. Her legs were adorned with black cycling shorts that reached halfway down her thighs. She had it designed specifically to allow her maximum mobility and flexibility during combat.

Unsurprisingly, the outfit also had the added effect (actually a nuisance, according to Aurion) of drawing the eyes of the males in then male-dominated Naval Corps. Almaria, despite being a tad embarrassed, amiably brushed off the minor irritant as irrelevant when compared to the performance boost she obtains in such a design.

Device: Intelligent Device: Altair:

Spoiler for Altair looks somewhat like this...:

One of the two specialized experimental devices made by the researcher Reban Innova; the other being Aurion’s Vega. It takes the form of an energy pistol with two opposable barrels. It is outfitted with the then uncommonly used cartridge system, housing up to four cartridges at a time. It had design specifics that were only known to Reban. The A.I. has a young and polite male voice. Regarding its other specs, it has a high amount of targeting and control-amplification capability. Reban claimed that Altair and Vega would only work in their best potential when used by Almaria and Aurion; and this turned out to be true. Its portable mode takes the form of an A-shaped pendant attached to a beaded necklace.

Fighting Style: As mentioned above, her fighting style is like distinctively graceful trance. Where she seems to be simply swaying and dipping gracefully; very much like dancing whilst firing precision shots. Her movements are elegant as she seemingly weaves through attacks at a hairsbreadth of hitting her. Her barriers are impressively maneuverable, being able to deflect smaller shots and even acts as makeshift springboards if she needs to dodge quickly. Her most impressive magical skill though has to be her attacks. She oftentimes fire off moderate to high-power projectiles that are almost always quite small but have high precision and power. During close-quarters combat, when enough of these shots are in the air, an area of ten meters around her becomes an equally beautiful and deadly projectile-saturated zone. In this stage, she fully enters a trance where she dances inside the projectile deathzone, almost assuring that anybody else trapped there without suitable defenses is defeated in short order. Her degree of control over her shots is heightened by Altair’s specialized design, allowing her to control several dozen projectiles while still moving with apparent ease. Even to the point that she actually shoots herself with the controlled bullets, dodging them at the last second and making them hit her opponents instead; essentially using her own body as the enemy’s blind spot. The Lavender orbs of energy shifts at varying speeds, shifting and swirling, creating a tantalizing sight to behold.

Aurion seems to be the only person to be able to handle her techniques easily, seeing as how he usually works with her style every time they are fighting together. Not being an outright offensive mage, he tends to use pinpoint tactical shots on certain spots that allow him to stage a multi-step surgical strike. This exchange either ends up in Aurion getting hit by multiple projectiles and losing or managing to capture Almaria in a bind or hitting her with a high-knockdown power shot that ruins her mobility and eventually her trance, essentially winning him the match (Aurion has been seen to defend well against Almaria’s bullets when she loses concentration). Amusingly, she gets mad at some instances where Aurion wins. Not because of the fact that she loses, but because Aurion always ends the said matches with binds on her, which she dislikes. Aurion does not change this style due to the facts that it’s one of the most efficient way in dealing against her ‘dances’ and also just to irritate her; even going as far as not releasing her from her bonds for a few minutes even after the sparring has ended.

Her performance becomes several times more impressive when paired with Aurion. The two of them seems to share a strange connection that allows them to work together like a single entity. The extent of their compatibility is so great that when teamed up, they can take on enemies that exceed their overall prowess. Despite the number of Almaria’s bullets and Aurion’s illusions, they never slip in their synch and functions amazingly well.

Going by standard analysis, Almaria has the more powerful Linker Core of the two. Her focus is primarily on agile offense, preferring several lower-powered shots over high-power singular ones. However, Aurion has a noticeably faster casting time and slightly more powerful attacks than her. Her defenses are relatively decent. However, she is a bit lacking on the tactical aspects of combat, due to her reliance on her relatively omni-directional offense capabilities to cover her blind spots. This is the field where Aurion clearly trumps her aside from having better defense and speed.

Her trigger phrase is, “Burst!”

Spoiler for Spectrum 5: Glemy Grant:

Name: Glemy Grant
Nickname: Glem-kun, Suaveshot
Callsign: Spectrum 5
Position: Sniper
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birthday: 5th June in the Earth Calendar
Occupation/s: TSAB Enforcer (17 years ago). Now deceased.
Rankings: Registered mage ranking: Air Mage: AA+
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 163 lbs.
Skin: Tanned
Eyes: Green
Hair: Blonde, short cropped
Magic style: Mid-Childa
Magic Color: Pale Green
Usual wear: TSAB Enforcer Uniform (It augments of my charm!)
Specialization: Long-range Combat
Intelligent Device: Artemisia
Seiyuu: Hiroshi Kamiya (Michael Blanc from Macross Frontier)

Profile: <to be updated>

Personality: <to be updated>

Relationships: <to be updated>

Device: <to be updated>

Fighting Style: <to be updated>

Spoiler for Spectrum 6: Prairie Auster:

Name: Prairie Auster
Nickname: Prei-chan, Preistess
Callsign: Spectrum 6
Position: Fullback Supporter
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birthday: 9th January in the Earth Calendar
Occupation/s: TSAB Enforcer (17 years ago). Now deceased.
Rankings: Registered mage ranking: Composite: AA-
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 134 lbs.
Skin: Fair
Eyes: Brown
Hair: Auburn
Magic style: Mid-Childa
Magic Color: Beige
Usual wear: Usually a simple long dress with long white stockings
Specialization: Support Magic
Boost Device: Penthiselia
Seiyuu: Sayaka Ohara (Alicia Florence from ARIA)

Profile: <to be updated>

Personality: <to be updated>

Relationships: <to be updated>

Device: <to be updated>

Fighting Style: <to be updated>

I'll build their profiles along the way. I think I'll alternate working between GenerationS and this to keep up the creative juices flowing without getting stuck as much. I'll also introduce some links between the two arcs later.

You took this chance to show off?

Originally Posted by Mirron

2. Good. Velka just seems more magical to me. Perhaps I just like the letter V though. Wiki seems a bit small, but I can work on that. Velka magic does indeed specialize in close to midrange at best, so I'll need to think along those lines. A weapon will have to be my first goal, although what it will be, I'm not sure. Shame that the weapons I primarily like are already in use, by canon characters, no less.

As for why Velka still exists, I'd say some of my ideas on the idea, but it mainly revolves around the fact that magical combat is a bit different from our style of combat.

*Didn't read about 3 pages of backlogs*

First off, I would like to extend my welcome to you, Welcome Mirron.
Secondly, I'm not sure if you mentioned this before but would you be making an Alternate Universe or would you be following Canon?
Finally, I thought Velka/Belka was more of the melee kind of magic while Mid was like the ranged kind O_O Something like Warrior and Magicians i suppose.
For weapons i suggest swords, polearms, spears etc. all the melee weapons commonly used. Or maybe a knife might be intresting ^^

[Mirron]

I'll try and follow canon as best I can. As for Velka magic, I was basically right. If you're curious, the current plan is a spear weapon with ice magic, probably named Gungnir, but I'm not sure what I can do for an alternate mode or two as far as a spear goes. Although there are lots of spear-like weapons in existence, I'm not sure I want to go with something too similar to the original form, simply because making it different than the basic form in terms of abilities will be difficult if they are similar designs.

[Saint X]

*phases In*

Originally Posted by Mirron

I'd like to make a character, but I have a few questions.

1. Is there an actual RP topic, or is this more to stretch creative ideas?

First of all Welcome to the OCT

- Well there is not, as most of the people have said, but if you can pass ideas on maybe we can work with it.

Originally Posted by Mirron

2. Is there any sort of list of explanations on the magic system? I can't find an English database of Nanoha information, and Wikipedia is only so-so in terms of use. I'm watching the strikers part of the series, and should be done fairly soon. I'm primarily interesting in the Belka system, although I've also seen it typed Velka, so I may use that.

I have my own Explanations on both Mid-Type (MT) and Velka-Type (VT) systems, namely the use of Matter and Energy- those who were in the IRC when i was dicussing about my "classes" should know that division between MT and VT

And also some of us have created thier own Magic Systems, or "Magical Canons" and OCs that fill in those Canons.

I have two OC Magical Canons at the moment, the Dei-Type (DT) and Linear (LT) magic systems- though their own "Master Documents" may never be published here.

The index page is also helpful in checking out things.

as you can see btw, i use V for Velka, sounds nicer and cooler to me

And no Goose, you are not allowed to yell BELKA BELKA BELKA into/on my face!

Originally Posted by Mirron

3. What are the limits, in terms of rank, things like that? I read the intro but I'd like some personal perspectives on this.

Well Magical Rank is theoretically up to SSS- but just to quantify "unknown" i have used the letter "X" but not in Magical Ranking, but rather in Threat Ranking

You can ask us

Originally Posted by Mirron

Oh my, such a long post to my questions. Interesting.

Normal thing though...

Originally Posted by Mirron

1. If there is not a topic, that would explain part of the reason behind my confusion. I would recommend a topic be made, and we figure out some sort of problem. Or, perhaps just live out day to day lives. I'll need to finish Striker before I can say whether it's hard to follow for me. As for the last one, while interesting, sounds like a rather large thing for me to try and read, without having finished the series at least.

Noted, but some of us have that cabapility of doing multitasking like hell

Originally Posted by Mirron

2. Good. Velka just seems more magical to me. Perhaps I just like the letter V though. Wiki seems a bit small, but I can work on that. Velka magic does indeed specialize in close to midrange at best, so I'll need to think along those lines. A weapon will have to be my first goal, although what it will be, I'm not sure. Shame that the weapons I primarily like are already in use, by canon characters, no less.

There are many weapons you can choose from... I've used yoyos and intending to use boomerangs too. a lot of people use other conventional weapons too but some of us have devloped/are developing entire weapon systems.

just ask us.

Originally Posted by Mirron

As for why Velka still exists, I'd say some of my ideas on the idea, but it mainly revolves around the fact that magical combat is a bit different from our style of combat.

let's hear it

Originally Posted by Mirron

3. Well, that much I know. I like fighting more along the lines of Nanoha and Cardcaptors, another anime which has similar feels to it's fighting I feel. Fantastic, but it doesn't feel overpowered. What I'm looking for, I'll need to think about.

Well, well, well... you think on the same level-ish as me then... CCS and Nanoha

Well i might think of something grander...

Originally Posted by Mirron

Thanks for the fast response. And thanks for the other response. The nutshell post was what I had gotten, but it's always nice to have more support. I always feel I think something really different from what is going on.

As always...

One rule with me, PM ME

Originally Posted by Mirron

I apparently need to watch here more. My usual habit of posting once in a while and watching anime might not work as well if people keep posting this fast.

WATCH FASTER GUNDAM!!!

Originally Posted by Mirron

Cardcaptors is really powerful? I only followed the second season of Sailor Moon at most, and I was too young to remember anything about it, except that I wanted special powers as well, I believe. Of course, some things in CCS are over the top. The Shield and The Sword, for one. But Nanoha is really weaker compared to CCS? I never got that feeling, unless you look at the ways the Clow can be used, I suppose, in devious ways.

Fly, Fight, Sword, Shield, Power and Dash....

Not to mention that Shot is equals to a A's level Divine Buster under true powering and the Arrow is *static*

SaintX loves this combo and laughs wildly

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

And Since I ain't there, there won't be spamming of Macross crack.

MACROSS CRACK KINSHI!

Originally Posted by Kha

And it's done!

CODEX: DAEMONJAEGERS
DER KLERIKER KRONICLES
3rd Edition

I have reduced that file from you 44mb to a mere 2% of its former size....

Originally Posted by Mirron

Also, people here like the second season a lot? I have to yell at someone, who said most people disliked the second, and loved the third.

To me, StrikerS was massive Fail...

oh well to each his own

*phases out*

[arkhangelsk]

Originally Posted by Keroko

And how many did we see? Even the three admirals have no qualms against Rf6, in fact Admiral Mizetto rather likes Hayate.

There are the three admirals, one of which rather likes Hayate too. The only knowing these have of Hayate and co? One escort mission. Well, that and records off course.

And they've also met a long time ago. Further, the three admirals are so high up the scale they have no conflict of interest anymore, so they aren't a great comparison.

[quote]Its more that I loathe chat programs with a fiery passion rather then being traditional. Main reasonis that I have a relatively low typing speed then most chatters, meaning that I usually can't get a word in between or otherwise have to correct myself because other people got ahead of me. -_- Its very demotivating, and quite honestly, I like the 'I'll post when I feel like posting' flow of a forum because I don't have to pay atention all the time.

Definitely agree on that last point.

Hey, you never heard me say that Knight Armor is a weaker defence then Knight's Garb, but how you say that Barrier Jackets are weaker then Knight Armor eludes me. There are various levels of Barrier Jackets, some are more geared towards high defence (Nanoha, Subaru, Teana) some more to high speed (Fate, Erio, Caro) . These are different types of Barrier Jackets with different parameters, and since they're not called 'Knight's Garb' there is no way to say they are weaker in terms of defence. Indeed, one could theoryze that Nanoha, Subaru and Teana are wearing the Mid variant of Knight's Armor, while Fate, Erio and Caro are wearing the Mid variant of Knight's Garb. The reasoning behind this lies in the booklets:



Actually, scratch that. "heavy armor?" "high manouverabillity?" This sounds exactly like the difference between Knights Armor and Knights Garb. This practically confirms that Nanoha, Teana and Subaru are wearing Mid versions of Knights Armor, while Fate, Erio and Caro are wearing the Mid versions of Knights Garb.

Well, that's my translation so I think I can't nitpick it too cruelly

If we assume Knight's Armor really means our usual mental image of armor - you know, at least moderately hard stuff, its superior defensive properties against physical blows, all else being equal, is mandated by physics.

The quote tells us more about Mid's warped conception of "armor" than anything else.

And get trashed into physical walls, protect against physical punches and kicks from the Sentoukijin (note that these are the same attacks that have the strength to slam people through concrete) I do agree that what is meant by armor is the magical defence, but then, that has always been my point.

I've always contended for AD with those, and you agree w/ me, since you yourself had brought up two scenes where we clearly see the shock defense limits of the BJ against Terran materials, thus confirming that the Nanoverse has not managed to completely break away from physics and physiology and allowing us to solve the rest of the cases with deduction.

Ah, see, that's because you know the jargon. What may seem like a natural thing to say to you may go whoosh with the rest of us.

The reverse also hold true, a great deal of Kha's crack (minus the 40k stuff, which was my fault anyway) makes sense to me because I know the backgrounds of the various anime and games used.

Aah, but Milspeak is from real life, which means it is actually useful. 40k speak is good only for 40k.

Actually, you answered the question to how I got the idea that you were saying that everyone would hate RF6. 'Everybody who RF6 made to look bad' which is... well... basically every unit in the TSAB.

I must ask. How did RF6 make anyone look bad (in canon)? Their case blew up in their faces and escalated into a world crisis!

The only man who managed to make anyone look really bad in all of StrikerS is Acous, who apparently found Scarlietti's dugout w/i a week where Fate and Nakajima could not for months...

Goose, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I talk about Miltaku crack. Yes, in real life such things have happened, but we are not working with real life here, we are working with an anime, and as such we need to prove such things happen in the anime first before we go and alter things. Right now, there is no proof whatsoever that every unit RF6 made to look bad would hate them.

All right, so we are expected to stretch the horribly small sample size and assume it is universal to all of the TSAB, overriding the usual RL-extrapolative algorithms. Fine.

To select one consequence that matters to you, since there is no proof of tactical competence in the TSAB, we can't have any OCs with tactical competence. Say good-bye to Tesla, or rewrite her until she's as much of a dumba*s as the others.

In fact, there are already more known RF6 haters than there are confirmed tactically competent people (at best, we have people who have not yet made total fools of themselves) ... There are also more known RF6 haters than there are users of "Aspect Magic" while we are at it... Get my drift?

By the way, I won't call this one Miltaku, just realist.

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Keroko

And how many did we see? Even the three admirals have no qualms against Rf6, in fact Admiral Mizetto rather likes Hayate.

Oh come off it they mention that Hayate had a mission with ONE OF THEM and that they got on reasonable well. That's along way from "loving" them or actively supporting them and they say NOTHING about the other two. You've still got buttkiss.

Its more that I loathe chat programs with a fiery passion rather then being traditional. Main reason is that I have a relatively low typing speed then most chatters, meaning that I usually can't get a word in between or otherwise have to correct myself because other people got ahead of me. -_- Its very demotivating, and quite honestly, I like the 'I'll post when I feel like posting' flow of a forum because I don't have to pay attention all the time.

That's your issue frankly while the chat can get busy sometimes it's acutally fairly laid back most time and people know each other and so tend not to randomly cut each other off in mid stream.

Hey, you never heard me say that Knight Armor is a weaker defence then Knight's Garb, but how you say that Barrier Jackets are weaker then Knight Armor eludes me.

The fact we have a canon quote saying that something that's functionally identical to a barrier jacket provides inferior protection? Oh you mean BESIDES that?

There are various levels of Barrier Jackets, some are more geared towards high defence (Nanoha, Subaru, Teana) some more to high speed (Fate, Erio, Caro) . These are different types of Barrier Jackets with different parameters,

So an armor with "High defense" entails nearly skin tight clothing that leaves large parts of bare skin exposed while one meant for "speed" involves covering almost the entire body in a thick pretty baggy coat and adding a thick overcoat on top of that?

and since they're not called 'Knight's Garb' there is no way to say they are weaker in terms of defence.

Oh come off it LOOK AT IT it's the same fucking thing! You even tried to sue Signums "Knight Grab" as an example back in the BJ debate!

Indeed, one could theoryze that Nanoha, Subaru and Teana are wearing the Mid variant of Knight's Armor, while Fate, Erio and Caro are wearing the Mid variant of Knight's Garb. The reasoning behind this lies in the booklets:

OR one could instead say that since "knight garb" looks and functions exactly like a fucking BJ you've got that ass backwards and the Knights are all wearing the Belkan version of a BJ.

Actually, scratch that. "heavy armor?" "high manouverabillity?" This sounds exactly like the difference between Knights Armor and Knights Garb. This practically confirms that Nanoha, Teana and Subaru are wearing Mid versions of Knights Armor, while Fate, Erio and Caro are wearing the Mid versions of Knights Garb.

Perhaps in your twisted little world it dose, but not to anyone with common sense. Heavy armor relative to WHAT? A Tiger tank has “Heavy Armor and High output (firepower)”… by the standards of World War II. Though I’m still busy laughing my ass off at how a tube top and short shorts are apparently “heavy armor” and better protection then a thick jacket and body covering overcoat.

There are the three admirals, one of which rather likes Hayate too. The only knowing these have of Hayate and co? One escort mission. Well, that and records off course.

Which makes it highly questionable if they'd care that much either way I'd think that liking was more in a "Ah what a cute little girl" sort of deal then a "what a competent and able military commander I shall back her to the hilt in all her endeavors." and I'd note that you managed to come up with one vague and borderline case when challenged way to refute my point.

*wikkies* Hey! I resent that! I rather like my laptops, consoles and handhelds thank you very much. I'm just not as lazy as you are when it comes to physical movement.

Or you're just too superstitious and silly to realize that an enclosed climate controlled cabin powered by the energy of a hundred horses is a superior mode of transport.

Ah, see, that's because you know the jargon. What may seem like a natural thing to say to you may go whoosh with the rest of us.

The reverse also hold true, a great deal of Kha's crack (minus the 40k stuff, which was my fault anyway) makes sense to me because I know the backgrounds of the various anime and games used.

Which allot of us DON'T and so it's just as bad, even worse really since it's harder to go look up or learn about.

Actually, you answered the question to how I got the idea that you were saying that everyone would hate RF6. 'Everybody who RF6 made to look bad' which is... well... basically every unit in the TSAB.

I'd still disagree with that RF6 managed to save themselves from total disgrace, but there overall mandate was hardly executed flawlessly as mentioned. Having your headquarters blown up, the enemy stealing an extremely important person from you, and then wrecking huge portions of your capital city isn't normally consider a rousing successes.

The public might still view them as heroes or super soldiers, but that's because most of the public is idiots where military matters are concern. People still celebrate Custer's Last Stand which is nothing but a tragedy of ego, overconfidence, and idiocy. Inside the military proper there standing is probably worse off for RF:6 people that knew and supported them will probably be able to see they where working under some artificial handicaps, but even so there performance was merely passable not stellar.

And get trashed into physical walls, protect against physical punches and kicks from the Sentoukijin (note that these are the same attacks that have the strength to slam people through concrete) I do agree that what is meant by armor is the magical defence, but then, that has always been my point.

Except a bulletproof vest ALSO protects from punches and kicks by spreading the impact across the vest widening the surface area affected, but knives and rifle rounds still slice right through it. It’s possible a jacket does this more efficiently and so may provide superior blunt impact protection, but that said it’s still not that great. I can’t recall a single instance were simple punches doing what you claim IMO they’re always boosted by magic or something like it when they we they do anything notable and the BJ might well blunt the magical competent of these reducing the overall damage. There’s also the fact that since jackets are flexible even hits they block are going to HURT and could crack ribs or scramble your oranges if they’re too big since the jacket is merely spreading the impact not acutally stopping or resisting it.

If you’re going to be attacked with an edged weapon, bullets, or high intensity directed energy weapons though a BJ is not effective protection. This is shown over and over by mages always either dodging, intercepting, or using barriers against even the fairly low level conventional weapons used by drones and the TOTAL worthlessness of the jacket against a bladed weapon as shown by the attack on Vita (and Nanoha herself several years earlier).

Also by "magical defense" I meant protection against glowly energy bolts and such not your asinine "invisible force feild of power" crap.

Goose, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I talk about Miltaku crack. Yes, in real life such things have happened, but we are not working with real life here, we are working with an anime, and as such we need to prove such things happen in the anime first before we go and alter things. Right now, there is no proof whatsoever that every unit RF6 made to look bad would hate them.

We're talking about an anmie about PEOPLE in all senses basiclly identical to modern humans and we have LEGIONS of examples from ever aspect of human endeavor of how humans get jealous when people show them up or muscle in on there turf. If you refuse to accept this based on the fact this is an anime so apparently normal human psychology dosen't apply you're a idiot of the highest magnitude. If we toss out human nature and psychology it's impossible to write anyway since such things are the entire basis for all character interaction in fiction.

Use brain here Keroko and think about what you're saying I'm reasonably sure you're smart enough to realize how stupid the above statement is if you actually read it over.

Originally Posted by Wildgoose

Basically you take the PS2 dvd, extract it to the hard drive, and apply the translation patch, which overwrites gamefiles. You then burn the extracted ISO back onto another DVD, and then play, keeping your original ISO as a master copy.

Wasn’t that simple last time I check you needed either a mod chip or software and a hardware modification, and or a somewhat risky procedure involving what amounts to a glorified plastic hook and a steady hand to override the built in copy protection and play ripped games. Unless there’s been some breakthrough in the last year or two I haven’t heard of regarding cracking PS2 disk authentication.

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by Tk3997

We're talking about an anmie about PEOPLE in all senses basiclly identical to modern humans and we have LEGIONS of examples from ever aspect of human endeavor of how humans get jealous when people show them up or muscle in on there turf. If you refuse to accept this based on the fact this is an anime so apparently normal human psychology dosen't apply you're a idiot of the highest magnitude. If we toss out human nature and psychology it's impossible to write anyway since such things are the entire basis for all character interaction in fiction.

Use brain here Keroko and think about what you're saying I'm reasonably sure you're smart enough to realize how stupid the above statement is if you actually read it over.

Just because an anime is about people doesn't mean that it's immediately parallel to real life.

The best we can do is take a look at how the people in that anime act, and then extrapolate from there. Which, in turn, depends on how idealistic/cynical you want to be.

After all, take a look at Card Captor Sakura, which is indeed an anime (set in the present day) about people, and then start listing the differences between the character interactions there and the character interactions in Real Life. If it can happen with one anime, it can happen with others, including MSLN.

[Kha]

To sum up the various points of argument: Chill fellas, these kind of arguments will no longer get us anywhere.

[ghazghkull]

Originally Posted by -Fate-

Anyway, a few pages back (uhhh...actually about 20 pages or so....), one of the members asked me to draw a full bodied sketch of Fate's Sonic EXA Form and her Plasma Form. So, here it is. This is the final design for the Plasma Form and Bardiche Delta Form. It looks quite different compared to the first version (for those of you who have seen it). XD

Full bodied sketch of Sonic EXA Form with Bardiche Haken Form:

Spoiler:

Plasma Form and Bardiche Delta Form:

Spoiler:

Fate still has a cape but shorter than ever. Among the sketches that I've done, this one took me a long time to finish T__T

Wow!! Very nice!!!!!! XD

Very well done! Although the wide cuffs, that does seem quite impractical, considering that it'll more than likely just be a hindrance to Fate's combat abilities. Despite the sex appeal the barrier jackets had, they were still designed for functionality.

At least from what I could tell based on the way the Garb/Armour/Jackets were designed anyways.

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by Kha

To sum up the various points of argument: Chill fellas, these kind of arguments will no longer get us anywhere.

No, but they keep turning up every time anyway.

I don't know why. It serves little purpose other than backbiting and ad hominems, which drives up the noise ratio I've always complained about.

-

I need a better vocabulary when it comes to writing combat scenes.

[Sheba]

The instant Regius has entered the picture, the writers has broadened the scope of potential human interaction beyond skittles and marshmallows. They have shown that, yes, there are people and camarillas in the TSAB who dislike the Aces, or even RF6, for whatever reason. And parallels can be drawn from not just real life but also in many works of fiction, like Legend of Galactic Heroes, X-Files or even House. If you guys thought that Regius is a dick, I think he is just a tree in the forrest; the possibility that Fate can be framed by the TSAB equivalent of Internal Affairs, that Hayate can be backstabbed by hidden factions for petty reasons, etc, is still up in the air. And should not be denied with "hey, it's just a magical girl show". If Nanoha S1 & S2 is your naive child, StrikerS is your teenager discovering the cruelty of adult world.

[ghazghkull]

Originally Posted by Sheba

The instant Regius has entered the picture, the writers has broadened the scope of potential human interaction beyond skittles and marshmallows. They have shown that, yes, there are people and camarillas in the TSAB who dislike the Aces, or even RF6, for whatever reason. And parallels can be drawn from not just real life but also in many works of fiction, like Legend of Galactic Heroes, X-Files or even House. If you guys thought that Regius is a dick, I think he is just a tree in the forrest; the possibility that Fate can be framed by the TSAB equivalent of Internal Affairs, that Hayate can be backstabbed by hidden factions for petty reasons, etc, is still up in the air. And should not be denied with "hey, it's just a magical girl show". If Nanoha S1 & S2 is your naive child, StrikerS is your teenager discovering the cruelty of adult world.

Interesting analogy of S1/S2 and S3.

[Mirron]

Thank you Saint for the latter answer, and I'm glad I'm not alone in the Velka department. On CCS, I did know it had lots of overpowered abilities, but I tend to not think about it. As for my character, spears are what I decided on, and I'm probably going to do an extended mode, akin to Vita's giant mode, and some other mode, although what I'm not sure. I'll need to think about it still. And I might take even longer to get to this character due to the lack of time I have online.

[dkellis]

However, I'd like to write a StrikerS story from the viewpoint that in the end, Everything Will Be All Right. Idealistic, optimistic, and, as mentioned, "skittles and marshmallows".

I believe that I have the right to do this and not be criticized for it, because I don't think that it factually contradicts canon. If it does, please let me know, with detailed cited sources.

[Keroko]

'Mokay, a bit too many people dived into my posts to quote them.

To sum up: My biggest problem with the 'higher-ups would hate RF6' is the contradiction that apears in my eyes with the treatment the Aces recieved in the past. Being elite mages, they were praised and recieved promotions because of their elite status. If everyone, including the higher ranks (who gave them those promotions) 'loved' the Aces like that, why would that suddenly turn into resentment when they join one unit?

That's what I don't understand about this in a nutshell.

*dives into backlog*

[ghazghkull]

Originally Posted by Keroko

'Mokay, a bit too many people dived into my posts to quote them.

To sum up: My biggest problem with the 'higher-ups would hate RF6' is the contradiction that apears in my eyes with the treatment the Aces recieved in the past. Being elite mages, they were praised and recieved promotions because of their elite status. If everyone, including the higher ranks (who gave them those promotions) 'loved' the Aces like that, why would that suddenly turn into resentment when they join one unit?

That's what I don't understand about this in a nutshell.

*dives into backlog*

The higher-ups as a whole, maybe.

But do not forget, that despite the majority of them may love the aces, there will always be people who do not think like the majority.

It's like a vote. Oh sure a lot of people has voted for one thing, but there is always that small percentage of people who do not support that one thing the majority has voted. It could be because they just don't like it, or maybe because they think it's something that shouldn't even be there in the first place, or is something that is ruining the "status quo" so to speak.

Then look at it at the level of peers.

Oh sure, they may be number one on the block, loved by many. But never, never in human nature, will those people be loved by all. We can claim it to be so, because it's the majority. But there will always be people who hate them for what they are good at. It's natural to dislike or despise a peer that's better than you. It's just human nature.

That is the issue of this argument.

Despite it being a Magical Girl anime, there is still aspects of human nature that we just cannot ignore that is integrated into the series.

We do that, and then it just becomes an ideal anime that doesn't follow the what has been established so far in anime.