(L) Freezing [Manga]

[Tachibana]

Spoiler for Clarification:

Elizabeth and Arnett felt violated because Kazuya bended them to his will. Satellizer defended Kazuya but Arnett demanded an explanation and Kazuya told them about what he had done and apologized, Elizabeth understood but was still freaked out, Arnett was of course being a hothead and had threaten him but Ticy intervened and explained that without his help they would all be dead but Arnett argues that even though Ticy was fine with it she isn't, and Ticy further explains that she had felt the same thing but she understood.

[ryuuya]

is this true that project arcadia is kazuya half sister ?

[amtro]

Project Arcadia is both Kazuya and his supposed half sister. The aim of the project is the transcendence of humanity through hybridism with nova. Ryuichi and the LP are all prototypes in a way, Kazuha is a failed subject as her stigma body was badly developed.

[nooneagain]

I understand both Kazuya and the pandoras. It was unpleasant, but it's the only way.

[Tempest35]

The only way at this time. The process was field-tested and it worked perfectly - it's just the moral standpoint that is hindering it because none of them knew the extent of Kazuya's control to subvert the will of the Pandoras. Arnett's just a hot-head and the fact that Kazuya doesn't really know how it all works will make explanations really tedious unless Grandpa Gengo explains it for him. In which case, they might trust him even less.

And Kazuya can't explain all that stuff about his family - not yet. There's some serious shit that happened back then that could ruin the Aoi family and the Pandora project all in one go if leaked out. Just the amount of Human Rights violations within that story would be enough to close the entire Pandora project.

[Yorae_paladin1]

Originally Posted by amtro

Project Arcadia is both Kazuya and his supposed half sister. The aim of the project is the transcendence of humanity through hybridism with nova. Ryuichi and the LP are all prototypes in a way, Kazuha is a failed subject as her stigma body was badly developed.

Seriously? Hybridized? the imperial guardsman in me says HERESY!!!! and murder Gengo brutally.

and in some ways i agree with arnett.

sure that let them live but at what price

Originally Posted by Tempest35

The only way at this time. The process was field-tested and it worked perfectly - it's just the moral standpoint that is hindering it because none of them knew the extent of Kazuya's control to subvert the will of the Pandoras. Arnett's just a hot-head and the fact that Kazuya doesn't really know how it all works will make explanations really tedious unless Grandpa Gengo explains it for him. In which case, they might trust him even less.

And Kazuya can't explain all that stuff about his family - not yet. There's some serious shit that happened back then that could ruin the Aoi family and the Pandora project all in one go if leaked out. Just the amount of Human Rights violations within that story would be enough to close the entire Pandora project.

The reason in halo the spartan 2 projects biggest secret that the spartan were child soldiers was kept under lock and key if that was found out anyone involved gets there heads on pikes by morning no matter that they saved the world.

[ryuuya]

i just hope kazuya half sister won't be doing the same ouka when she introduce herself to other people

[Tachibana]

For some reason I can't help but imagine Kazuya's younger sister being all yandere for him and Cassandra.

[ryuuya]

kazuya needs to properly introduce satellizer to his aunt

[DragonOsman]

Originally Posted by Tachibana

For some reason I can't help but imagine Kazuya's younger sister being all yandere for him and Cassandra.

I seriously hope not. Mainly because I'm shipping Kazuya with Stella. A harem with Stella as the "Harem Leader," along with Rana and that other girl from the Valkyries who loves Kazuya also being in the harem (although, since it's only three girls, it probably won't count as a full-on harem) would be even better.

And I don't want any incest-related stuff happening, either. We already have enough of that with Kazuya seemingly liking Stella because she reminds him of Kazuha due to the fact that she has the Heroic Stigmata (which came from Kazuha). I hope that even if this is even remotely the case, it still doesn't really mean that Kazuya is really a siscon. I'd really hate that.

And yes, I do think that the white-haired girl in that pod, Kazuya's "supposed" half-sister, actually is his half-sister. After all, it's pretty obvious that she's the result of Ryuuichi raping Cassandra.

@Yorae: While I do understand where Arnett is coming from, I mainly support the Pandora who defended Kazuya. Arnett's just a hot-head - even if she understands deep down that Kazuya isn't completely bad or wrong, she still wouldn't really admit it because he's a hot-head and it's more in character for her to act that way.

Anyway, Tachibana, thanks for that clarification.

How did the Limiters take it? Will they antagonize Kazuya, or will they be able to understand him, as well as what he did and why?

And also, if Kazuya really can't explain how his power works, then hopefully Gengo gets there soon so he can fill them in on it. Especially if Kazuya's inability to explain it well will make them trust him less, which would be bad.

Edit: One post late.
@Ryuuga: If you mean he should introduce her as his girlfriend and the one he wants to marry (if he does feel that way about her), then I agree. But shouldn't Cassandra already be aware? Unless she's surprisingly dense about these things.

[Tachibana]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

How did the Limiters take it? Will they antagonize Kazuya, or will they be able to understand him, as well as what he did and why?

Spoiler for reply:

Their limiters are pretty much speechless at this point. Though to them it might be similar to having your girl ntr'ed by another guy, once they understand what's going on.

[DragonOsman]

Spoiler for reply:

Ah, I see. Thanks for the answer, and yes, I can see that as being likely, too. But can't their respective Pandora partners and Kazuya reason with them? It'll be hard, but I think it can be done. But we still need Gengo coming in ASAP to explain to them how Kazuya's powers work and all.

[Tachibana]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Spoiler for reply:

Ah, I see. Thanks for the answer, and yes, I can see that as being likely, too. But can't their respective Pandora partners and Kazuya reason with them? It'll be hard, but I think it can be done. But we still need Gengo coming in ASAP to explain to them how Kazuya's powers work and all.

Spoiler for reply:

Well, Ticy will back Kazuya up and Elizabeth probably will too once she get's a better understanding of what's going, but Arnett is of course being a hothead but hopefully she'll warm up in time.

[DragonOsman]

Spoiler for reply:

Yeah, and I also hope you're right - especially about Arnett, but you're hopefully right about Ticy and Elizabeth. But Stella will support Kazuya, too, right? At least I hope she will.

[Hokoga]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Spoiler for :

I seriously hope not. Mainly because I'm shipping Kazuya with Stella. A harem with Stella as the "Harem Leader," along with Rana and that other girl from the Valkyries who loves Kazuya also being in the harem (although, since it's only three girls, it probably won't count as a full-on harem) would be even better.

And I don't want any incest-related stuff happening, either. We already have enough of that with Kazuya seemingly liking Stella because she reminds him of Kazuha due to the fact that she has the Heroic Stigmata (which came from Kazuha). I hope that even if this is even remotely the case, it still doesn't really mean that Kazuya is really a siscon. I'd really hate that.

And yes, I do think that the white-haired girl in that pod, Kazuya's "supposed" half-sister, actually is his half-sister. After all, it's pretty obvious that she's the result of Ryuuichi raping Cassandra.

@Yorae: While I do understand where Arnett is coming from, I mainly support the Pandora who defended Kazuya. Arnett's just a hot-head - even if she understands deep down that Kazuya isn't completely bad or wrong, she still wouldn't really admit it because he's a hot-head and it's more in character for her to act that way.

Anyway, Tachibana, thanks for that clarification.

How did the Limiters take it? Will they antagonize Kazuya, or will they be able to understand him, as well as what he did and why?

And also, if Kazuya really can't explain how his power works, then hopefully Gengo gets there soon so he can fill them in on it. Especially if Kazuya's inability to explain it well will make them trust him less, which would be bad.

Edit: One post late.
@Ryuuga: If you mean he should introduce her as his girlfriend and the one he wants to marry (if he does feel that way about her), then I agree. But shouldn't Cassandra already be aware? Unless she's surprisingly dense about these things.

I seriously hope not. Mainly because I'm shipping Kazuya with Stella. A harem with Stella as the "Harem Leader," along with Rana and that other girl from the Valkyries who loves Kazuya also being in the harem

And I don't want any incest-related stuff happening, either. We already have enough of that with Kazuya seemingly liking Stella because she reminds him of Kazuha due to the fact that she has the Heroic Stigmata (which came from Kazuha). I hope that even if this is even remotely the case, it still doesn't really mean that Kazuya is really a siscon. I'd really hate that.

Your contradicting yourself when you say that and also there's been an incest vibes since chapter 1 because Kazuya is a 100% siscon, then the siblings arc happened and that's when my KazuyaxStella ship started to have a few problems. . .

Spoiler for Just thought of it:

I would love it if Kazuya uses his new power on Holly Rose while Louis watches unable to do anything about it. *evil smile*

At first I liked KazuyaxStella but then the NTR siblings arc happened... and then Cassandra appeared and I was like KazuyaxCassandra FTW! then I found out that Cassandra practically his mother and my reaction to that was

Spoiler for :

Aw now that's just kinky

I can't say I'm a big fan of incest either but this author is known for creating interesting stories that usually have random acts of incest inside of it, so I pretty much braced myself when I started reading this. That being said there's already so much incest in this story that at this point I really don't care if Kazuya's half-sister turns out to be a yandere who wants the D.

Spoiler for :

Yeah I know I'm messed up, but sometimes this can happen people who read too much of Lim Dall-young's works

[Tachibana]

If Kazuya's younger sister turns out to be a yandere maybe she'll go for Satellizer and Rana as well.

Thinking about it, having a yandere nova younger sister is dangerous.

[DragonOsman]

She's probably going to be mostly Nova or maybe half, but only because of a Stigmatic Body. She should be a Pandora, though. But yeah, it'll be dangerous if she's yandere for anyone, especially if it's for her own brother.

If she goes for Kazuya and those two girls, then I'll be almost fine with it - the only problem would be her being a yandere in that case, then, since yanderes are dangerous.

@Hokoga: Again, it's Lim-Dal Young. It starts with an L, not an I. Anyway, you may be right about the whole incest-possibility thing, but I still don't want it to happen. If Kazuya ends up with Stella, then the closest thing to incest we'll have is that Stella reminds him of Kazuha because she has the Heroic Stigmata.

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Spoiler for reply:

Yeah, and I also hope you're right - especially about Arnett, but you're hopefully right about Ticy and Elizabeth. But Stella will support Kazuya, too, right? At least I hope she will.

Spoiler:

According to a partial summary I found on another site, Satellizer pointed out that what Kazuya did saved them. Though Elizabeth and Arnett still felt violated and pressed Kazuya for answers, and the reluctant hero replied that though he felt bad about what he did, he wanted to save everyone. Arnett wasn't soothed though, but Ticy pointed out that Kazuya had boosted them to fight 4 Pandora-Type Novas, and had he not all of them would be dead. Arnett countered that Ticy was only saying it because she wasn't affected, but the Hitman said she was, just not to the same extent. She went on to say it wasn't time to argue amongst themselves, and that someone needed to get in contact with the control room. It was then that they learned of Rana's situation, and the story basically ends there.

Spoiler for Chapter 197:

Well I'm glad those Novas are all dead, and without little sister bailing them out, impressive. Though undoubtedly Kazuya's much more Nova than human now, possibly double what he was when the story began, or more. Especially if he can discern how much soul energy a Pandora, and how much they're using (and what they look like under their clothes. Sorry, couldn't resist. ^^;; ).

But now they're about to head off to find Rana, before she, Windy May, Teslad, Lucie, or possibly all of them get killed. And after what we read in the last issue of Freezing Zero, I hope it's not Rana's time to join Luna in the afterlife, that would really suck.

Spoiler for Kazuya's kid sister:

I hope she's not a yandere, I don't think her mother would approve. I know Gengo definitely wouldn't approve of his granddaughter killing everyone between her and Kazuya, nor would Kazuha for that matter. Though I'm hoping it won't be that bad, since she's never met Kazuya before, and we don't know what kind of education she's received from Gengo, if any. Though it'll be very interesting when she makes her grand debut. Until then...

[Hokoga]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

She's probably going to be mostly Nova or maybe half, but only because of a Stigmatic Body. She should be a Pandora, though. But yeah, it'll be dangerous if she's yandere for anyone, especially if it's for her own brother.

If she goes for Kazuya and those two girls, then I'll be almost fine with it - the only problem would be her being a yandere in that case, then, since yanderes are dangerous.

If you put it like that then I can't help but picture a catastrophe happening.

Spoiler for :

She walks in on Kazuya and Stella being intimate.

Little Sister:"Onii-chan what were you doing with her just now"

Kazuya:"Ah!... uhm... well"*face gone pale*

Little Sister:"Why is it always her?"

Kazuya:"because..."

Little Sister:"And when it's not her it's that other one"

Stella:"!!!?...."ಠ_ಠ

Kazuya:"Wha......!"*cold sweat*

Little Sister:"Why is it never me!, Is there something wrong with me!, do you hate like me...."

Kazuya:"Well no, it's because your my sister so.."

Little Sister:"LIES!!, ONII-CHAN IS A LIAR!!!"

Kazuya:"No I'm..."

Little Sister:"I ALREADY KNOW HOW YOU HAD THE HOTS FOR KAZUHA ONEE-SAMA & MOTHER!!"

Kazuya:"Uh!........(WHERE THE HELL DID SHE HEAR THAT FROM!?!)"

Little Sister:"Oh I understand now, all I have to do is get rid of those bitches and then you'll only look at me, right?"

Stella:"What?"
Kazuya:"Wait now lets just take a moment to calm down"

Little Sister:"........."*equips volt weapon*

Kazuya:"What do you plan on doing with that!?!"
Stella:"Wait,wait hold on, I'm not trying steal your brother away from you!(although he was with me before he even met you.)"

Little Sister:"Onii-chan please get away from that bitch"

Kazuya:"No!, I won't let you do this so please just cal.."

Little Sister:"I SAID GET AWAY FROM HER!!!!!!!"*Fires a warning shot*

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Kazuya:"MAAAaaa!!....?*notices Stella*"

Stella:"?!?!?!?"ಠ▃ಠ

Kazuya:"CASSANDRA!!!!!!!"

[ryuuya]

i hope LIM Dall-Young doesn't kill lucy windy teslad and rana =(