Good Ending (GE)

[DragoZERO]

Originally Posted by Dorsai

DragoZERO i just finished VK, was better then i thought it will be... First NTR i ever finished (i hate this kind of mangas)... Plot is quite good and realistic, Nitto isnt too smart and for the most time he makes mistakes one after another, but this make him real. On scale 1-6 i could give solid 4 for this manga...

It's not NTR nor is the series about NTR, so you should really stop saying it is.

Originally Posted by Kirito

Chapter 133 has been scanlated and released!

Spoiler for Chapter 133:

Nice Boyfriend meets the girlfriend's family until the girl runs into the ex, who hugs her.

...I can't tell if this will be good for Seiji or not...

Yea, I don't know where we're heading with this. It feels like we're in the 15th inning and we're just hoping someone finishes the game, lol.

[ccie20012]

Spoiler for 134 raw:

We go to the stupid drama. I saw the raw 134 - ex gets in a car accident. I personally drop this manga. This is a green light to start blackmailing Shou. Given that Seiji - a complete jerk - it is clear what will be the result.

[Master Chibi]

If he doesn't end up with Shou there's no fucking chance I'm going to bother with this manga. That spoiler actually makes my blood curdle. What a crock of shit.

[Kirito]

It's bound to happen sooner or later, since the author wants to create a flair for the dramatic, so that Seiji and Shou will have an "excuse" to return to their respective former lovers.

The Yuki arc is going to be reopened sooner or later, again. But, it's just of matter of when and how it'll be initiated considering Yuki is still keeping a "low profile" from Seiji, at the moment.

[Nemuru]

Originally Posted by Master Chibi

If he doesn't end up with Shou there's no fucking chance I'm going to bother with this manga. That spoiler actually makes my blood curdle. What a crock of shit.

lol this reminds me of KNIM tokyo arc. I only pray the female isn't dense for some reason.

[Master Chibi]

Originally Posted by Nemuru

lol this reminds me of KNIM tokyo arc. I only pray the female isn't dense for some reason.

I'll happily admit that KNIM is for the better now, way for the better and that arc was essentially filler and useless.

Good Ending is going against its own god damn NAME at this point.

[Waven]

Originally Posted by Master Chibi

I'll happily admit that KNIM is for the better now, way for the better and that arc was essentially filler and useless.

Good Ending is going against its own god damn NAME at this point.

Has the drama-bee stung you again?

[Darknemo2000]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

It's not NTR nor is the series about NTR, so you should really stop saying it is.

As I said technically it wasnt but emotionally it was an NTR and thats what he and others mean by calling it an NTR. And In a way VK is an NTR (despite it not being the main focus of the manga - Kano did emotionally NTR him, and Nitta's girlfriend did technically and emotionally NTR him) manga despite not really being it.

[LeaD36]

Originally Posted by Master Chibi

I'll happily admit that KNIM is for the better now, way for the better and that arc was essentially filler and useless.

Good Ending is going against its own god damn NAME at this point.

why doesnt this forum have a banlist/blacklist

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by LeaD36

why doesnt this forum have a banlist/blacklist

Well you can change the tags if you want, just not much or the Moderators will get on you. Overall, I really don't like this story and I just read another Manga that was bad before I read the new chapters. Its name was Love Allergen. Anyway, I see this taking a wrong turn.

[ccie20012]

If Shou could say - "I love another - sorry, I do not care about the problems ex".
But this is impossible. Why are all the characters are soft, like wax.
They will never be happy. They will go round and round forever.
The only option - to go with his girlfriend to another city.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by ccie20012

If Shou could say - "I love another - sorry, I do not care about the problems ex".
But this is impossible. Why are all the characters are soft, like wax.
They will never be happy. They will go round and round forever.
The only option - to go with his girlfriend to another city.

Drama will be drama, won't be surprising if he does. Overall most of us see Yuki and him getting back together.

[Darth SpiderDen]

I'm just laughing at the fact Seiji ends up with a mentally problematic girl all the time - first Yuki and her trauma and now Shou and her trauma (that actually shouldn't be a trauma at all - guy acts like a jerk to you, you hate him or despise him or whatever, move on with your life).
Sheesh...
Oh and beware - there's still the ex-boyfriend of Yuki to reappear and screw this all up (and he will, no doubt about it).
Seiji will probably be alone but happy that all his friends are happy and no longer have any trauma......the good ending is for everyone else besides him I bet.

[ReaperxKingx]

I find that a quite sad ending, but I doubt Seiji will end up with nobody. Otherwise the whole good ending title doesn't match because everyone got to be happy.

[Darth SpiderDen]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

I find that a quite sad ending, but I doubt Seiji will end up with nobody. Otherwise the whole good ending title doesn't match because everyone got to be happy.

Unless the author goes with the cliched "I'm happy with you being happy" and stuff like that for Seiji...I've seen quite a few of them in mangas so far and this one doesn't seem to be any different.
How a manga could make me like KNIM again is beyond me but it happened anyways.

[ReaperxKingx]

It is hard to predict anything in Romance manga, there are always twists.

[Master Chibi]

Originally Posted by Waven

Has the drama-bee stung you again?

This isn't drama. This is a pretty sorry plot device when things are going perfectly fine. I just wish authors in this genre were more content in telling a competent story than something akin to an action title were something has to happen to drag on the story. I know that's selfish but damn it when I enjoy characters in a series it pains me to see them thrown stupid shit like this.

[Darth SpiderDen]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

It is hard to predict anything in Romance manga, there are always twists.

Good romance mangas are hard to predict.
This one is not a good romance manga: the twists are predictable and always end up with:
- appearence of a former love interest for the girl (shounen romance) that mixes her feelings even though she likes the MC;
- Situation arises that makes her fell guilty and remember the past thus tending to go with the former love interest thinking now will be different;
- the former love interest always develops feelings for the heroine AFTER they separate;
- The MC pulls a desperate move from his pants and the manga ends with a premonition of the MC and heroine being together or starting to date.

Normally it goes like this and, so far, this manga seems to be going this way except for the final part.

[jzmagic]

After 134, it's the beginning of the end for Shou and Utsumi.

[Waven]

Originally Posted by Master Chibi

This isn't drama. This is a pretty sorry plot device when things are going perfectly fine. I just wish authors in this genre were more content in telling a competent story than something akin to an action title were something has to happen to drag on the story. I know that's selfish but damn it when I enjoy characters in a series it pains me to see them thrown stupid shit like this.

In order for fiction to work there has to be some kind of conflict. If the drama was toned down the majority of readers would've lost interest already - GE doesn't have any other feature such as comedy, fantasy, action etc. . The hardships characters have to go trough is actually what makes them interesting, it's not them picking flowers.

Originally Posted by Darth SpiderDen

Good romance mangas are hard to predict.
This one is not a good romance manga: the twists are predictable and always end up with:
- appearence of a former love interest for the girl (shounen romance) that mixes her feelings even though she likes the MC;
- Situation arises that makes her fell guilty and remember the past thus tending to go with the former love interest thinking now will be different;
- the former love interest always develops feelings for the heroine AFTER they separate;
- The MC pulls a desperate move from his pants and the manga ends with a premonition of the MC and heroine being together or starting to date.

Normally it goes like this and, so far, this manga seems to be going this way except for the final part.

Bit too generalizing, don't you think?
Predictability surely cannot be the sole aspect in determining quality writing, there are plenty of good series that are very predictable as there are bad ones that use mind-boggling turns. Where does that notion of yours come from?

I also don't get why predictable twists would "always" turn into this specific ntr scenario that you presented. What you describe is a single part of the plot that is not even guaranteed to happen in GE, yet. More so does that mean every series to not incorportate that certain plot development is inherently good?