2013-01-14, 03:42 | Link #161 | |
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For the last 26 episode/105 chapter of manga all I see is "perfect man - Taichi". Everyone in the world should watch Chihaya Furu and learn to become Taichi As for Sumire's hate, well the Karuta club is doing bait and switch. They should expect to see that coming. If someone told me they are feeding me free food but instead give me a 3 hour boring lecture on something I am not interested (which happened alot in real life, about crooked company want you to buy/invest), I will interupt and ask where is my food
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2013-01-14, 03:52 | Link #162 |
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There are Taichi haters who complain about his behaviour every time he blinks. I remember reading blog posts by such a hater during the first season it was pretty funny.
While I don't like Sumire I did like some of her comedic moments and I really like her voice, I hope to hear more of her seiyuu in the future.
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2013-01-14, 04:20 | Link #163 | |
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When you're possessive and obsessive over a girl but average/ugly, call the freakin' cops man! /facts of life |
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2013-01-14, 08:41 | Link #164 |
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^^ So, is a flaw of him that he is handsome?
I didn't think there were so many Taichi's haters at this point. I mean, he has grown so much since he was a kid. (Or probably is it because of that?). Talking about Sumire, I dont' know how she will evolve, but I hope she wouldn't lose her apparent straightforwardness, just to add a bit of a spicy flavor to the show.
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2013-01-14, 09:57 | Link #166 |
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Except Taichi doesn't take it to creepy levels. His "devotion" is harmless to everybody, save for perhaps himself. He's not one of those "handsome bad boys" you see so often in Shoujo. Thank god for that.
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2013-01-14, 15:20 | Link #167 |
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Yes, but Sumire is getting a lot of hate here for her harmless and non-creepy devotion, while Taichi (mostly) gets nothing but love. I think Quadratic and Yume Hanabi are clueing us in to Suetsugu-sensei's point in bringing Sumire into the story.
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2013-01-14, 15:37 | Link #168 | |
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Besides, she isn't devoted to Taichi. She just sees him as a prize she could brag about. There's no love there. Just pride. (Not that I care. I wouldn't see love as an excuse for her attitude, and at least Taichi's smart enough to see right through her.) Last edited by Anh_Minh; 2013-01-14 at 16:22. |
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2013-01-14, 16:04 | Link #169 | |
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Speaking of Sumire, the poem that made her cry should be familiar to those who watched UtaKoi (highly recommended you do if you like Chihayafuru). Knowing the context behind the poems adds another layer of enjoyability to the show.
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2013-01-14, 17:39 | Link #171 |
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Honestly I can't see a direct connection between judging Taichi and Sumire. I mean, I think Sumire has been bitchy, it is a matter of fact to me. And I think that was the purpose. No hate here.
Surely the indirect implication of her behavior has been as often happens, first, to flash out Kanade's resolve and backbone handling her, and last to point out another Taichi's inner little step. In response to a question about his high-popularity among the girls he stated that he prefers to chose instead of being chosen. In context, he implicitly admitted of being aware of his popularity, but that wasn't the point there. And in any case, he is popular and it's not something he should feel guilty for. The main point, to me, was that he had a girlfriend once whose he didn't care and at that time apparently he even didn't care not caring for her. In this episode he made clear that he won't make the same error twice. And, I admit, I couldn't avoid to be pleased by that.
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As Yume Hanabi understood, if we replaced Taichi with an uglier guy, a lot more people would (probably) be up in arms over his actions (with respect to the whole love triangle issue, which is really the only place where Taichi's ugly side comes up). His 'creepy' factor is dependent how good looking he is while being possessive. Better looking -> knight in shining armor . Uglier -> monster, kill it with fire ! Anyway, this isn't really about bashing Taichi (despite how humorous it is to do), it was about comparing Taichi and Sumire and how bad is she really doing on her introduction. Quote:
Is it because the 1st years were rude first, so they're allowed to be petty about it? I'm willing to bet that that was already their mindset before Sumire revealed the true intentions of the (nearly?) entire group of 1st years and I'm wondering how the first years will be able to break into the group because of how tight-knit the five are (ok, judging by the OP, only two will break in ). Regarding Sumire, there's no love, but she's looking for love which she's said a few times. Obviously in her mind, finding love involves going out and being proactive catch their attention. I don't think Taichi sees right through her. He just doesn't care about her or her motives. |
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2013-01-15, 03:14 | Link #178 | ||
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It seems you really believe Taichi will be considered creepy if he is not good looking. Have you watch School Rumble? Do you consider Hanai Haruki creepy? He is average to good looking (not as good looking as Taichi, I will admit), good at sports and study (just like Taichi) and very creepy in my opinion. Compare to him Taichi is the ideal guy. As many others said, Taichi is harmless (Chihaya certainly don't mind him being around) while most females dislike having a creepy guy around (Yakumo dislike Hanai around) Quote:
Since it is in the OP I don't consider that as spoiler, if Karuta club do a formal introduction (like playing a mock match in the assembly), they will probably have 1 member, instead they have 2, so a 100% increase so their strategy is a success.
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2013-01-15, 03:46 | Link #179 | |
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No doubt Sumire's initial impulse in looking for a boyfriend is vindictive, as you point out. She tells herself that as she looks around the auditorium, noticing some cute guy in Class 1, and jotting down something in her little notebook. Then Taichi and Chihaya come out, and Sumire--and all the other girls--are simply thunderstruck. She locks onto Taichi just because he is so overwhelmingly attractive. As the shared reactions make clear, she is following at this point not her personal agenda, but responding directly to Taichi himself. We can debate whether this is love at first sight, but this is the place where all love starts, that moment where you see someone you think attractive, and then everything else follows. To deride Sumire's feeling at this moment as shallow is simply mean-spirited. Finally, the anime does a lot of work to show how Sumire's motives develop within the episode itself, mainly via her reaction to the title poem. She understands the poem as an inspiration to seize the day, to live now before youth and beauty fade. Then, after her conversation with Taichi on the train, she makes the poem a reason to reject his advice to sit passively and wait for some guy to choose her, insisting instead "I want to have a choice, too! / I... / don't want to write poems about regrets!" At this point Sumire's motives for chasing Taichi have everything to do with being the kind of person she wants to be, a woman who can choose and act for herself. We are supposed to respect her for the way she incorporates the various meanings of the poem into her life. And we are supposed to admire her for the strength and independence of character she manifests at this moment. At the episode's close Sumire's motives are anything but shallow.
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2013-01-15, 03:51 | Link #180 | |
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Really, with the exception of a handful of people, majority of the Taichi fans became fans of him after the character development kicked in. Which is why I find the accusation of double standards funny because if you compare early Taichi with early Sumire (which you should be doing as comparing as Sumire is at the moment a 2D character and Taichi isn't) than the level of hate they're getting is roughly the same. Ultimately though I feel like the entire thing just boils down to shipping. And I do think Sumire is introduced to keep us second guessing about Chihaya/Taichi/Arata triangle and to create a potential other romantic interest for Taichi. Arata at this point already has one, actually he has two.
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