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**monir** · 2013-10-10, 15:39

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GreyZone · 2013-10-10, 15:49

Saki really likes to be raped... she wasn't actually raped this episode, but... well, see for yourselves.

DevilHighDxD · 2013-10-10, 15:50

Haruto's character is developing toward the direction I was hopping for, Saki is awesome as always, Shoko finally no longer that genki girl in S1 and L-elf is badass as usually. I am gradually liking Akira more and more, her first debut as a VVV-pilot kicked so many ass.

kuromitsu · 2013-10-10, 15:58

Awww yesss, VVV's back and it's like it never left. XD This episode was somewhat disjointed, but whatever, the end and the theme song made up for everything.

OK, just one thing:

Spoiler for ep 1:

And the new theme song is great, although for now I still prefer Preserved Roses.

Oh, and L-11 in his shiny new uniform. I very much approve.

GreyZone · 2013-10-10, 16:07

Isn't that "ending" actually the opening? As far as I know that is usually the case when the first episode airs and the opening does not play at the beginning.

Shinhwa · 2013-10-10, 16:08

Magius = vampire organization. Totally saw it coming =w=;;

Also from those mass-production mecha that came out in the OP and at the end, I guess they were reverse engineered from the stolen Valvrave.

kuromitsu · 2013-10-10, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyZone

Isn't that "ending" actually the opening?

It is. The real ending will be from the next ep.

Awrya · 2013-10-10, 16:20

[Enter obligatory Haruto - L-Elf scene].

Are A-Drei & co training in that simulator to pilot those new mechs? I wonder on what energy they run, does Cain feed them Runes and who does he feed on?

MisaoFan · 2013-10-10, 16:22

Spoiler for Episode 13:

KleenexGhost · 2013-10-10, 16:22

Back in the saddle again! Solid episode. Hopefully they keep the randomness toned down.

Flolan · 2013-10-10, 16:25

I'm confused. Moslly because i wasnt paying enough attention to the first season i guess? And its been a while too, please someone clear these out for me.

So, the valvraves are powered by Haruto biting people? This is something like collecting runes, or so they said in the episode. When Haruto raped Saki was that also about collecting runes or something else? And what about all the other valvrave pilots, arent they also vampires? I dont think i ever saw them losing control or biting people so i dont understand what makes them different from Haruto. In fact, it would have made more sense if each pilot powered their own valvrave by drinking human blood.

Whenever Haruto bites people he also hijacks their bodies is that correct? I wonder if biting other vampires like Saki would work out the same; power the runes and cause hijacking to happen? I dont even remember how many times Haruto has bitten others, anyone? Has he bitten others than L-Elf?

finalfury · 2013-10-10, 16:27

Haruto gaining more likeable character traits that appeal to me, Saki literally being my top 2 favorite along with L-elf still retaining awesomeness. I really approve the toning down the craziness to let the plot settle in. All in all, a satisfying episode with some loving Saki for the win. Haruto and L-elf literally are the perfect duo of this show and A-drei looks cute.>.>

konart · 2013-10-10, 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flolan

I'm confused. Moslly because i wasnt paying enough attention to the first season i guess? And its been a while too, please someone clear these out for me.

So, the valvraves are powered by Haruto biting people? This is something like collecting runes, or so they said in the episode. When Haruto raped Saki was that also about collecting runes or something else? And what about all the other valvrave pilots, arent they also vampires? I dont think i ever saw them losing control or biting people so i dont understand what makes them different from Haruto. In fact, it would have made more sense if each pilot powered their own valvrave by drinking human blood.

Whenever Haruto bites people he also hijacks their bodies is that correct? I wonder if biting other vampires like Saki would work out the same; power the runes and cause hijacking to happen? I dont even remember how many times Haruto has bitten others, anyone? Has he bitten others than L-Elf?

Yes, Valvraves are powered by runes, Haruto collects, but his attacks are nothing more than a result of a withdrawal syndrome - he stopped biting people (and collecting runes. Works like a drug here).
As for the second part of the question - we don't know for sure yet, but it's possible that only Haruto can and needs to collect runes

~~DuelGundam2099~~ · 2013-10-10, 16:53

Lets see this episode had:

-Awesome action
-VVV6 doing.... action
-Lots of explanations
-Lots of development
-Oh Kyuma, you sold out to a soft drink, really?
-Thunder why you dance with him?
-The Magius cult of vamps.... Didn't approve the creation of Valvraves?

-Possible final boss in the ending credits (going with Unit 2), not sure on the music itself yet

Quote:

Saki really likes to be raped

That was not ra- Actually, no, I've been debating this here and on /m/ for waaaaaaaay too long, I'm just going to wait until manga translations/BD content says about it. Just.... Ugh.

MK-95- · 2013-10-10, 17:04

Ok, we're off to a great start. The VVVs have been explained a bit with their Rune theory, how to "refill" them & the L-Elf/Haruto professional/personal relationship is developing as you expect it would. They have a vivid understanding & common PoV that's being developed on, hats off to Sunrise for that.

We also have a bit of exploration into the two most popular ships, that just to show that Sunrise heard the shippers' cries & acknowledged them. <== (Please don't discuss/reply further on this point, if you have to, take it to the appropriate thread.)

Tokkan · 2013-10-10, 17:19

Um... it's actually officially called Episode 13. So why does the thread title say episode 1?

~~DuelGundam2099~~ · 2013-10-10, 17:26

Because it is another season and that is all that matters!

In all seriousness I do side with Tokkan on that.

erika4dsl · 2013-10-10, 17:42

I'm loving the new uniform, mhmmmm especially when L-Elf wears it yum yum yum.
Overall it's a good first episode since it felt like a smooth transition from season 1.

Characters have also gotten a little development like L-Elf feels less stoic, I don't know, there's something "softer" about him lol. Shoko has gotten more mature and focused after her father's death.

Gundamx · 2013-10-10, 17:53

it look like Cain who train L-Elf was not real Cain but Vampire who switch body with him
+
Didn't saki have Magius mark in last episode of season one?
(Same one Dorssie leader have now after his body personality been switch with Magius)

Allium · 2013-10-10, 20:13

A promising start to the new season. Liked how they explained about the Magius and the Runes, it really clears up a couple of things. I also liked how this episode showed us most of the characters in their respective roles, particularly Haruto, L-elf, Saki and Shouko. It felt good seeing the cast back with their own parts to play and more responsibilities.

And as of this episode, looks like Haruto and L-elf are the OTP of this show.

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2013-10-10, 15:49	Link #2
GreyZone "Senior" "Member" Join Date: Jan 2012	Saki really likes to be raped... she wasn't actually raped this episode, but... well, see for yourselves. __________________

2013-10-10, 15:50	Link #3
DevilHighDxD Zero Two Best waifu 2018 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Living the NEET dream Age: 27	Haruto's character is developing toward the direction I was hopping for, Saki is awesome as always, Shoko finally no longer that genki girl in S1 and L-elf is badass as usually. I am gradually liking Akira more and more, her first debut as a VVV-pilot kicked so many ass. __________________

2013-10-10, 15:58	Link #4
kuromitsu Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	Awww yesss, VVV's back and it's like it never left. XD This episode was somewhat disjointed, but whatever, the end and the theme song made up for everything. OK, just one thing: Spoiler for ep 1: Come on, writers, we all know that you knew what people would expect when Haruto tells L-11 that from now on he'd "feed" only on him. And it's not a bite. XDDD I don't expect them to deliver, but I hope for more fanservice! XD The scene is still awesome, though, at this rate the writers could've just made them make out while writing "yes, we know you enjoy this, that's why we did it" with blinking text on the screen. XDDDDD And the new theme song is great, although for now I still prefer Preserved Roses. Oh, and L-11 in his shiny new uniform. I very much approve.

2013-10-10, 16:07	Link #5
GreyZone "Senior" "Member" Join Date: Jan 2012	Isn't that "ending" actually the opening? As far as I know that is usually the case when the first episode airs and the opening does not play at the beginning. __________________

2013-10-10, 16:08	Link #6
Shinhwa Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Age: 33	Magius = vampire organization. Totally saw it coming =w=;; Also from those mass-production mecha that came out in the OP and at the end, I guess they were reverse engineered from the stolen Valvrave.

2013-10-10, 16:20	Link #8
Awrya U mad? Join Date: Apr 2012	[Enter obligatory Haruto - L-Elf scene]. Are A-Drei & co training in that simulator to pilot those new mechs? I wonder on what energy they run, does Cain feed them Runes and who does he feed on? __________________

2013-10-10, 16:22	Link #10
KleenexGhost Riding the Ange Express Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sunriseland	Back in the saddle again! Solid episode. Hopefully they keep the randomness toned down. __________________ "You know what these are, Mom? They're gazebos! They're BULLSH*T!" - Eddie Kaspbrak

2013-10-10, 16:25	Link #11
Flolan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013	I'm confused. Moslly because i wasnt paying enough attention to the first season i guess? And its been a while too, please someone clear these out for me. So, the valvraves are powered by Haruto biting people? This is something like collecting runes, or so they said in the episode. When Haruto raped Saki was that also about collecting runes or something else? And what about all the other valvrave pilots, arent they also vampires? I dont think i ever saw them losing control or biting people so i dont understand what makes them different from Haruto. In fact, it would have made more sense if each pilot powered their own valvrave by drinking human blood. Whenever Haruto bites people he also hijacks their bodies is that correct? I wonder if biting other vampires like Saki would work out the same; power the runes and cause hijacking to happen? I dont even remember how many times Haruto has bitten others, anyone? Has he bitten others than L-Elf?

2013-10-10, 16:27	Link #12
finalfury Incognito Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: At the end of the abyss	Haruto gaining more likeable character traits that appeal to me, Saki literally being my top 2 favorite along with L-elf still retaining awesomeness. I really approve the toning down the craziness to let the plot settle in. All in all, a satisfying episode with some loving Saki for the win. Haruto and L-elf literally are the perfect duo of this show and A-drei looks cute.>.> __________________

2013-10-10, 17:04	Link #15
MK-95- Best Girl Connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Trinidad & Tobago Age: 28	Ok, we're off to a great start. The VVVs have been explained a bit with their Rune theory, how to "refill" them & the L-Elf/Haruto professional/personal relationship is developing as you expect it would. They have a vivid understanding & common PoV that's being developed on, hats off to Sunrise for that. We also have a bit of exploration into the two most popular ships, that just to show that Sunrise heard the shippers' cries & acknowledged them. <== (Please don't discuss/reply further on this point, if you have to, take it to the appropriate thread.) __________________ "When there is evil in this world that justice cannot defeat, would you taint your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?" - Lelouch vi Britannia as Zero.

2013-10-10, 17:19	Link #16
Tokkan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Age: 35	Um... it's actually officially called Episode 13. So why does the thread title say episode 1?

2013-10-10, 17:26	Link #17
~~DuelGundam2099~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Feb 2013	Because it is another season and that is all that matters! In all seriousness I do side with Tokkan on that.

2013-10-10, 17:42	Link #18
erika4dsl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013	I'm loving the new uniform, mhmmmm especially when L-Elf wears it yum yum yum. Overall it's a good first episode since it felt like a smooth transition from season 1. Characters have also gotten a little development like L-Elf feels less stoic, I don't know, there's something "softer" about him lol. Shoko has gotten more mature and focused after her father's death.

2013-10-10, 17:53	Link #19
Gundamx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	it look like Cain who train L-Elf was not real Cain but Vampire who switch body with him + Didn't saki have Magius mark in last episode of season one? (Same one Dorssie leader have now after his body personality been switch with Magius)

2013-10-10, 20:13	Link #20
Allium Keep on keeping on Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: The pale blue dot...	A promising start to the new season. Liked how they explained about the Magius and the Runes, it really clears up a couple of things. I also liked how this episode showed us most of the characters in their respective roles, particularly Haruto, L-elf, Saki and Shouko. It felt good seeing the cast back with their own parts to play and more responsibilities. And as of this episode, looks like Haruto and L-elf are the OTP of this show.