2010-04-24, 19:52 | Link #9021 | ||
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Not that I'm sure Shkannon is false but it doesn't seem usable as a key, as you've said. Anyways, this idea should work for... I think... these cases: - EP1 Eva and Hideyoshi murder, chain lock room - EP5 Hideyoshi murder, chain lock room - EP6 Battler escape, chain lock room Were there others? My memory fails me at this moment.. Quote:
And it just feels like we're so close, in more ways than one. One in that we're close to the answer. And two in that we're close to being *given* then answer... I know he said he wouldn't but then he still might leave out more hints and once you get those hints, getting the answer won't feel as good. 8) Come to think of it, even that interview was a hint. ;__; |
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2010-04-24, 20:04 | Link #9024 | |
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If you really think about it, it's certainly possible, and not even too difficult, to at least find a solution to all the closed rooms in EP1-4 using just Shkanontrice. Kanon and Shannon are the only two people who could possibly have faked deaths in EP1 and EP2 (though only if we make the somewhat large assumption that Battler can tell that someone's dead by getting a good look at them). If EP3 is a faked death too, that makes everything flat out easy to explain, and EP4 has no closed rooms. So Shkanontrice does have the potential to be the key. The problem is that solutions to some parts with just Shkanontrice have to rely on pretty shaky motives and reasons for why things happen the way they do.
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2010-04-24, 20:06 | Link #9025 | |||
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Anyway if shannontrice is true then it's practically impossible for Shannon to believe she's Kanon, when she's not. Or are you implying that meta-Beatrice is a separate entity, who doesn't share her knowledge with her vessel? That's yet another thing that I find hard to believe. Quote:
Yes it was, and yet it won't change the mind of shkanon supporters nor will change the mind of those who oppose it, exactly as he's planning. Quote:
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2010-04-24, 20:08 | Link #9029 | |
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I could only remember one from EP1 though... were there others in EP2-4? |
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2010-04-24, 20:09 | Link #9030 | |
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2010-04-24, 20:10 | Link #9031 | |
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2010-04-24, 20:11 | Link #9032 | |
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Everything else is identically solvable with separate people. |
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2010-04-24, 20:12 | Link #9033 | |
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Likewise If Shannon's death is fake in episode 1 it's easier to solve if the rest of the first twilight is fake also. To get around her corpse in episode 1 you have to make a lot of assumptions.
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2010-04-24, 20:14 | Link #9034 | |
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2010-04-24, 20:15 | Link #9035 | |
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I have not seen a theory so far that would not assume that the entirety of the letters are improvised in place or at the very least, stamped and sealed on the 4th or immediately before being presented. But they really don't have to be, like at all. In fact the head ring doesn't even have to still exist or be owned by anyone. There's a few things thing I noticed about the seal:
You know, if I were Kinzo planning to troll the entire family into an intellectual battle over my inheritance that may actually even happen well after my death, I'd make sure the challenge letter would be ready well beforehand and I would seal it myself. Like sealed turns in postponed chess matches, I would keep a few alternative sequences of letters hidden in a book somewhere in a sea of books, ready for whoever gets to be executing my will to use.
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2010-04-24, 20:15 | Link #9036 | |
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Battler only looks at Shannon's face for an instant, and has to look away quickly, revolted. I call that a clue, since it's the only intact face in all of EP1 and 2 that he doesn't see clearly.
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2010-04-24, 20:16 | Link #9038 |
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Except Natsuhi's room. Shannon is definitely dead Battler saw it. He touched her head and saw blood poor out on to floor. The only murderers you have there are Gohda and George. I chose the latter.
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2010-04-24, 20:18 | Link #9039 |
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Oh, I just remembered. It should also solve the idea of Kanon dying in red in EP1, 2, 3 and possibly 4 even though it seems he's not.
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