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View Poll Results: sola - Episode 9 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 28 | 36.36% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 26 | 33.77% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 15 | 19.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 9.09% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.30% | |
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2007-06-05, 06:26 | Link #81 | |||
Somehow I found out
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Ah, finally, background. I dug the fact that we finally learnt something about these characters that had some weight to it, and also that they managed to infuse some interesting turns (not "twists"... I'm choosing my words carefully) into the plot that set up some enticing confrontations, largely thanks to the way the characters were situated (eg, Mayuko finding herself on the tram just as Takeshi turns up). The problem: the confrontations themselves consisted of some terribly mediocre action sequences (most of my complaints about them have already been aired by other people), and the resolution at the end was a cop out ("oh no, Takeshi, I don't want you to kill anyone, I just wanted to be with you... I didn't realize all this time that you wanted to kill someone for my gain, I thought we were just hunting her for sport.")
One can only assume from this that the Takeshi-Mayuko chapter has come to a close, but there's still a decent amount of unanswered questions. At best, we can assume that the "who killed her" question may be beside the point, but the "who brought her back to life" question is relevant no matter how I look at it, so I'd be incredibly disappointed if they skimped over that. But the fact that the "who killed her" question and "who brought her back to life" question may well be related would make it even worse if they just assumed we didn't care. More important are the "why" questions. Why did whoever choose Mayuko to come back to life? Why was Takeshi under the impression that the only way to cure a Yaka was to kill another Yaka? And, yeah, I think that's a total red herring, since if it were the case, I'd imagine there'd be a far more prominent Yaka Holy Grail War. Why is Matsuri perfect? I can't sympathize with a flawless character... they're far too removed from anything realistic or reasonable to relate to. Oh well, I suppose it'd be worse still if she were invulnerable... oh wait... Yeah, this is the million dollar question, isn't it? The way I see it, it's either a red herring or poor story-telling. If it's a red herring, bravo, they can blow it away with a well executed plot twist in later episodes. But that seems odd, since the Takeshi-Mayuko arc seems to be, for all intents and purposes, done, and I can't see any obvious reason why either of these two characters will interact with the main set of characters again, or why such a plot twist will have any impact on them, since Takeshi is no longer interested in killing Yaka. Hmmm... maybe if Takeshi was told this by one of the major characters in the show and it turned out to be a life-threatening lie in some way, it could spark a reason for him to get revenge. If it's a detail that they've just assumed that the audience will pick up and accept with no questions asked, it's poor story-telling. Quote:
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Overall: one of the better eps in this series, but I'm still adverse to call this "good". Just too many flaws in this show (of various magnitude).
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2007-06-05, 07:18 | Link #82 |
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Gee, if only they could explain everything so quickly that seems to be missing from Sorrow-K's analysis, that would be great.
I'm not saying that isn't possible, but three episodes seem to be cutting it a bit close, unless those explanations are that much of a sale, which I most certainly wouldn't mind. I don't really care much for the action, though. It's simply a secondary piece of entertainment for me in sola. What really interests me is the backstory, and also the development of characters along the way. Last edited by Owaranai Destiny; 2007-06-05 at 10:30. |
2007-06-05, 08:04 | Link #83 |
Sola FTW
Join Date: May 2007
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maybe i there other yaka other than mayuko matsuri and Aono.. since Mayuko does not seem to have met matsuri and Aono b4 and Mayuko mention an onee san say i die and become yaka.. maybe that mysterious yaka gona appear sooner or later
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2007-06-05, 09:43 | Link #84 | |
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Maybe she has, indirectly at least, as the owner of that doll shop. Creepy shop, dark inside, owner sleeps all day. |
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2007-06-05, 10:05 | Link #85 | |||
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2007-06-05, 10:23 | Link #86 | |
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From what I'm speculating due to what's been laid out so far, a Yaka is born of woes. Takeshi was in total despair that he was screaming and sobbing like a maniac. That could be the very reason she was revived. It may be the only reason this mysterious female that talked to her was simply there to inform her about what happened. Maybe like a magnet, being pulled to the scene. No one could really tell you. We're all just throwing out speculations, but that's a definate question to speculate. From what I can tell, Aono could be trying to locate and/or recall him, causing him to break down like that. |
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2007-06-05, 11:00 | Link #87 |
Lost in my dreams...
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 37
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Another solid episode of Sola, but there were some things that bothered me. First thing - continuity issue at the very start of the ep. Can Aono teleport now as well ? What the heck was that inner child all about ? 0_o
Judging from her later performance, Matsuri seems to be holding back a hell of a lot of her power against Aono. She even seemed to be fine with the fact that she is going to be killed. Either there is more to this, or Matsuri needs to get a grip of her emotions and stand up for herself. Yorito's VA ... you know, this is the first time i am going to complain about voice acting, but this was borderline terrible. Seriously ... the guy does just fine in "normal" speech (then again - what human wouldn't ), but when it comes to displaying emotions, i simply want to turn down the volume. Takashi / Matsuri fight ... as always, well done and doesn't lack tension. But damn - has Matsuri gotten stronger ? If this is the power she has while heavily injured, why didn't she simply rip Takashi's head off in the 1st ep ? (aside from the fact that she seems a pacifistic creature). Takashi ... ok, lets ignore the fact that he suddenly seems capable of the same speed as Matsuri and/or has taken teleportation lessons from Aono. Where did he pull that sword out from ? 0_o A sword that isn't affected by Yaka powers, and his conviction that killing a Yaka can turn rozen-loli back to normal ... where do they come from? It better not be from thin air >.< ... are we going to have an evil, mysterious man introduced who manipulates Takashi for his own selfish goals ? Mayuko stopping Takashi ... while it seems like she could have told him that long ago, i think it has to do with the fact that she had gotten to know Matsuri. Either that, or Takashi really hadn't been telling her what is he up to. (seems somewhat unlikely, considering how close they seem). Mana keeps gathering points for herself. This is a friend you would kill to have. Out of the whole cast, she is the one most concerned about Yorito, and willing to lend her help unconditionally. Her conversation with Aono at the door earns her more points. Yorito ... what caused his sudden headache? Aono's direct doing? Aftereffects of the midraping? *crackshot incoming* - perhaps he is starting to regain his memories ? Matsuri woke up just in time to hear Mayuko's wish ... perhaps this will finally cause her to shape up and put a food down in front of Aono. Speaking of Matsuri ... damn, the poor girl needs something good happen to her ... else i will chew on some one's head So, Takashi / Mayuko story seems to be over ... or is it. They still could play a role in the story, but i wouldn't bet on that. (What i would pay for a hunting session of Aono *dreams* ). Giving this ep an 8. Despite some flaws this show has, Sola remains as my no1 pick of the season. Eagerly looking towards the next episode.
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2007-06-05, 11:36 | Link #88 | |
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I don't pin that on her lightly. I really, REALLY want to like her, but it's kind of hard to dismiss this. On to other things: - Takeshi's gift-rabbit looks weird much like Yorito's stuffed animal purchases. I'd figured it was from years of wear and repair, but no, it looked like that new. Any link (even casual) to Yorito's crazy stuffed animal shop? - I have zero problem with Matsuri's fighting displays escalating. All this time she's been trying to ESCAPE fighting. The more she's backed into a corner (figuratively), the more she's forced to actually fight. |
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2007-06-05, 15:38 | Link #89 | |||
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2007-06-05, 17:12 | Link #90 |
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This episode had some high points and low points
On the high,I'm very surprised and pleased that a romantic anime took time to make good fight scenes.I"m also glad we finally see Mayuko's story,although like Skyfall I'd like to know how killing Matsuri is supposed to help Mayuko.Also more hints into Aono and Matsuri's first meeting in the cave Some low points. I was very annoyed when Mana found a piece of paper and went "ZOMG!This must belong to Aono because no one else has paper or does origami in all Japan!" I realize they need to cut a few scenes to fit the ending but this is too much. |
2007-06-05, 17:50 | Link #91 | |
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My speculation is that the original Yorito never died but had his memories sealed away. His memories are probably trying to break free, causing him headaches and periods of black outs. By black outs, I mean times where he just looks like he's in another world and not able to recognize anything that's happening in the actual world. As for this episode, the basic setup was enjoyable. However, I sometimes get an impression of a child molester when it comes to Takeshi. |
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2007-06-05, 18:43 | Link #93 | |
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and what a mean thing to say to takeshi? i like the guy (and well you cant really call him a lolicon when he fell in love with mayuko around the same age as her )
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2007-06-05, 18:50 | Link #94 | ||
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The flaws in this are small, but numerous, and they all add up, in my eyes. Quote:
And yes, there is still a chance that my concerns will be addressed in later episodes, but I get more and more pessimistic with each passing episode. I hope it doesn't turn out to be the case, but at this stage, it just looks to me that the final script wasn't up to par with the original intentions of writers, and they're failing to make the emotional impact with this show that they intended on from the beginning.
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2007-06-05, 21:07 | Link #96 | |
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I guess also missed the fact that she didn't seem to recognize Aono neither at the bus station. So there's a possibility that a 3rd Yaka exists, unless I was misled to thinking that she didn't recognize Matsuri (which isn't quite clear at the moment). |
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2007-06-05, 21:33 | Link #97 |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Great episode.
I liked the first part, I though they moved to talk or something, but I dont know, maybe it was a director's mistake. I was too busy watching the... GATE OF ORIGAMILON (Do you have enough paper, lord of the Yakas?) Then, stuff happens and Mana proves to be the only real ally fof the "truth" of whatever is happening (or maybe I should say the only supporter of discovering it). Interesting enough, I like Mana, she cares about Yorito and what he likes, his needs, etc. I hope that doesnt turn bad. Then again, stuff happens and WOW, GAR Takeshi. Why are you all complaining about his speed, OF COURSE HE CAN DO THAT, HE'S GAR! :P. Now now, about that scene, I dont think it was a mistake or something like that, It seemed to me that in the state Matsuri was the flashbags stunned her for some time, and when she was able to open her eyes, the GAR men slashed her. Past Takesh- ejem Tsujidou was kinda cool too, and I enjoyed the scene with the intro song too. Very good episode indeed. I dont want to think too much about the ending, I have the bad feeling that its going to be something cliché so I wont discuss the matter xD. |
2007-06-06, 01:57 | Link #98 | |||
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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I noticed a subtlety at the end of Aono's fight. When she stopped, she was remembering the moment just after she became a yaka. In the previous flashback, we saw how pissed she was, and I think a lot of us have been considering her to still bear a grudge against Matsuri for this.
But if that's the case, if she still hates Matsuri for making her a yaka, then why does she recall that moment with sympathy? I also have a suspicion that Matsuri wasn't being cruel to Aono for making her a yaka. That it was actually a very generous thing to do. It also kinda explains why Matsuri so easily agreed to leave. I'll explain when it becomes apparent whether or not I'm right. Quote:
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