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Old 2020-04-09, 18:44   Link #41
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Yeeeeaaaahhh, not really sure that's how it works in here. There are some works that have the MC "remembers" their previous life after some event but still retaining the current personality, but this is not one of those it seems. Katarina was even shown to not immediately realize she's Katarina and she still need to research basic infos about the world which should have been obvious to her. For all intents and purposes, the original Katarina was completely overwritten.
I don't think it was overwritten because she did remember everything before the accident as Katarina the spoiled rich girl. It was a memory that was locked away until something external happen made her starting remembering her past life. Heck in the LN, she was out cold for a couple of days not because of the falls but all of the memories that came up overloaded her (in my opinion).
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Old 2020-04-09, 18:55   Link #42
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Did she really remember everything or was everything she knew came from playing the game?
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Old 2020-04-09, 20:43   Link #43
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Yeeeeaaaahhh, not really sure that's how it works in here.
I am sure.
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Old 2020-04-09, 21:31   Link #44
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Well, I'm not.
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Old 2020-04-10, 03:26   Link #45
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So we have yet to find out which is actually true.
What im sure of is that Catarina as of now will not tell everyone that she is not actually her for a long time.

So how does this even work?
Why does this kind of genre work so well and becomes so famous?
I have been asking these same question towards all the other "Isekai" and "Sekai" series.

What is the name of this game again?
She was connecting the dots between the game she was playing and what is happening to her as of that moment.
It gives me the impression that as in she is trapped in a someone else's body, not transported into some other world.
Unlike a character named Miles in a different series, this one seems she never intended to escape the world she lived in her previous life even though she was rather lonely as Miles.
Wow, this Catarina's situation is actually depressing.
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Old 2020-04-10, 03:47   Link #46
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Tittle literally says "Reincarnated as villainess" (Akuyaku Reijou ni Tensei). That means they are single person and no possession is involved.

It does not get any simpler then that.
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Old 2020-04-10, 04:22   Link #47
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Are we really going to argue semantics? This kind of possession is one kind of reincarnation anyways. It's the same kind of reincarnation that happens to that Yamucha tensei manga. It's used so much in other villainess novels that it's pretty much the standard and only once in a while subverted (for example by the original villainess rejecting the new soul but using the new knowledge for her advantage)
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Old 2020-04-10, 04:55   Link #48
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Of course we are going argue over semantics. You know that novels are made out of words, right?

Anyway this kind of reincarnation is indeed standard. "This kind" stand for literal reincarnation not possession though. There are occasionally some subversion but you argue whether not just generic work, but literal origin of whole sub-genre is subversive.
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Old 2020-04-10, 05:06   Link #49
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So we have yet to find out which is actually true.
What im sure of is that Catarina as of now will not tell everyone that she is not actually her for a long time.

So how does this even work?
Why does this kind of genre work so well and becomes so famous?
I have been asking these same question towards all the other "Isekai" and "Sekai" series.

What is the name of this game again?
She was connecting the dots between the game she was playing and what is happening to her as of that moment.
It gives me the impression that as in she is trapped in a someone else's body, not transported into some other world.
Unlike a character named Miles in a different series, this one seems she never intended to escape the world she lived in her previous life even though she was rather lonely as Miles.
Wow, this Catarina's situation is actually depressing.
Wow, loaded question here but I understand where you coming from on this. Let be clear, Tenzen12 explained it perfectly because she cant return to world and she was reincarnated into Katarina but without the memories until her fall. Now her current situation is very depressing (in my opinion she has the worst situation of any Isekai MC that even worst than Suburu).
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Old 2020-04-10, 05:13   Link #50
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Are we really going to argue semantics? This kind of possession is one kind of reincarnation anyways. It's the same kind of reincarnation that happens to that Yamucha tensei manga. It's used so much in other villainess novels that it's pretty much the standard and only once in a while subverted (for example by the original villainess rejecting the new soul but using the new knowledge for her advantage)
The rencarnation in this story goes in the sense "I remember my past life memories and that changed my personality". This is also a pretty common trope.

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Old 2020-04-10, 05:17   Link #51
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Second paragraph is future spoiler though and you should delete it before mods happen to see it (just to be on safe side).
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Old 2020-04-10, 05:22   Link #52
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Second paragraph is future spoiler though and you should delete it before mods happen to see it (just to be on safe side).
I hide that in Spoiler.

It should be enough, right? It doesn't reveal anything about the character.
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Old 2020-04-10, 05:37   Link #53
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Any future contents are not allowed in anime adaptation threads in animesuki, you should delete that part.

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Anyways, all I am saying is to me this is a reincarnation genre where the MC takes the place of a character from a fictional work, really not expecting this much argument over it. I won't call it 'possession' if it bothers you (actually I wasn't the one who started calling it that) and agree with the proposed "I remember my past life memories and that changed my personality" type of reincarnation (even though for me that exact description also fits into the possession category).
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Old 2020-04-10, 12:38   Link #54
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I was half playing around and i went over overboard, sorry.
Im going to stop right here, until next episode.
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Old 2020-04-11, 14:07   Link #55
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And thus Bakarina got two more harem members, and both a couple, quite practical.

Seriously this anime is very good, as never read the manga before(i read a different villainess but seems this one was the original) is so funny. nice so far
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Old 2020-04-11, 16:05   Link #56
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2nd Ep is more procedural then the 1st almost a literal cut and paste of the manga. Not like the great 1st ep, I wonder if they changed directors or something.

Good showing by the studio continues, but its hard not to win with this source material.

Hope they get some moments of brilliance again like the 1st ep, going forward. It how a little difference in some creative touches can do to the storyboard, in making great animes.
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Old 2020-04-11, 17:38   Link #57
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2nd Ep is more procedural then the 1st almost a literal cut and paste of the manga. Not like the great 1st ep, I wonder if they changed directors or something.

Good showing by the studio continues, but its hard not to win with this source material.

Hope they get some moments of brilliance again like the 1st ep, going forward. It how a little difference in some creative touches can do to the storyboard, in making great animes.
There was some changes here and there if you pay attention to it but I believe that they did a excellence job on this. We cant just look at it like the LN or Manga because it is own identity and the studio did a great job on it.
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Old 2020-04-11, 18:10   Link #58
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And so the great snake plan starts. Man these feel shorter than the web novel but since some are saying that they're like the manga I guess maybe they got cut down a bit in the LN.
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Old 2020-04-11, 18:38   Link #59
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That was a lot of fun once again. Bakarina is really hilarious. All of this could have been adverted if she had asked, you know, her gardener for advice. Of course I wouldn't have had it any other way.

As I thought, Geordo is the one that will prove to be the most troublesome. She kinda asked for it, though.
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Old 2020-04-11, 19:15   Link #60
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Bakarina is continuing to derail the plot of this game. First she steals not only Alan's role with the other rival love interest, but said rival love interest ends up becoming enamored with her to begin with, and then she ends up taking the Main Heroine's job of repairing the relationship of the brothers well before it was supposed to happen. And the best part is she doesn't even know she's doing it .

Is it just me, or did one of Mary's sisters sound like Yukari Tamura ?

Mary is such a sweetheart .

Yeah, somehow I don't think the developers took into account the possible implications of creating a shallow villainous love rival in an Otome game would have on said character's life .

Catarina thinks she has a naturally villainous face when it's really only like that when she poses it that way .

Geordo and Alan are twin brothers? They look nothing alike .

To be honest, I was more surprised Catarina could play the piano well then Alan. Guess some of that noble lady training is paying off .

The Ending seems surprisingly serious compared to the Opening, but it does show off Catarina's Harem and the vast array of expressions of the lovely Bakarina .
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