Meine Liebe

[Lanithro]

Oh... of course you did... that'll teach me to... um... just not read through people's posts properly. Sorry about that. Lanithro is absent-minded.

Blah blah Ludwig Episode 3 Blah

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I don't think Ludwig is that cold and heartless. I think he's pretty good at masking his feelings- and his performance in defending the dorms from Beruze was a choice bit of ham-acting. Makes you wonder how much of the rest is an act.

I think he's pretty capable at masking his feelings in public- possibly to the extent where he's one of those that can only show affection through stern lectures and scolding. He's done this about Naoji in the first episode, Ed (if we believe Camus when he said that Ludwig was only saying all that because he was worried) and he does this about Camus in Ep. 3 as well.

Magus IX: Yeah... it is out... not many seeds though; don't all of you jump on it at once and make it freak out like the first one did.

[dreamless]

Originally Posted by MartAnimE

But what can we conclude from this? Ludwig is actually as cold and heartless as he looks and incapable of doing an altruist act out of his free will? To be honest, even though I'm not very fond of Ludwig myself, I'm inclined to believe that he really meant to help them at the moment (the fact that he also increased his popularity among his fanboys and teachers also helped )

well, if he really is absolutely cold and heartless, he shouldn't help Orpherus even when asked by Naoji

[Lanithro]

Heheh. Episode 4.

A short piece of translation. Note that this is not a literal translation, but I feel it captures the mood and meaning of the dialogue, if not the precise wording.

Ludwig talks to Naoji. About 4 minutes in.

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"So you're thinking about leaving, huh Naoji? Thinking about leaving Kuchen and going back to Japan? Well there's no point thinking about silly hypothetical situations like that is there! You have to stay here. You have to stay here with me. It's destiny, and you can't fight destiny, can you! You have to stay with me forever, it's the only path destined for you. The answer's in your pretty dark eyes, isn't it. Get out, Camus- me and Naoji need to be left alone for a while. What? Don't you tell me you're sorry Naoji! What's that supposed to mean! 'Sorry' indeed. Don't you walk away from me, Naoji! Don't you walk away!"

[wao]

LMFAO, that is seriously hilarious, Lanithro...

Honestly speaking, I'm about to give up this series, episode 3 was just so meh to me, somehow all the characters don't seem natural AT ALL... Like the first part, they always RANDOMLY meet... The dialogue - no, not the wording, since I don't know Japanese, but the meaning - seemed pretty boring...

I feel too distant from this series, and even the prettiness of the boys can't keep me watching if it's going to continue like this...

But oh well, I really really like the OP and ED, so..

[Entropy]

Originally Posted by auriya

Episode 2 was an improvement on 1, though I agree that the plot needs to start moving faster--angsting and (shounen-ai-hinted) friendship and bishounen-ish-ness is nice...

Faster moving plot?In a Beetrain show?

[Dagger]

Originally Posted by Entropy

Faster moving plot?In a Beetrain show?

Haha, nicely put.

After watching episode 3, I'm a little confused about the exact nature of

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Camus's power(s). He can see short glimpses of the future, right? But does talking to flowers count as a supernatural ability, too? And could his precognitive power go both ways (i.e. is there any chance that he'd be able to see someone's past?).

Also, I don't know if this has been addressed before, but is Naoji really a Strahl candidate? I mean, he's from another country... I assume he's not actually a citizen of Kuchen, but I could be wrong.

The piano music at the very beginning of ep 3 is absolutely ravishing. This episode has taught me that Orpherus is a complete master of the cool entrance, heh. It was as though he just had to one-up Ludwig's sudden appearance.

It seems that "You are not alone now," or some variation thereof, is Orpherus's catchphrase... he says it at the end of every next-episode preview, and at least once during the body of episode 2. It's not so bad, as catchphrases go, but not nearly as cool as something like "You killed my father--prepare to die!"

[MartAnimE]

I can't even access to animesuki torrents main page now Well, I'm getting 03 right now, from shi-fa home page...

[domino]

Episode 3 seemed kind of awkwardly done, but it made me like Camus more. ^^ Poor little kid...

... and is it just me, or did Camus have a deeper voice when he was a little kid than he does now?
He hit puberty backwards!!

[Dagger]

I think his voice just didn't change all that much. Actually, before the show started airing I was surprised when I found out he wasn't going to be voiced by a woman--his character design is feminine enough that the (relatively) low voice sounds pleasantly incongruent. I was similarly surprised when I heard the same seiyuu play Sky Blue (another young-looking pretty boy) in Melody of Oblivion.

[Varekai]

Episode 3 was interesting i knew from playing the game that Camus had "strange powers" but now i have a reason to understand him better, an explanation that why he is so kind , especially with Ludwing

Im waiting for episode 4 ! i really want to know if there is some relation with Naoji`s story in the games and the one in the anime!!!

Spoiler for Episode 4 spoiler spoiler spoiler!!!:

i downloaded the raw for episode 4, i couldnt understand a thing, no jap knowlodge for me T.T, if someone could write a summary of it i will be very happy!! I dont know if the game explain why Naoji traveled to Kuchen, i know that there is this "past life relationship" with him and the Meine Liebe heroine, Erika, at least in the game ... i would like to know if its the same for the anime, but if our heroine, i believe that she will be .. or i hope so, is going to be Orpherus sweetheart i dont think they will keep it T.T

[MartAnimE]

I just finished watching episode 3. The plot was kinda weak this time imo, but thankfully for Camus, he doesn't have any deceased or long-lost relatives Anyway, the chibis are as cute as ever

Spoiler for Chibi Camus with sad eyes:

"I'm so sad and lonely, I'll just talk with this flower..."

Spoiler for Chibi Camus with cute eyes:

"I'm just so unbearably cute looking back with my surprised huge bright eyes"

Spoiler for Chibi Ludwig dramatic posing:

Even Ludwig surprised me with his chibi cuteness, but he still manages to keep his dramatic poses

I don't understand why wouldn't Camus's Father-sama and Mother-sama (this sounds so weird ) let him play outside with the other kids... was it because the other kids despised him because of his psychic powers or because he could talk to flowers and that would freak people out? ... maybe he only started to be able to "talk" to flowers, because he was a lonely child... poor Camus
Also, I didn't knew "Camus" was actually pronounced "ka-mi-us", and they still didn't say what was the blood relation between Ludwig and Camus, if they were gonna say it this was the perfect episode for that...
Well, Isaac oficially revealled his name and that girl is talking now (yay) so I guess the plot is moving... slowly, but moving...

[clem-kun]

Originally Posted by MartAnimE

thankfully for Camus, he doesn't have any deceased or long-lost relatives

Yeah, but his parents are still weird. Notice everyone has some strange family members:

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Orpherus => Orphaned, dead sister
Eduard => Sister lost, adulterated father, evil stepmother
Camus => Parents who lock him up
Naoji => Parents who send him away
Ludwig => [Girlfriend - dead?]

Notice here:

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In Episode 5's preview:



Hm... who's she? Does she... die?

[MartAnimE]

Originally Posted by clem-kun

Yeah, but his parents are still weird. Notice everyone has some strange family members:

Spoiler:

Orpherus => Orphaned, dead sister
Eduard => Sister lost, adulterated father, evil stepmother
Camus => Parents who lock him up
Naoji => Parents who send him away
Ludwig => [Girlfriend - dead?]

Notice here:

Spoiler:

In Episode 5's preview:



Hm... who's she? Does she... die?

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damn, I was hoping that Ludwig could somehow be Orpherus' sister misterious fiancee, but that spoiler completely exclues that out (unless he have been engaged twice before, and lost both girls, now that's tragic ) Well, I have no idea who can she be, but I bet that she was murdered by those suspicious looking guys in the picture...

[Trax]

Is it a fact that there actually is a blood relation between Camus and Ludwig? He could be a newphew of some sort, but also just the son of some business relations of Camus' parents or something. Anyway, I liked this Camus episode. Oh, and Rosenstolz academy is starting to look like a gossip house. Where's the dignity that Rosenstolz is supposed to represent? If not for people like Ludwig the gossips would run rampant.

[Dagger]

Originally Posted by MartAnimE

Spoiler:

damn, I was hoping that Ludwig could somehow be Orpherus' misterious fiancee, but that spoiler completely exclues that out (unless he have been engaged twice before, and lost both girls, now that's tragic ) Well, I have no idea who can she be, but I bet that she was murdered by those suspicious looking guys in the picture...

You mean Orpherus's sister, right?

In episode 2, when Beruze is talking to Eduard's step-mother, he says something about

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having found the perfect suitor for one of her (real) daughters. If this ever becomes a plot point later, I bet either Orphe or Ludwig will end up being the person Beruze has in mind. We didn't get to see very much of Eduard's three step-sisters, but does the girl shown with Ludwig in the ep. 5 preview look at all like any of them?

From the way Ludwig is dressed in the screenshots clem-kun posted, it looks as though he's about to get married or something, heh.

I'm wondering about the importance of the blimp-thing in the sky, symbolic or otherwise... in episode 1, it definitely functions as a bad omen, but I'm not sure about the purpose of showing it at the very end of episode 3. Some kind of foreshadowing?

[MartAnimE]

Originally Posted by Magus IX

You mean Orpherus's sister, right?

lol yeah, Orpherus' sister of course I missed the word... I'll edit it right away

Originally Posted by Magus IX

In episode 2, when Beruze is talking to Eduard's step-mother, he says something about

Spoiler:

having found the perfect suitor for one of her (real) daughters. If this ever becomes a plot point later, I bet either Orphe or Ludwig will end up being the person Beruze has in mind. We didn't get to see very much of Eduard's three step-sisters, but does the girl shown with Ludwig in the ep. 5 preview look at all like any of them?

From the way Ludwig is dressed in the screenshots clem-kun posted, it looks as though he's about to get married or something, heh.

Spoiler:

Maybe those images don't represent a past event and the girl in episode 5's preview pictures is actually one of Ed's sisters who is about to get marry to Ludwig Let's see in the pictures:







does she look like any of them? we have to keep in mind the difference of years though, so the only one who could actually be that girl is pheraps the younger one of Ed's sisters, who is also the only one who is blonde... what do you think? nuh, I don't think so, they don't look alike at all

[auriya]

And of course, Ludwig manages not to smile in that screencap even though he's getting married.

Btw, anyone else noticed the ominous blimp of doom hanging around a lot? It's in the first episode just before Orph hears about his sister dying and floats past again at the end of episode 3. I think it might be in the OP as well. Does this foreshadow something, perhaps?

[wao]

Ahhh, suddenly I want to watch ep 4 just to see that preview of Ludwig in a suit, it suits him so well (no pun intended)! But then again I bet you he looks good in ever ything...


What is a bit funny is that someone as feminine and gentle as Camus is not that his seiyuu voices someone similarly gentle like SKy BLue in MoO, but that his seiyuu voices an angsty teenager called Kira and an even more violent angsty teenager called Yuuki And a troublesome little brat called Son Goku ...

I still am going to end up dropping it if all the stilted conversation continues, but then... It's only 13 eps so I guess no big problem...

[MartAnimE]

Originally Posted by Magus IX

I'm wondering about the importance of the blimp-thing in the sky, symbolic or otherwise... in episode 1, it definitely functions as a bad omen, but I'm not sure about the purpose of showing it at the very end of episode 3. Some kind of foreshadowing?

Originally Posted by auriya

Btw, anyone else noticed the ominous blimp of doom hanging around a lot? It's in the first episode just before Orph hears about his sister dying and floats past again at the end of episode 3. I think it might be in the OP as well. Does this foreshadow something, perhaps?

You guys are both rigth! I have noticed it before but I didn't gave it much importance... it could indeed have been used as some kind of foreshadowing... but why didn't they used it in episode 02 as well if that was the case? (at least I didn't noticed it)... it would be cool if this was some kind of thing we could look for in every episode, like that silly black cat who appears in every single Trigun episode anyway, pics above



Yes, it's in the OP as well...



Episode 01



Episode 03

[Dagger]

Thanks for the screenshots! Let's see... weren't blimps used for war or something related to war around this time in history (1935)? Of course I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about, but maybe someone else who does can comment.