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Chosen_Hero · 2018-12-17, 14:08

^The lamp was already sealed in a interdimensional vault and the bad guys still got to it. If that vault didn't stop them, what makes you think a normal run of the mill vault will?

bakato · 2018-12-17, 14:28

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Salem doesn't need the lamp for the question. She needs to gather all four relics to summon gods. She's been around long enough and has enough power that if she gets any of them, Ozpin probably won't be able to get them back. So if they surrender the lamp or barter it to her, that's a permanent loss.

Personally, the only reason I don't go with the "ask the last question and toss it away" is because Grimm are attracted to it. One of them gets the relic and may as well be in Salem's hands, so it has to be placed in something like a vault.

Does she know though? She didn’t seem like she was looking for a way to die.

Random Wanderer · 2018-12-17, 14:54

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Does she know though? She didn’t seem like she was looking for a way to die.

Are you kidding? She's been looking for a way to die ever since the god of light made her immortal.

bakato · 2018-12-17, 16:40

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Are you kidding? She's been looking for a way to die ever since the god of light made her immortal.

Ozma was the only one who knew what gathering the relics would do and I;m not sure he ever told Salem. If she doesn't know, then I can only assume she wants to enslave/destroy humanity to spite Ozma.

Random Wanderer · 2018-12-17, 16:56

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Ozma was the only one who knew what gathering the relics would do and I;m not sure he ever told Salem. If she doesn't know, then I can only assume she wants to enslave/destroy humanity to spite Ozma.

He told her everything, remember? That's what set off the disagreement that eventually led to them fighting each other.

bakato · 2018-12-17, 17:16

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He told her everything, remember? That's what set off the disagreement that eventually led to them fighting each other.

In that very scene, she wanted to rule humans rather than redeem them.

Random Wanderer · 2018-12-17, 17:59

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In that very scene, she wanted to rule humans rather than redeem them.

When she was with Ozma, sure. Now? Calling back the gods would allow her to die when they destroy the world.

bakato · 2018-12-17, 19:23

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When she was with Ozma, sure. Now? Calling back the gods would allow her to die when they destroy the world.

Then that makes things simple. All they have to do is tell Salem's chronies about this and everyone except Tyrian will abandon ship.

RDNexus · 2018-12-18, 03:08

I'm sure it wouldn't be that simple to demove them of Salem's cause...

JagdPanther · 2018-12-22, 20:36

And the Week Late Train rolls into Episode 8...

Maria has taken the role of comic relief this season. I don't mind that, because, quite frankly, they're doing a really good job with her as the rebellious old woman character. I was dying with the "cashews" story and the, "Maybe she's dead!"

So, JNR now knows what RWBY, Qrow, Maria, and Oscar know. They took that well. The ever-optimistic Nora was probably the angriest, I thought, even with Jaune tapping the back of Oscar's favorite head up against the wall. Shows how hard the most zealous can fall.

Is there an implication that Ruby's eye's reacted to Cinder for a reason other than the fact that Cinder has a sort of Grim arm...?

Because I would've thought that that was particularly clear-cut, otherwise.

Anyway, I guess there's a two-week furlough for the crew of the Week Late Train. Time to pull into a siding and let the Flying Kipper pass.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, fellow RWBY fans!

bakato · 2018-12-22, 20:53

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Originally Posted by JagdPanther

And the Week Late Train rolls into Episode 8...

Maria has taken the role of comic relief this season. I don't mind that, because, quite frankly, they're doing a really good job with her as the rebellious old woman character. I was dying with the "cashews" story and the, "Maybe she's dead!"

So, JNR now knows what RWBY, Qrow, Maria, and Oscar know. They took that well. The ever-optimistic Nora was probably the angriest, I thought, even with Jaune tapping the back of Oscar's favorite head up against the wall. Shows how hard the most zealous can fall.

Is there an implication that Ruby's eye's reacted to Cinder for a reason other than the fact that Cinder has a sort of Grim arm...?

Because I would've thought that that was particularly clear-cut, otherwise.

Anyway, I guess there's a two-week furlough for the crew of the Week Late Train. Time to pull into a siding and let the Flying Kipper pass.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, fellow RWBY fans!

Apparently, Cinder was already part Grimm.

JagdPanther · 2018-12-23, 20:04

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Apparently, Cinder was already part Grimm.

Yeah, that's sort of my point. If the eyes react to Grimm, why does that exchange imply it was for another reason? Or does Ruby just not know that about Cinder?

Twi · 2018-12-23, 22:21

She doesn't know about Cinder's arm. Remember, only Raven knows about Cinder since the reveal didn't come until she was in the chamber and killed Vernal. That means outside of the bad guys, only Raven knows she's part Grimm and capable of draining Maiden powers.

Skaddix · 2018-12-24, 03:33

So Maria has Pre-Flex is that suppose how she lined up her attacks against Tic Tock?
Seems like it would have helped her figure out Tic Toc would bite though her weapon and not get her eyes cut out...

JagdPanther · 2018-12-24, 20:28

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She doesn't know about Cinder's arm. Remember, only Raven knows about Cinder since the reveal didn't come until she was in the chamber and killed Vernal. That means outside of the bad guys, only Raven knows she's part Grimm and capable of draining Maiden powers.

Right-o. Thanks.

RPG_Fanatic · 2018-12-25, 08:37

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Sigh. Add team JNR to the "blame the victim" crowd. Didn't any of these kids pay attention? Or remember that they already signed up for a war they couldn't win the day they chose to become Huntresses/Hunstmen? Why does having it pointed out turn them into ragey angst monsters?

I have been expecting Jaune to snap at Ozpin like that since the start of Volume 5. There is still no evidence that anyone has helped Jaune deal with his grief and guilt over Pyrrha's death. Like how snapping at Cinder made perfect sense to me from where Jaune was at the time, this doesn't surprise me either. Anyone who has been paying any attention to how Jaune has been acting post Beacon Fall should have known he would react the worst to more secrets that Ozpin kept.

Tenzen12 · 2018-12-25, 10:43

Ozpin had it coming. It's sad he got to hide while Oscar took full brunt of anger in his stead though. Oz really need either apologise or own everything he did (or both), not hiding like little kid who is afraid punishment from his parents.

NAJ P. Jackson · 2018-12-25, 14:43

Sucks for Oscar to be the new meat skin for Ozpin.

Ligerleon89 · 2018-12-26, 16:10

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Sucks for Oscar to be the new meat skin for Ozpin.

Oscar hasn't been 100% okay the moment Ozpin's memories were revealed. He was already beginning to come to believe that everything could turn out okay, only to be hurt physically and mentally. For Ozpin to leave out so much secrets, which got him punched out by Qrow, taking the brunt of the anger by Team RWBY and now Team RJN. And Ozpin locks himself in, after he just lost hope. Oscar is a boy from a farm, reluctantly doing exactly what Ozpin told him too after being convinced to leave his home after he hears a voice out of nowhere. He's just a kid who now has to bear with Ozpin's mistakes as if he made those mistakes himself. I wouldn't be surprised if he's trying to go home because he can't take this anymore. I wouldn't blame him for doing that, but the problem is getting back home is easier said than done, and we've no idea if he's going to run into trouble, which is still likely to happen.

Like I said, whatever happens to Oscar is on both teams' hands plus Qrow. Where things are heading currently, it's not safe for Oscar to be alone out there. Oz definitely knows what he put this kid through, so he needs to stop whining and self-loathing about his mistakes and consequences and take responsibility. This thing is only over if he gives up. If anyone who has been fighting Salem gives up, and can't get over the hurt of such an incredible secret held away due to Oz's fear. Oz is not that good a guy as he used to be, but Salem will not stop, and she's way worse than Oz.

bakato · 2018-12-26, 17:17

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Ozpin had it coming. It's sad he got to hide while Oscar took full brunt of anger in his stead though. Oz really need either apologise or own everything he did (or both), not hiding like little kid who is afraid punishment from his parents.

He's not hiding and he didn't do it because he's afraid of punishment. He just gave up.

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