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Jan-Poo · 2009-07-30, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

That they didn't show how the remaining four died leaves the question on if they are really dead. But the show by Beatrice and the letter pretty much confirms they are dead...

I wonder XD
The ending scroll only says "missing" on their personal description. Although it is said that "when the seagulls cry" noone is left alive.

Battler-kun · 2009-07-30, 17:15

*Sigh* I guess i have to repeat myself.

To fast paced.

sento · 2009-07-30, 17:23

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Originally Posted by Battler-kun

*Sigh* I guess i have to repeat myself.

To fast paced.

You're joking right?

Because this episode have perfect pacing.

Battler-kun · 2009-07-30, 17:26

sento:
no i am not joking.

sento · 2009-07-30, 17:27

Then you don't understand what it's "fast paced". Ok then.

Is obvious that some people will never be satisfied... even with something like this.

unconfirmed · 2009-07-30, 17:27

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Originally Posted by Battler-kun

*Sigh* I guess i have to repeat myself.

To fast paced.

It's meant to be that way, and I'd say your reaction is because of the shocking revelations they put you through all at once rather than a matter of bad pacing. After all, the tea party + ??? are the least skimped down parts of this entire first arc.

**Klashikari** · 2009-07-30, 17:27

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Originally Posted by Battler-kun

sento:
no i am not joking.

I believe more explanations and input, instead of a short "too fast paced" would help him and others (me included) to get why you feel this way.

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Originally Posted by sento

Then you don't understand what it's "fast paced". Ok then.

I'm sorry, but that won't do. It is a matter of opinion and interpretation. The fact you or anyone else can say it is fast paced doesn't mean it isn't the case for him, though more explanations are required.

June 1983 · 2009-07-30, 17:28

Yeah, "fast-paced" is something I actually value in the climax of a suspense story, oddly enough.

sento · 2009-07-30, 17:30

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Originally Posted by Klashikari

I'm sorry, but that won't do. It is a matter of opinion and interpretation. The fact you or anyone else can say it is fast paced doesn't mean it isn't the case for him, though more explanations are required.

Yeah, sorry Klash. I was a bit rude.

Battler-kun · 2009-07-30, 17:34

Well, i initially started with reading the manga.

Seeing all the things they cut out, it is too fast paced.

I can also guess with the later episodes that , with high probabilty, a ton of material is cut out of the anime, which will be shown in the manga.

Thing like character developement and interaction.

Eva vs. Natsuhii? Hardly seen any rivarly, hostility in the anime.

I guess, all the people that says, that it is not too fast paced, have to read the manga to judge it better.

However, even if i would be a anime-viewer only, i can see that scenes are skipping fast, that there is hardly depth shown of the characters etc. pp

**Klashikari** · 2009-07-30, 17:37

The problem here is that... you are mentioning things that happened in the previous episodes. But yet you were complaining that 1-5 is too fast paced.

So the question here is: what is TOO fast paced in THIS episode? That is actually why Sento and I (and probably more) are wondering.

sento · 2009-07-30, 17:37

We are talking about THIS episode, I-V.

You say it was fast-paced. And if you follow the manga, then you even didn't get to see the tea party and ????...

So I don't get you.

Christen · 2009-07-30, 17:49

Maybe he's talking about the previous episodes.

Battler-kun · 2009-07-30, 17:53

Yes, i didn't get to see the tea party in the manga yet.

I am using common sense

Manga:
Volume 3
-Chapter 11: Invisible Witch
-Chapter 12: Eva VS Natsuhi
-Chapter 13: Battler VS Eva
-Chapter 14: The Second Night 1
-Chapter 15: The Second Night 2

After so many chapters still nothing of the Tea Party. So it will be like the previous episodes where the i have already read the manga, that many things are missing. Too much.

sento · 2009-07-30, 17:57

Well, you're wrong.

When the last episode ended, at that point in the novel there was only around 5-10 minutes remaining of EP1. And then Tea Parties.

So, this time the pacing was almost perfect. That's why (with the good direction and the well placed music) everyone was prasing on how good and awesome this episode was in the first place.

Orophin · 2009-07-30, 18:01

You are only making assumptions. Episode I-V was very close to the VN in term of pacing. Almost nothing was left out.

TheForsaken · 2009-07-30, 18:07

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Originally Posted by Battler-kun

Yes, i didn't get to see the tea party in the manga yet.

I am using common sense

Manga:
Volume 3
-Chapter 11: Invisible Witch
-Chapter 12: Eva VS Natsuhi
-Chapter 13: Battler VS Eva
-Chapter 14: The Second Night 1
-Chapter 15: The Second Night 2

After so many chapters still nothing of the Tea Party. So it will be like the previous episodes where the i have already read the manga, that many things are missing. Too much.

Let's see:
- Ep 1 = Chap 01-04
- Ep 2 = Chap 05-07
- Ep 3 = Chap 08-14
- Ep 4 = Chap 15-20
- Ep 5 = Chap 21
Then how the hell ep 5 is fast-paced ?

And talking about "many things are missing"

Spoiler for Manga:

MeoTwister5 · 2009-07-30, 18:37

The manga isn't exactly a good comparative basis of pacing...

Battler-kun · 2009-07-30, 18:42

Oh, so it is originally this paced so it aims to be confusing.

Well anyways, so far i can't relate with the anime, cause of many lacking things that are needed to correlate with the characters.

A pity that i am not rich. I would give them more money to make more episodes out of it.

FlareKnight · 2009-07-30, 19:04

Anyways the first part of this story seems to have wrapped up and I'm definitely going to be thinking about what is going on here for a while. Obviously there is only so much to go on with us being 5 episodes in.

Battler did put up a strong front not budging on the culprit being human. No matter what appeared before him he kept on denying until the very end. Sadly just denying and saying you'll figure things out is different from actually doing it. I'm between Battler and the others in how they looked at it. Do think it's possible people could cause the deaths that occured. But at the same time do believe there is magic connected to this and in the existence of the witches.

Bern was a pretty cool character from her first appearance here.

Definitely the best episode of the 5 so far.

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2009-07-30, 19:04	Link #180
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Anyways the first part of this story seems to have wrapped up and I'm definitely going to be thinking about what is going on here for a while. Obviously there is only so much to go on with us being 5 episodes in. Battler did put up a strong front not budging on the culprit being human. No matter what appeared before him he kept on denying until the very end. Sadly just denying and saying you'll figure things out is different from actually doing it. I'm between Battler and the others in how they looked at it. Do think it's possible people could cause the deaths that occured. But at the same time do believe there is magic connected to this and in the existence of the witches. Bern was a pretty cool character from her first appearance here. Definitely the best episode of the 5 so far. __________________ Anime-Evo

2009-07-30, 17:15	Link #162
Battler-kun Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Sigh I guess i have to repeat myself. To fast paced.

2009-07-30, 17:26	Link #164
Battler-kun Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	sento: no i am not joking.

2009-07-30, 17:27	Link #165
sento Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Then you don't understand what it's "fast paced". Ok then. Is obvious that some people will never be satisfied... even with something like this.

2009-07-30, 17:28	Link #168
June 1983 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Warwick, RI Age: 40	Yeah, "fast-paced" is something I actually value in the climax of a suspense story, oddly enough.

2009-07-30, 17:34	Link #170
Battler-kun Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Well, i initially started with reading the manga. Seeing all the things they cut out, it is too fast paced. I can also guess with the later episodes that , with high probabilty, a ton of material is cut out of the anime, which will be shown in the manga. Thing like character developement and interaction. Eva vs. Natsuhii? Hardly seen any rivarly, hostility in the anime. I guess, all the people that says, that it is not too fast paced, have to read the manga to judge it better. However, even if i would be a anime-viewer only, i can see that scenes are skipping fast, that there is hardly depth shown of the characters etc. pp

2009-07-30, 17:37	Link #172
sento Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	We are talking about THIS episode, I-V. You say it was fast-paced. And if you follow the manga, then you even didn't get to see the tea party and ????... So I don't get you.

2009-07-30, 17:49	Link #173
Christen Endless Nine Artist Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In a certain tropical island Age: 38	Maybe he's talking about the previous episodes.

2009-07-30, 17:53	Link #174
Battler-kun Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Yes, i didn't get to see the tea party in the manga yet. I am using common sense Manga: Volume 3 -Chapter 11: Invisible Witch -Chapter 12: Eva VS Natsuhi -Chapter 13: Battler VS Eva -Chapter 14: The Second Night 1 -Chapter 15: The Second Night 2 After so many chapters still nothing of the Tea Party. So it will be like the previous episodes where the i have already read the manga, that many things are missing. Too much.

2009-07-30, 17:57	Link #175
sento Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Well, you're wrong. When the last episode ended, at that point in the novel there was only around 5-10 minutes remaining of EP1. And then Tea Parties. So, this time the pacing was almost perfect. That's why (with the good direction and the well placed music) everyone was prasing on how good and awesome this episode was in the first place.

2009-07-30, 18:01	Link #176
Orophin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Age: 35	You are only making assumptions. Episode I-V was very close to the VN in term of pacing. Almost nothing was left out.

2009-07-30, 18:42	Link #179
Battler-kun Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Oh, so it is originally this paced so it aims to be confusing. Well anyways, so far i can't relate with the anime, cause of many lacking things that are needed to correlate with the characters. A pity that i am not rich. I would give them more money to make more episodes out of it.