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zeniselv · 2013-05-19, 05:37

well... the deaths of pokle and ponzu shouldnt be such a surprise, at least one was guaranteed to die , that hug(sudden romantic development)in the past episode was a huge death flag.

Funkatron · 2013-05-19, 07:10

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Originally Posted by Excorsism

Who would've thought our cute little green haired bee controlling girl introduced at the beginning of the series would be food for a gun-crazed grunt Chimera ant? God damn it Togashi!

I should know by now that Togashi spares no one but the main MCs from death but I had hope

Re-enactment from last night

BLAM!
ME: Okay, maybe it was a flesh would. Run Pon...
BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM!
ME: *dies a little on the inside*
OMNOMNOMNOM
ME: *starts bawling*

Dengar · 2013-05-19, 07:29

Maybe they can be wished back with the Dragon Balls?

Sugetsu · 2013-05-19, 11:04

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Episode 79 was really good. I just get a little uneasy watching HXH now... I don't really know why but this series have turned much darker than usual; It stresses me out!

The author is playing to our emotion again in this episode, just like they did with the 2 kids. He is showing us a strong bond between the arrow guy and the bee girl (I am not good with names! )... It is only a matter of time before their union comes to a very abrupt and possibly gory end...

I get it... By engaging our emotions with each episode the producers are developing a stronger sense of immersion, but damn... I hope that this series doesn't air during the kid's time slot.

A dark arc indeed.

Quoting myself to remind everyone that is only going to get worse... The formula that the author is following is to play to our emotions by creating strong bonds between the viewers and the characters then severing them in the worst possible way. It almost seems certain that Kite will also meet his end sometime soon... I just hope I am wrong about him =(

Gyro's background story was a dead giveaway... his life story will give a clear purpose to the ant King once he is born.

Haak · 2013-05-19, 11:18

Gyro's story was kinda over the top and a bit lazy in the exposition but it was engaging in it's own way. I figured it was going to be relevant but I'm not sure if I'll like the reason. It's confirmed that the Chimera ants can inherit memory but I hope there's a different explanation for this because that kind of memory isn't exactly going to pass over through your genes. Kaito's last monologue was even more confusing since it seems like he knows Chimera Ants can inherit memory or the the personality traits of people which I'd like an explanation for too. Certainly there is a certain amount of evidence now that shows personality can be based on our genes but I think it's a bit of a leap to say that the chimera ants obtaining genes from the NGL leaders specifically is a very bad development. Otherwise it was another fairly decent build up. Saw Ponzu and the arrow guy's death coming a mile away but it's still kinda disheartening. They made such an adorable couple.

Thankfully, Gon and Killua have finally entered the battlefield so this is going to become a lot more engaging.

Dengar · 2013-05-19, 11:32

^It just follows a certain philosophy that genes can store memories. Happens a lot in fiction.

SidVicious · 2013-05-19, 13:50

Ponzu...

SHINOBI-03 · 2013-05-19, 13:51

-EPISODE 80-

Spoiler for Part 1:

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Spoiler for Part 2:

ookamigirl · 2013-05-19, 13:52

Gyro's history was just too cruel.
This episode was really interesting.
Looks like even the hybrids have enemies lurking in the shadows.
Innocents still dying as food...
It's time hunters get seriously involved.

Haak · 2013-05-19, 13:57

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Originally Posted by Dengar

^It just follows a certain philosophy that genes can store memories. Happens a lot in fiction.

It does? Wow, I must've missed it a lot because the only other examples I think of is the Realm of the Elderling series (which it did kinda remind me of) and that wasn't even genes.

Dengar · 2013-05-19, 14:44

^There is a LOT of fiction out there. You just haven't been reading/watching/playing the ones that feature this idea. The idea builds off of the fact that animals seem to "know" things which by all rights they shouldn't.

Haak · 2013-05-19, 14:56

Just found the trope.

Arkeus · 2013-05-19, 15:21

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Originally Posted by SHINOBI-03

-EPISODE 80-

[SPOILER=Part 1]Manga: Chapters 189, 190, last page of 203, first two thirds of 204

Spoiler for Gyro:

You misunderstand the manga.

Dengar · 2013-05-19, 16:27

^Mind enlightening us on that? It's not that I necessarily don't believe you. It's just the remark is very vague and lacking in substance.

Goty · 2013-05-20, 06:52

Someone refresh my memory, did Gon recognize Ponzu by the bees and the hat? I don't remember those scenes from the manga, where i think the sender of the message wasn't important..

Dengar · 2013-05-20, 08:08

I think they know but are just not talking about it, because, you know...

SHINOBI-03 · 2013-05-20, 08:33

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Originally Posted by Arkeus

You misunderstand the manga.

On which part?

HandofFate · 2013-05-20, 14:12

Wow, brutal episode.

I knew this arc was a brutal one, but didn't expect the anime to be more graphic and brutal in its depictions than the manga.

Usually for this stuff, they tone it down in its animation form.

Poetic Justice · 2013-05-20, 14:40

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Originally Posted by SHINOBI-03

-EPISODE 80-

Spoiler for Part 1:

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Spoiler for Part 2:

I haven't been following the anime for a while now, But it looks like the anime is butchering a lot of content from the manga based on your post.

I mean this is by far the most brutal arc of the series and it should be shown as such.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2013-05-20, 14:40

I actually think that Ponzu was spared a bit. She got shot in the head. That’s one “nice” death if you ask me. If Togashi truly wanted to mess with our head, he’ll have Ponzu eaten alive while we hear her screaming

. But yeah, I agree that this arc is rather grim. I really hope it won't become a Tomino-esque "kill-em all" arc.

Also, I’m not a manga reader, so I wonder how in the hell do some of the ant-generals obtain some fancy clothes (like the suit worn by that pink koala)? As far as I can remember, before the koala appeared, they only had villagers to eat, right? And I don’t think any of those villagers conveniently owned a suit, let alone a suit the size of a koala

. Does these ants has the ability of a tailor? Are their clothes custom-made by themselves? Sorry if you think this is a stupid question. I’m just curious.

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Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Gyro's story was kinda over the top and a bit lazy in the exposition but it was engaging in it's own way. I figured it was going to be relevant but I'm not sure if I'll like the reason. It's confirmed that the Chimera ants can inherit memory but I hope there's a different explanation for this because that kind of memory isn't exactly going to pass over through your genes. Kaito's last monologue was even more confusing since it seems like he knows Chimera Ants can inherit memory or the the personality traits of people which I'd like an explanation for too. Certainly there is a certain amount of evidence now that shows personality can be based on our genes but I think it's a bit of a leap to say that the chimera ants obtaining genes from the NGL leaders specifically is a very bad development. Otherwise it was another fairly decent build up. Saw Ponzu and the arrow guy's death coming a mile away but it's still kinda disheartening. They made such an adorable couple. Thankfully, Gon and Killua have finally entered the battlefield so this is going to become a lot more engaging. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

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SHINOBI-03 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012	-EPISODE 80- Spoiler for Part 1: Manga: Chapters 189, 190, last page of 203, first two thirds of 204 Spoiler for Gyro: Episode starts with a backstory of Gyro. This part comes from the the last page of chapter 203 and first two thirds of chapter 204 Now, the back story is as how it was presented in the manga. However, there’s an issue. The story was presented with a statement: Gyro is in the same town Gon & Killua were when they were challenging a certain someone and therefore, he was still alive. Here in the anime, it shows us that he got killed already! Although that wasn’t confirmed yet so there’s still a chance he’s still alive, but hiding somewhere… Spoiler for Correction: Just went back and read this part in the manga again, human Gyro is confirmed dead. --- Spoiler for Our hunters: Guns and drugs do not mix!! Note that this scene was Pokkle & Ponzu’s first appearance in the manga and we see Ponzu is wounded on her shoulder. She didn’t get injured in the anime ---------------------- Spoiler for Part 2: Spoiler for Angry Colt is angry!: --- Spoiler for HEADS OFF!!: As seen here, this is one of the first censored gore scenes in the manga. I checked and it was censored in the magazine version as well and it’s the exact version in volume 19 Spoiler for And now we get the most disturbing looking spider ever!!: As if that “Cute-eyes Titan” wasn’t silly enough…! Spoiler for Orange Arrow: Spoiler for Another head: Spoiler for Backsting: Sparkles and old men do not mix!! Spoiler for The one moment that shocked me the most first time reading the manga: In the manga the ant tore her to shreds, but shooting her dead body over and over doesn’t make it better!! --- NOW THIS IS TOO MUCH!!!! A Biohazard with Chimera Ants would sell better than what Capcom made and called Resident Evil 6… --------------------- Gyro’s backstory was a good addition to the episode and it sure put an emphasis about him despite not knowing how he ended. And…… Ponzu……… 8.5/10 Last edited by SHINOBI-03; 2013-05-19 at 15:10.

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	^It just follows a certain philosophy that genes can store memories. Happens a lot in fiction.

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	^There is a LOT of fiction out there. You just haven't been reading/watching/playing the ones that feature this idea. The idea builds off of the fact that animals seem to "know" things which by all rights they shouldn't.

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Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Just found the trope. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

2013-05-19, 16:27	Link #2854
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	^Mind enlightening us on that? It's not that I necessarily don't believe you. It's just the remark is very vague and lacking in substance.

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Goty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Someone refresh my memory, did Gon recognize Ponzu by the bees and the hat? I don't remember those scenes from the manga, where i think the sender of the message wasn't important..

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	I think they know but are just not talking about it, because, you know...

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HandofFate Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Wow, brutal episode. I knew this arc was a brutal one, but didn't expect the anime to be more graphic and brutal in its depictions than the manga. Usually for this stuff, they tone it down in its animation form. __________________ ...

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Obelisk ze Tormentor Black Steel Knight Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indonesia	I actually think that Ponzu was spared a bit. She got shot in the head. That’s one “nice” death if you ask me. If Togashi truly wanted to mess with our head, he’ll have Ponzu eaten alive while we hear her screaming . But yeah, I agree that this arc is rather grim. I really hope it won't become a Tomino-esque "kill-em all" arc. Also, I’m not a manga reader, so I wonder how in the hell do some of the ant-generals obtain some fancy clothes (like the suit worn by that pink koala)? As far as I can remember, before the koala appeared, they only had villagers to eat, right? And I don’t think any of those villagers conveniently owned a suit, let alone a suit the size of a koala . Does these ants has the ability of a tailor? Are their clothes custom-made by themselves? Sorry if you think this is a stupid question. I’m just curious. __________________