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Perfect 10 | 12 | 16.22% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 18 | 24.32% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 16 | 21.62% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 12.16% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 6.76% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 7 | 9.46% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.35% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.35% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 5 | 6.76% | |
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2011-11-03, 09:21 | Link #241 | |
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The point, I would assume, is that Miria's fight with Hysteria is futile and they need Claire or Priscilla. The fact that Hysteria got back up indicates that these FOs are zombies in a real sense. They will not die like normal claymores and furthermore they are going to awake. This is a no-win situation for the Ghosts. It did start out like a true fight, but the way it ended I believe it was Yagi stating that Miria never had a chance to begin with against Hysteria or any FO. In a way it feeds precisely to you statement that Hysteria had an advantage, but in an entirely different way though Gooral. The advantage is that Hysteria is undead. It does not matter what Miria does, she cannot defeat Hysteria if Hysteria is a zombie with no real vital point. The way Miria stabbed Hysteria may have been an asspull, but regardless there is nothing Miria can do to kill undead warriors. I think that is the overall point Gooral that even with a blatant Deus Ex Machina Miria cannot defeat Hysteria. They need Claire or Priscilla to solve the situation. I think Cassandra's awakening and Hysteria showing that these FOs cannot be killed like Claymores adds momentum to the fact that the Ghosts, Miria, everyone needs to retreat immediately. |
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2011-11-03, 09:24 | Link #243 | |
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Also, the very fact of so many seemingly impossible things happening can over time cause an allergic reaction in some people. |
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2011-11-03, 09:24 | Link #244 | ||
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If you consider the sword's lenght,it makes perfect sense to describe the dynamic of the action like i did, only AFTER being stabbed Histy lose her feets and fall on her knees in front of Miria. Quote:
You are wrong 'cause you don't consider the prospective: everything i said makes perfect sense if you consider that in page 287 Miria and Histy faces are NOT as close as in page 288. In page 287 a smaller part of the sword has pierced Histy's neck,while in page 288 a greater part of the sword is involved since Histy has fallen on the sword. Page 287 and 288 have a completely different prospective, you have to consider it. |
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2011-11-03, 09:29 | Link #247 | |
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I guess my main point is that Yagi can do whatever he wants, but it could change the manga radically. The DoDs are completely open in regards to what Yagi wants to do. edit: Just think the DoDs could be this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgMgUehD1Tw Last edited by Nixl; 2011-11-03 at 09:39. |
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2011-11-03, 09:40 | Link #248 |
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Yes I totally agree with this, lets not forget that miria got killed in the dream world and come back to life when she was inside the destroyer. The rule of if you die in here you die in the real world but that rules only happens after that. how lucky miria is, right ?
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2011-11-03, 09:47 | Link #251 | |
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Grabbing the handle of a sword with her mouth is an action that for Claymore's standard is incredibly easy,and hiding that action for a split second is even more easy if you consider Miria's hair. No matter what you say,there are things that are WAY more unbelivable: warriors moving faster than human eye can see, Claire's QS, Helen capable of trasforming her arm in some sort of drill, fusion and defusion with the destroyer, Anastasia's ability,warriors capable of destroying walls and rock with their sword like it was nothing (do you think this is normal???),warriors being able to jump who knows how meters high,warriors that don't die istantly even when the suffer incredibly absurd wounds (sometimes they can even walk aroun for a bit,lol),Cassandra's anti-physics ability(lol,this yes that's something REALLY strange)....... ....so sorry if when i see those reactions for what Miria just did i think that people are exaggerating.....and i'm especially suspicious when the complains start not only before a proper translation but even before the raw is out...... Is it true that Yagi could have done that scene in a better way? Yes, i can agree with that. Is it true that that scene is as absurd as some people say? No,not at all, especially considering what we have seen in claymore till now. |
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2011-11-03, 09:52 | Link #252 |
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as expected, these 3 former #1s are being used as AB
what ever will happen later, Miria had defeated a former #1 and survived, her fighting style reminds me when Clare trying to escape from Ophelia wonder how many will survive when there are 3 ABs around
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2011-11-03, 09:56 | Link #253 |
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If those 3 monster have also gained Prissy's fast-heal ability.........i think the rebels should ascape as soon as possible now that Cassy and Roxy are busy.....but i doubt Histy will let Miria escape easily.
I wouldn't be surprised if the only way to kill those 3 is to hit their heads (the same is valid for Prissy probably). |
2011-11-03, 10:01 | Link #254 |
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Malak, I can't speak for the rest of the group, but I think the point is that it's not impossible for Miria to do what she just did. We all know claymores are capable of doing unbelievable, physics-defying things as easily as taking a leak. What I'm saying is that Miria's counterattack required a series of actions that are more taxing to execute compared to simply bringing down a sword. Of course, there's that bit about Miria insulting Hysteria about her obsession with elegance that could've distorted Hysteria's focus...
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2011-11-03, 10:06 | Link #255 |
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I don't know why everyone is so pissed off with this chapter. I liked to tell the truth. Yagi moved the plot forward fast enough so we wouldn't die from boredom! Look at Hysteria's and Miria's battle it started as cool and ended as boring so Yagi had to finish it so we find a new thing to look at and expect. Roxanne's past of when she was defeated I expect to see it in the next chapter as she awakened and this is the last thing for us to know about her. As for Miria's sword technique i don't think it was impossible she used her awakening mirage to get the sword and attacked Hysteria in a split of second. IMO this chapter is not bad at all but I think Yagi will have to work hard on Roxanne's awakened form since we know that Hysteria's awakened form will have something to do with speed.
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In any case, I'm not going to argue about this any longer, because there's no point in a debate that basically revolves around whether excuses can be found for everything. We all know that as fans we can always find excuses for the author if we so choose. That does not invalidate the opinion of those who don't readily accept these excuses for a particular case. All else aside. we certainly have to give it up for Yagi for inspiring the most sexual innuendo filled thread yet. There are oral sex or prostitute references in like almost half the posts. |
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2011-11-03, 10:17 | Link #257 | |
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*** Look at ch.121's raw*** ***Shut off the Pc,go in the kitchen and drink a glass of water*** ***Look in the air for about 5 minutes*** Clayore's fan: "A GIANT TURTLE!!!????? Histy's awakened form is a giant turtle???" "Are you serious, Yagi? Are you serious!?" ***Danm Yagi,he's doing it on purpose.I'm sure of it!*** ***He'll drive me crazy.......*** |
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2011-11-03, 10:30 | Link #258 | |
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i mean - i m with you - there are so many impossible things happening in this manga, wt's so unbelievable with miria holdng a sword with her teeth and pierced an unprepared hysteria (who thought miria wouldn't be able to do a thing) with her already lightning fast speed? how hard could it be for miria to bounce back even without arms? even if miria wasn't hiding the sword, it's just a sword nearby she suddenly picked up and pierced through a surprised hysteria, y not? if u keep arguing on that matter and that really bothers u, irene's QS should have already angered you so much in the early chapters, y become so picky so suddenly? some readers can be so harsh, even if an artist does 10 great things and then makes 1 flaw/mistake, they immediately transform into an authoritative judge and complain "it sucks, it disappoints me, the artist is bad, it doesn't make sense, it is crap, i would give it a failed score, i rate it 1/D-" so harsh. once in a while just ignore wt u think is bad, dun read the comic too critically, express wt u think could be improved but dun dig it too deeply n repeat n repeat again while using v stern language - wt u think as unreasonable/wrong might just be that u ve misinterpreted the author's design/intention |
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2011-11-03, 10:38 | Link #259 | |
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I know you didn't say that those actions were impossible (infact i never accused you of that) butyou implied that they seemed impossible. Read better the next time,i simply said that that action wasn't even close to being impossible. Quote:
It can very well be lower,like 70 grades, and it's quite easy to grab the sword from that position in an instant. It doesn't matter if Miria did something a bit strange,we understand that it's strange since we know what happens next, but it's quite clear that Histy would have NEVER imagined an attack like that. To be effective against Histy it's obvious that the whole action must have been executed in an instant so it doesn't mater if in that instant Miria did some "suspicious" movement,the key point is that Histy couldn't imagine to be attacked at all,so her brain wasn't able to understand what was going on till it was too late. This is something that is true even in the real world (common knowledge in all sports and martial arts), the body doesn't react if the brain is unable to accept the reality that is happening. That's exactly what happened: even if Histy saw surely something it doesn't matter since her brain obviously wasn't fast enough to accept the situation that was presenting in front of her eyes. Quote:
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