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whitecloud · 2013-03-28, 09:24

The group name ak-submarine I'm sure you will find it Myssa..I find it quite easily

Endless Soul · 2013-03-28, 09:26

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Originally Posted by LoweGear

- The Oarai schoolship was built immediately after WW2, ...

Well that's very interesting. The banner in one of the earlier episodes (The Gloriana match?) said that this was the 74th anniversary of the Sensha-do Tournaments. If the tournaments started around the time the Oarai Schoolship was built, then (does a bit of math.....carry the 1...) this series takes place around the year 2019 (Blade Runner anyone?).

Of course if the Oarai Schoolship was built after the tournaments have started, then the series would be taking place around present day.

Endless "Near future" Soul

Dop · 2013-03-28, 09:26

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Originally Posted by Wild Goose

FISH & CHIPS = British Army slang for urban warfare. Fighting In Someone's House & Causing Havoc In People's Streets.

As an aside this amuses me massively.

I figured that the streets and buildings in the final battle might have been either built specially for the tournaments or was originally a town purchased specially (like Imber, for example) for tournament use.

Similarly the town in the battle against Pravda was probably a special arena and former town.

Panzerklein · 2013-03-28, 10:01

So it is mean WW2 in GuP still really exist? And men drive tanks for war?

Sumeragi · 2013-03-28, 10:08

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Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-03-28, 10:08

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Also, some anons are translating OVA 3 in regards to the history of the schoolships. So here's what we know so far:
- Several methods of power generation onboard the ship include using external water currents, using wind currents from indoor ventilation (surprisingly, this is apparently also practiced IRL according to the translator), solar power, oceanic heat recovery, waste combustion, and seismic power generators beneath roads among others.

Obviously a full translation would be required, but the impression I get there is that as usual The Atomic Age is being left out because this is Japan. Though, again, the full context of that information would be required; maybe they just listed alternative sources instead of primary sources.

Kamui04 · 2013-03-28, 11:57

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Originally Posted by Endless Soul

Well that's very interesting. The banner in one of the earlier episodes (The Gloriana match?) said that this was the 74th anniversary of the Sensha-do Tournaments. If the tournaments started around the time the Oarai Schoolship was built, then (does a bit of math.....carry the 1...) this series takes place around the year 2019 (Blade Runner anyone?).

Of course if the Oarai Schoolship was built after the tournaments have started, then the series would be taking place around present day.

Endless "Near future" Soul

IIRC theres's been mention that Senshado started inbetween WW1 and WW2, add a few years for the first tournament to be organized and we end up with an alternate present day setting for GuP.

Ithekro · 2013-03-28, 12:05

One wouldn't think they would have carbon coating armor back then though. But on the other hand, they have am HMS Dreadnaught that appears to be several kilometers long. The historical HMS Dreadnaught was built in 1906, which would be before tanks exist.

Also if Ooarai is really that old, it might be that she's in need of a major reconstruction to stat in service (though she doesn't look run down at all). Just due to the age of the vessel. Or it could be that it was just too small and not getting students that was causing the Board to want to shut it down (and probably retire the vessel).

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2013-03-28, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Panzerklein

So it is mean WW2 in GuP still really exist? And men drive tanks for war?

WW2 exists only as closely to ours as the anime studio wanted it to. Clearly they don't want to divorce our world from the GUP completely or all the references to real life tanks would have been invalidated. The idea seems to be that everything related to the wars happened, but everything else did not.

Tak · 2013-03-28, 13:13

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

WW2 exists only as closely to ours as the anime studio wanted it to. Clearly they don't want to divorce our world from the GUP completely or all the references to real life tanks would have been invalidated. The idea seems to be that everything related to the wars happened, but everything else did not.

I view this show as an alternative universe to reality commenting on reality.

Do we really warrant an explanation? Not really, imo.

That being said, I imagine this format could be applied to other (fictional) works. Imagine if they ever had a crossover show called Girls und Mobile Suits... and an explanation might just not be available, or probable.

- Tak

whitecloud · 2013-03-28, 13:23

The ship is really big...and most of it is run by little girl student, due to lack of crew maybe...it is a big ship...

Can you imagine if you got lost..your corpse would go missing for years in one of the unused, or rarely visited room and nobody would ever find you...

Tak · 2013-03-28, 13:24

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The ship is really big...and most of it is run by little girl student, due to lack of crew maybe...it is a big ship...

Michael Jackson is... dead... right?

- Tak (because that would be his paradise)

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-03-28, 13:32

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Can you imagine if you got lost..your corpse would go missing for years in one of the unused, or rarely visited room and nobody would ever find you...

That example has already been provided...

Ithekro · 2013-03-28, 13:33

The large banner at the team placement thing was 74th tournament, yet the banner over the start of the tournament between Ooarai and Saunders was like 63rd tournament (or something like that). That might be an error that was corrected in the BD version for all I know.

However it could be possible that there are two tournaments going on. The nationals and internationals. Perhaps the international tournament is older with Japan joining in later so their nationals are "younger" than the international.

Though it the series is set in the present, and the 74th number is correct, the first Tournament was basically World War II (or prehaps the Spanish Civil War followed by World War II). If this was the case, it could be that the battles and people being quoted were also sports figures. Or men use to be part of the games, but the first five to ten years were way too violent (and maybe bloody) so it become a girls sport following the "war". So it is possible that the paint shells from Kelly's Heroes was what they used back then, but the shot didn't "pop" the Tiger's flag (the wrong color shells man, they send out the negative waves).

Infinite Zenith · 2013-03-28, 13:51

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Originally Posted by LoweGear

Why should it be in spoiler blocks? This is background information regarding the world setting of Girls Und Panzer, not plot elements related to the actual story itself.

Fair enough, although I would prefer to see the OVA myself rather than trust anon sources

gral · 2013-03-28, 17:16

Hiryuu just released Episode 11. And, according to them:

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12 should be this weekend. OVA2 shouldn’t be too distant either and work has also begun on OVA3.

LoweGear · 2013-03-28, 17:19

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Fair enough, although I would prefer to see the OVA myself rather than trust anon sources

Well, the info I posted are summaries of the actual translation effort that was done, which attempted to translate the dialogue in the OVA line by line in preparation for subbing. So these translations are the best you can get until Hiryuu releases their version. I don't think Hiryuu is going to translate the Yukari Corner portions though, unlike what the anons have done.

Wild Goose · 2013-03-28, 17:28

It makes sense the naval studies girls are standing watches and running the ships, if we consider that as their practicals...

Myssa Rei · 2013-03-28, 17:45

re WW2: Mizushima apparently put his foot down finally and replied via tweet that it happened more or less like ours. The effect of this on Senshado was to unequivocally ban males from participating for fear that they'd turn even Sensha-do matches into lethal brawls.

Infinite Zenith · 2013-03-28, 17:53

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Originally Posted by LoweGear

Well, the info I posted are summaries of the actual translation effort that was done, which attempted to translate the dialogue in the OVA line by line in preparation for subbing. So these translations are the best you can get until Hiryuu releases their version. I don't think Hiryuu is going to translate the Yukari Corner portions though, unlike what the anons have done.

Then that makes your information credible, rather than anonymous; there isn't any need to say they're anonymous. Kindly forgive my scepticism towards anonymous sources: past experience has shown that these sources are rushed into production for the sake of getting it out first, and as such, may sacrifice quality.

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re WW2: Mizushima apparently put his foot down finally and replied via tweet that it happened more or less like ours. The effect of this on Senshado was to unequivocally ban males from participating for fear that they'd turn even Sensha-do matches into lethal brawls.

Because guys take things a little too seriously at times

I wonder if they were able to eradicate warfare in general...

2013-03-28, 10:01	Link #5724
Panzerklein In cash we trust! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Đế Quốc Đại Việt Thần Thánh Age: 36	So it is mean WW2 in GuP still really exist? And men drive tanks for war? __________________ War! War never changes

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	One wouldn't think they would have carbon coating armor back then though. But on the other hand, they have am HMS Dreadnaught that appears to be several kilometers long. The historical HMS Dreadnaught was built in 1906, which would be before tanks exist. Also if Ooarai is really that old, it might be that she's in need of a major reconstruction to stat in service (though she doesn't look run down at all). Just due to the age of the vessel. Or it could be that it was just too small and not getting students that was causing the Board to want to shut it down (and probably retire the vessel). __________________

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	The large banner at the team placement thing was 74th tournament, yet the banner over the start of the tournament between Ooarai and Saunders was like 63rd tournament (or something like that). That might be an error that was corrected in the BD version for all I know. However it could be possible that there are two tournaments going on. The nationals and internationals. Perhaps the international tournament is older with Japan joining in later so their nationals are "younger" than the international. Though it the series is set in the present, and the 74th number is correct, the first Tournament was basically World War II (or prehaps the Spanish Civil War followed by World War II). If this was the case, it could be that the battles and people being quoted were also sports figures. Or men use to be part of the games, but the first five to ten years were way too violent (and maybe bloody) so it become a girls sport following the "war". So it is possible that the paint shells from Kelly's Heroes was what they used back then, but the shot didn't "pop" the Tiger's flag (the wrong color shells man, they send out the negative waves). __________________

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Wild Goose Truth Martyr Author Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork. Age: 38	It makes sense the naval studies girls are standing watches and running the ships, if we consider that as their practicals... __________________ One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine. *I believe in miracles.* Order of Freelance Mages (Goose's Nanoha OC Project)

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Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	re WW2: Mizushima apparently put his foot down finally and replied via tweet that it happened more or less like ours. The effect of this on Senshado was to unequivocally ban males from participating for fear that they'd turn even Sensha-do matches into *lethal brawls*. __________________

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whitecloud Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	The group name ak-submarine I'm sure you will find it Myssa..I find it quite easily

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whitecloud Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	The ship is really big...and most of it is run by little girl student, due to lack of crew maybe...it is a big ship... Can you imagine if you got lost..your corpse would go missing for years in one of the unused, or rarely visited room and nobody would ever find you...