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Ruki0089 · 2016-06-16, 01:50

Sooo what is differences between him and the hero??

obnuchious · 2016-06-16, 10:10

MC is doing his very and upmost best to save the world while the "Hero" is being an ass and dick by destroying the world under his chuuni-ness of 'saving the world'

Craxuan · 2016-06-17, 23:42

Like how whoever came up with this title is destroying any hopes for his book to enter the international stage, because of how unbelievably sexist it reads.

wuhugm · 2016-06-18, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craxuan

Like how whoever came up with this title is destroying any hopes for his book to enter the international stage, because of how unbelievably sexist it reads.

This?

LoL

How about THIS :

Chuuko Demo Koi Ga Shitai!

Hokoga · 2016-06-18, 05:59

^ English title: Even a ‘used goods’ wants to experience love

Seriously with a title like that how the hell did it manage become a LN?

Craxuan · 2016-06-18, 07:50

Only possible in Japan.

cabman11 · 2016-06-18, 08:32

Are you a sjw?

XFire · 2016-06-21, 11:12

Let's not start that particular discussion here, please. It ends poorly for everyone.

Breimn · 2016-06-22, 04:51

New raw out, Abel going to "save"(read as forcefully kidnap) his waifu from the "evil" grasp of MC soon. I hope he gets his ass handed to him and gets killed.
Can someone clear up the prophecy part for me? GT is 2 hard to understand.

Hokoga · 2016-06-22, 08:19

I also had trouble understanding the prophecy part... something about a Black Sun and a White Sun, if I had to guess then the Black Sun represents Ritone and the White Sun represents Abel and that's all I got from it. Hopefully nilocolin will clarify this part.

But it seems that Maria's big sister and the real Noir(Old Darkness Princess) are also going to the Shylock house.

nilocolin · 2016-06-22, 14:39

Next chapter's gonna be a clusterfuck of happenings; especially, if that ominous prophecy rings true.

Spoiler for About the Prophecy; I gotcha!:

Terrier (Maria's elder sister) visits her sickly father and anxiously gives a report about Abel defeating Dark Princess Noir [Doll]. Lord Colley gives Terrier a key that's handed down in their family only to the family head; the key leads her to a room that holds a book of prophecies left by their Founder Ancestor, Miko Colley. Lord Colley says that the predictions are not written in detail nor are things written in real-time when something monumental happens. It's not such a great thing but he tells the doubtful and perplexed Terrier that it's worth her looking anyway to ease her anxieties about the future. Terrier who is excited about discovering a family secret, rushes to the underground room, but becomes disappointed when she finds only a rigid list of "Things you aren't supposed to do" written on a wall without any other advice she thinks would be useful to her and her family.

As follows:
*You should not appoint a child that does not take care of his/her parents as family head/lord.
*You should not waste money and instead always be frugal/economize.
*You should not believe in or make those claiming to be a hero, your son-in-law.
*You should not pointlessly go against the royal family or the great nobles.
*Without questioning the circumstances, you should not believe in the person who volunteers in/supports demon exterminations.
*When you come across a person who speaks absurdly and can't be reasoned with, you should not blindly follow them, even if it's the royal family or great nobles.
*You should not believe in a person that is a sweet talker/speaks of things too-good-to-be-true.

As Terrier continues to doubt whether this is actually a future prediction or the preachment of a cranky old person. Ta-dah, the true, very old and much alive Dark Princess Noir (Master of Puppet Magic) appears behind her in a black robe. Noir confirms that she was a companion of the Ancestor Hero-King Artemis and Miko Colley's best friend. Terrier asks Noir why Miko Colley left such instructions as it seems too ordinary at first glance. Noir, herself, does not seem to understand it but says that Miko Colley received the divine protection/blessings of the Goddess which allowed her to see the future. However, the future is something that continuously changes like the flow of a river, especially so when it's based on a prediction that makes the future really hard to read or can't be read at all. Noir finally deduces that the aforementioned instructions/predictions are those that will lead to the best future; by following "Things You Should Not Do" it distorts the flow of time little by little (naturally) getting one closer to their better future. Noir even states that 400 years ago Miko Colley had predicted a future where the Colley House was financially ruined and in the current timeline the house would be extinct.

Ah, the 'future prediction list' even explains why Milky as a dragon egg ended up with the Shylocks. Apparently, this was the result of the Colleys following [You should not own unusual/rare things] and for a small-to-medium sized noble house owning such things would be a harbinger of misfortune if the high nobles were to become jealous and act antagonistically against them (the same reason why the Colleys don't have heirlooms). So, in Terrier's grandfather's generation, her grandfather bought the dragon egg from a thrift shop in the kingdom's capital but the retired family head of the time, scolded her grandfather and made him tearfully cede the dragon egg to the Shylock House.

Then, Noir pressed a part of the wall with her cane, a switch activates, and a picture appears. It shows the important people who move/will shape the current era. In the picture, there's a Black Sun (Ritone) and a White Sun (Abel) with several stars orbiting around them. Around the Black Sun, there's a white star, a red star, a green planet, black moon, red moon, blue moon, yellow moon, and a green star. A green moon orbits around the White Sun. A white moon is being erratically pulled by the White Sun, but the white star orbiting around the Black Sun is also being pulled desperately. Besides this, there are myriad of small stars trying to influence each other. Then two black holes and countless black stars appear and try to crash into the Black Sun. The green planet and black moon move to intercept them. On the verge, of the two forces colliding, the prophecy abruptly ends. Noir and Terrier are shaken; Noir thinks it might take too long for a Dragonkin (who are absolute and strong existences) to appear and subvert the prophecy. She decides to meet her descendants (Eagle, Ritone, Gold, and Nady) and asks Terrier to take her to the Shylocks for what might be their hardest trial yet. Terrier readily agrees--not wanting Maria to be with Abel--and they get into a carriage heading off.

I think the stars and the moons may represent Abel and Ritone's heroines even if it's the same person; for instance Maria is both the white star and the white moon--as a white moon she's being pulled by Abel and as a white star she is being pulled by Ritone. Though the whole stars, moons, planets thing is purposefully enigmatic so it's kinda hard to say who's who.

Breimn · 2016-06-22, 14:54

That green going to intercept the enemy with the black worries me. Is the trap going to die so that his sister finally gets a brain?

nilocolin · 2016-06-22, 15:09

Eh, Terrier is a boy!? I just assumed Terrier was a girl when Torah tried to get him/her married to Ritone if Maria didn't work out.

I'm more worried about the two black holes and the following black stars, which to me, looks like a flock of Demonkins or that the kingdom finally made their move.

cabman11 · 2016-06-22, 15:11

Likely Demon Lord and Kaiser rin

nilocolin · 2016-06-22, 15:37

I can just imagine Abel raiding the Shylock vault within all that chaos.

Hokoga · 2016-06-23, 00:11

Thanks for the clarification nilocolin

@Breimn: trap?

________
In one of the previous chapters it said something about the start of the Dragon Hero and I think that was referring to Ritone.

Breimn · 2016-06-28, 12:35

New ch out. Maria working as maid snd being helped all the time by MC .Who was Jill? She is totally lusting for Ritone s D .

Hokoga · 2016-06-28, 16:36

I guess Jill is a new slave that works there, and yeah I agree it looks like she really wants Ritone.

Breimn · 2016-06-28, 16:48

>inb4 she is another demon

Breimn · 2016-07-04, 07:38

New ch is out , Maria is almost completly seduced.
She asks Ritone about all the bad rumors about Abel(which she thinks are fake) , he answer to ask Abel himself since things may be bad or good according to each one s POV.
Now Abel is going to be so butthurt that even Maria got stolen from him lol.

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2016-06-18, 05:59	Link #85
Hokoga Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	^ English title: Even a ‘used goods’ wants to experience love Seriously with a title like that how the hell did it manage become a LN?

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2016-06-22, 04:51	Link #89
Breimn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	New raw out, Abel going to "save"(read as forcefully kidnap) his waifu from the "evil" grasp of MC soon. I hope he gets his ass handed to him and gets killed. Can someone clear up the prophecy part for me? GT is 2 hard to understand. Last edited by Breimn; 2016-06-22 at 05:11.

2016-06-22, 08:19	Link #90
Hokoga Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	I also had trouble understanding the prophecy part... something about a Black Sun and a White Sun, if I had to guess then the Black Sun represents Ritone and the White Sun represents Abel and that's all I got from it. Hopefully nilocolin will clarify this part. But it seems that Maria's big sister and the real Noir(Old Darkness Princess) are also going to the Shylock house.

2016-06-22, 14:39	Link #91
nilocolin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016	Next chapter's gonna be a clusterfuck of happenings; especially, if that ominous prophecy rings true. Spoiler for About the Prophecy; I gotcha!: Terrier (Maria's elder sister) visits her sickly father and anxiously gives a report about Abel defeating Dark Princess Noir [Doll]. Lord Colley gives Terrier a key that's handed down in their family only to the family head; the key leads her to a room that holds a book of prophecies left by their Founder Ancestor, Miko Colley. Lord Colley says that the predictions are not written in detail nor are things written in real-time when something monumental happens. It's not such a great thing but he tells the doubtful and perplexed Terrier that it's worth her looking anyway to ease her anxieties about the future. Terrier who is excited about discovering a family secret, rushes to the underground room, but becomes disappointed when she finds only a rigid list of "Things you aren't supposed to do" written on a wall without any other advice she thinks would be useful to her and her family. As follows: You should not appoint a child that does not take care of his/her parents as family head/lord. You should not waste money and instead always be frugal/economize. You should not believe in or make those claiming to be a hero, your son-in-law. You should not pointlessly go against the royal family or the great nobles. Without questioning the circumstances, you should not believe in the person who volunteers in/supports demon exterminations. When you come across a person who speaks absurdly and can't be reasoned with, you should not blindly follow them, even if it's the royal family or great nobles. You should not believe in a person that is a sweet talker/speaks of things too-good-to-be-true. As Terrier continues to doubt whether this is actually a future prediction or the preachment of a cranky old person. Ta-dah, the true, very old and much alive Dark Princess Noir (Master of Puppet Magic) appears behind her in a black robe. Noir confirms that she was a companion of the Ancestor Hero-King Artemis and Miko Colley's best friend. Terrier asks Noir why Miko Colley left such instructions as it seems too ordinary at first glance. Noir, herself, does not seem to understand it but says that Miko Colley received the divine protection/blessings of the Goddess which allowed her to see the future. However, the future is something that continuously changes like the flow of a river, especially so when it's based on a prediction that makes the future really hard to read or can't be read at all. Noir finally deduces that the aforementioned instructions/predictions are those that will lead to the best future; by following "Things You Should Not Do"* it distorts the flow of time little by little (naturally) getting one closer to their better future. Noir even states that 400 years ago Miko Colley had predicted a future where the Colley House was financially ruined and in the current timeline the house would be extinct. Ah, the 'future prediction list' even explains why Milky as a dragon egg ended up with the Shylocks. Apparently, this was the result of the Colleys following [You should not own unusual/rare things] and for a small-to-medium sized noble house owning such things would be a harbinger of misfortune if the high nobles were to become jealous and act antagonistically against them (the same reason why the Colleys don't have heirlooms). So, in Terrier's grandfather's generation, her grandfather bought the dragon egg from a thrift shop in the kingdom's capital but the retired family head of the time, scolded her grandfather and made him tearfully cede the dragon egg to the Shylock House. Then, Noir pressed a part of the wall with her cane, a switch activates, and a picture appears. It shows the important people who move/will shape the current era. In the picture, there's a Black Sun (Ritone) and a White Sun (Abel) with several stars orbiting around them. Around the Black Sun, there's a white star, a red star, a green planet, black moon, red moon, blue moon, yellow moon, and a green star. A green moon orbits around the White Sun. A white moon is being erratically pulled by the White Sun, but the white star orbiting around the Black Sun is also being pulled desperately. Besides this, there are myriad of small stars trying to influence each other. Then two black holes and countless black stars appear and try to crash into the Black Sun. The green planet and black moon move to intercept them. On the verge, of the two forces colliding, the prophecy abruptly ends. Noir and Terrier are shaken; Noir thinks it might take too long for a Dragonkin (who are absolute and strong existences) to appear and subvert the prophecy. She decides to meet her descendants (Eagle, Ritone, Gold, and Nady) and asks Terrier to take her to the Shylocks for what might be their hardest trial yet. Terrier readily agrees--not wanting Maria to be with Abel--and they get into a carriage heading off. I think the stars and the moons may represent Abel and Ritone's heroines even if it's the same person; for instance Maria is both the white star and the white moon--as a white moon she's being pulled by Abel and as a white star she is being pulled by Ritone. Though the whole stars, moons, planets thing is purposefully enigmatic so it's kinda hard to say who's who. Last edited by nilocolin; 2016-06-23 at 08:35.

2016-06-22, 14:54	Link #92
Breimn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	That green going to intercept the enemy with the black worries me. Is the trap going to die so that his sister finally gets a brain?

2016-06-22, 15:09	Link #93
nilocolin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016	Eh, Terrier is a boy!? I just assumed Terrier was a girl when Torah tried to get him/her married to Ritone if Maria didn't work out. I'm more worried about the two black holes and the following black stars, which to me, looks like a flock of Demonkins or that the kingdom finally made their move.

2016-06-22, 15:11	Link #94
cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	Likely Demon Lord and Kaiser rin __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown

2016-06-22, 15:37	Link #95
nilocolin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016	I can just imagine Abel raiding the Shylock vault within all that chaos.

2016-06-23, 00:11	Link #96
Hokoga Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Thanks for the clarification nilocolin @Breimn: trap? ________ In one of the previous chapters it said something about the start of the Dragon Hero and I think that was referring to Ritone.

2016-06-28, 12:35	Link #97
Breimn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	New ch out. Maria working as maid snd being helped all the time by MC .Who was Jill? She is totally lusting for Ritone s D .

2016-06-28, 16:36	Link #98
Hokoga Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	I guess Jill is a new slave that works there, and yeah I agree it looks like she really wants Ritone.

2016-06-28, 16:48	Link #99
Breimn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	>inb4 she is another demon

2016-07-04, 07:38	Link #100
Breimn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	New ch is out , Maria is almost completly seduced. She asks Ritone about all the bad rumors about Abel(which she thinks are fake) , he answer to ask Abel himself since things may be bad or good according to each one s POV. Now Abel is going to be so butthurt that even Maria got stolen from him lol.