Valkyria Chronicles generic discussion

[Willen]

Originally Posted by MakubeX2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edelweiss.

For those who do not know what the flora is.

Didn't watch the anime, but the flower plays a semi important role in the game. Did they show the scene of Welkin on a hill at the end of the tutorial chapters ?

Yep, it's pretty similar except that they added Susie to the scene.

[Tak]

One of the biggest beef I had with the 2nd episode was, aside from making racists out of Gallians and Isara a hermit, the militia is now officially a composition of inept morons to boot. We are talking about a country that had armed itself to the teeth, with militia training to be one of the most important aspects of Gallian citizens, you'd expect some sensible decision making.

But no, taking a lone tank, in barely serviceable condition, and actually expecting to win against a foe five times its strength? Real smart. Wasted a tank and accomplished little in the process... *sigh* I can only wonder how they won the first one.

- Tak

[frustra]

posting some VC fanart because i thought the thread needed more VC fanart. (hopefully most of these aren't reposts) ^^

[Tak]

Well, if we are going to post images... I thought this little gem was pretty awesome:



- Tak

[velvet nightmare]

if you enlist, you get formal training

militia usually don't get any at all (ie have experience in hunting so they can use guns)

but it's diff for their country b/c everyone gets training in school (ie the kids can hold guns etc)


so like now that she's formally enlisted, she's going to get ordered to fight, which goes against her actions earlier, so i dont think it's simply for family

[LoweGear]

@Tak:

Every army has their share of smart and sensible commanders, and rash and insensible commanders. We just saw one of the latter in this episode.

We'll see whether that observation holds up in future episodes.

[Runty]

Originally Posted by Manji Midou

hmm, they keep changing so much things apparently lsara was a hermit darcsen in the anime...since people don't know her....

so after seeing so many changes l been wondering...

Spoiler:

how about they make juno welkins ex-girlfriend in the anime....they already have welkins friend falling in love with alicia...so why not add juno in the mix as the ex....to add more drama to the romantic part of the story?

Oh geez, that'd get awkward real fast. But I can see it happening.

Spoiler for Romance...:

It'd definitely make things interesting between Welkin and Alicia, having Juno being Alicia's rival for Welkin's affection. I actually wonder if that's planned in the manga (which hasn't released its second volume yet).

[Tak]

Originally Posted by velvet nightmare

militia usually don't get any at all (ie have experience in hunting so they can use guns)

The Swiss militia is actually a well-regulated and well-trained bunch. Members of the militia receive periodic training, and its mandatory. Gallia is based on Switzerland in more ways than one.

Of course, if the Gallian militia is not a well-trained, regulated and organized, then I really, really, really doubt the wisdom of handing a bunch of hunters the army's mainstay workhorse.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

@Tak:

Every army has their share of smart and sensible commanders, and rash and insensible commanders. We just saw one of the latter in this episode.

And thanks to him, my respect for the Gallian military just went from an initial high point based on my impression from the game to a free dive. But, there is hope. For the next episode: Formation of the 7th Platoon!!

- Tak

[Chrono Helix]

Originally Posted by MakubeX2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edelweiss.

For those who do not know what the flora is.

Didn't watch the anime, but the flower plays a semi important role in the game. Did they show the scene of Welkin on a hill at the end of the tutorial chapters ?

Up to today I had never known that lion's paw is another name for edelweiss.

[ThoHell]

Man this is such a horribly written script/plot/dialogue, but I'm still watching it. Guess the interesting method of shading and coloring has caught my eyes...

[kujoe]

Originally Posted by Tak

But, there is hope. For the next episode: Formation of the 7th Platoon!!

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one too! Not to mention, Rosie and Largo make their entrance in episode 3.

I like the fact that Ayako's fansub of episode 2 includes some notes from the game. It presents their work in a good way, or at least someone in the group loves the game enough to make that extra effort. Plus, it helps flesh out the background of the story more for those unfamiliar with the original material.

On another note, I'm quite surprised with the portrayal of Welkin so far. I think the anime is taking Welkin's "head in the clouds" attitude a bit too far sometimes. On the other hand, Alicia always comes across as someone who has some fire in her, so her anime personality isn't that far off to me personally.

[qmeister]

Ayako also included notes for Episode 1, if I remember correctly. Apparently they have some consultants backing them up with game knowledge, as listed in their credits.

The Edelweiss is a nice piece of kit, though the thing bothering me the whole time was how quiet the tanks (in general) are. Is it because they use ragnoline as fuel?

Note that I haven't played the game.

[Chrono Helix]

I can't stop listening to Alicia say 'ii kara!' and 'mou!'

[Taken]

Edelweiss reminds me of the Tiger I Tank used by the Nazi... definitely overpowered compared to the seemingly WWI model tanks of the Imperial army.

I am quite impressed with the quality of this anime. It kinda feels that it's somewhat better than FMA.... that's just me

[spawnofthejudge]

Originally Posted by velvet nightmare

if you enlist, you get formal training

militia usually don't get any at all (ie have experience in hunting so they can use guns)

but it's diff for their country b/c everyone gets training in school (ie the kids can hold guns etc)


so like now that she's formally enlisted, she's going to get ordered to fight, which goes against her actions earlier, so i dont think it's simply for family

Think Switzerland: Everyone's in the army in some capacity or another.

[JagdPanther]

All right, just finished episode 2:

1. I can see they changed the anti-armor lances to not be so...... obnoxiously large.

2. Susie is getting on my nerves.

3. I love Welkin's character more than I did in the game. I mean, I liked his character there, but in the anime he acts goofy but at least I think he's actually really in control. I love when he's talking to the Bruhl Watch second in command; the XO starts talking about the First War and Welkin says, "oh, no, I was asking about pulling back." LOL It doesn't work so well without context but his comments are very funny, but they're the, "Oh.... actually... he's right..." kind of comments; very deadpan.

4. Hopefully we don't see much more of those kids from the Bruhl Watch. I think my problem with them was there's no way they were 15 and Alicia is 19. That is not a 4 years' difference. I don't really agree with that decision by the animators.

I might have more later but I'm in a rush right now.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by JagdPanther

4. Hopefully we don't see much more of those kids from the Bruhl Watch. I think my problem with them was there's no way they were 15 and Alicia is 19. That is not a 4 years' difference. I don't really agree with that decision by the animators.

Well going by the little shots we see of the militia army in the second episode, we don't see any kids --- same goes for the preview. Hopefully that's the last we shall see of them.

[spawnofthejudge]

Originally Posted by JagdPanther

1. I can see they changed the anti-armor lances to not be so...... obnoxiously large.

That might just be the best the Bruhl town watch can afford.

Originally Posted by JagdPanther

2. Susie is getting on my nerves.

Originally Posted by JagdPanther

3. I love Welkin's character more than I did in the game. I mean, I liked his character there, but in the anime he acts goofy but at least I think he's actually really in control. I love when he's talking to the Bruhl Watch second in command; the XO starts talking about the First War and Welkin says, "oh, no, I was asking about pulling back." LOL It doesn't work so well without context but his comments are very funny, but they're the, "Oh.... actually... he's right..." kind of comments; very deadpan.

This is an interesting point of view. I wish he'd been coherent enough to explain himself, but he'll... yeah. I'm reserving judgement until after *merf*

Originally Posted by JagdPanther

4. Hopefully we don't see much more of those kids from the Bruhl Watch. I think my problem with them was there's no way they were 15 and Alicia is 19. That is not a 4 years' difference. I don't really agree with that decision by the animators.

I feel like they served a specific purpose. I don't see them returning.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by spawnofthejudge

Yep, my fears are coming true. What they're doing with Susie is working.

[spawnofthejudge]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

Yep, my fears are coming true. What they're doing with Susie is working.

Care to elaborate on your fears? I only fear that they grossly mishandle her, as she could be an interesting exploration of quite a few topics.