World Of Warcraft Discussion Thread

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Havent heard her voice yet, but a guildie likened the fight to bullying up on a little girl. Fight her till she crys then break all her toys, or something along those lines.

[RWBladewing]

It's a he, look at the achievements heh. And yeah, he whines about breaking his toys and has temper tantrums.

Edit: And you don't break the toys, you ARE the toys.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Q_Q

rawr smish!

[RWBladewing]

Assembly of Iron down. We have a server first on all 4 of these bosses.

[Last Sinner]

Originally Posted by RWBladewing

Not really "going in a different direction", Razorscale and Ignis are pretty much right next to each other. Not sure what you mean about Ensidia either as they are fighting Yogg-Saron on 25 man right now (unless you just mean firsts).

My guild has downed Razorscale and Deconstructor, should have Assembly of Iron soon.

Edit: Oh and Deconstructor has the weirdest voice ever.

Zzzz....so it's another case of the 2 days full clear....

I'm sure that the list on worldofraids had ensidia as clearing everything up to Yogg in 10 and not 25...If they've done that far in 25 as well, this is just lamentable...

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

They have had a good month or so of practice at all the encounters already. Furthermore they will be going at it for hours and hours on end to get that 'world first'. Lastly the 'easy modes' are designed to be generally accessible. It will be harder then naxx for the majority of people, but the real hard and rewarding stuff is in the hard modes.

I'm not going to consider Ulduar cleared until Algalon is defeated, which can only be done by beating the other bosses in their hard modes.

[Ithekro]

From the data listed I can't tell if it is 10 man or 25 man. The screenshot of the loot suggests Hard Mode (Normal) for Thorim.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Xacual

From experience I can say that reckoning is pretty much worthless, your weapon won't usually have good enough dps for it to actually matter. 1hand weapon spec is really important though.

Okay, dropping that one like a hot potato then.

In terms of a build, how's this?

[chadmorelos123]

Does anybody where i can download this game? XD....

ahahah...I want to see the features of the game..

[Xacual]

You can buy / download it from the official site for the game.

I can't really help with a current build spec since 3.1 would have completely boggled me. 3 talents that are bad though, the healing interruption one and the divine intellect in holy are both pretty much useless, healing while trying to prot aoe is basically useless because casting removes all your avoidance and guarantees you'll be hit, also 15% int is useless too, I think my pally has 5000? mana, 15% int is barely anything. Improved judgement is more of a ret talent, it doesn't really fit into the prot pally spell rotation that well so its fine to dump that too. Seals of the Pure is actually really good talent because once you get seal of vengeance and hammer of righteous you'll be stacking the dot on multiple mobs at once. I'd also suggest getting spiritual attunement. Also I guess I should clarify that Reckoning is decent while leveling but not as good once you get up and get all the main prot pally skill line up.

I guess I'd suggest something like http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc...00000000000000

For more fun this topic here basically explains all prot pally mechanics, optimal spell rotations, etchttp://elitistjerks.com/f76/t37172-p...wow_3_0_wotlk/

[Kyral]

Originally Posted by RWBladewing

My talents are bugged too. Apparently I only have 70 points and I don't have Black Arrow or Explosive shot despite them being on my action bar. Luckily this just seems to be a display error as they both work, it's still pretty stupid though.

Looks like many people are experiencing this issue.
Some even reported they have lost talents because of this, so it don't seem to be a simple display error at all.

atm I pretty much can forget about leveling as I can't distribute any points and I won't touch dual speccing either as many are having this bug while swapping specs.

*sigh* Well... back to daily questing and fishing with my two lvl 80s i guess.#

EDIT:
Interessting... It fixed itself after I gained 2 more levels and had more points, suddenly I was able to spend them and after doing so the missing point reappeared so I was able to spend it anew.

[RWBladewing]

Originally Posted by Last Sinner

Zzzz....so it's another case of the 2 days full clear....

I'm sure that the list on worldofraids had ensidia as clearing everything up to Yogg in 10 and not 25...If they've done that far in 25 as well, this is just lamentable...

No, that list is for 25 man, they are using "Normal Mode" to refer to, for lack of a better term, not-hard mode, as opposed to 10 man. They aren't keeping track of 10 man progress because none of the top guilds even care. You can also look at the front page of Ensidia's site and you'll see right there "25 man progress: Yogg-Saron down!"

Not really sure what you're looking for though in regards to difficulty. You said previously, very emphatically I might add, that you didn't want this instance to be tuned for Ensidia-level guilds, but now you're basically calling it a snoozefest because Ensidia cleared it on easy mode after spending literally all day? If they had gotten hung up on any of the bosses would you be saying it was way too hard and that normal guilds would never be able to do it? Not trying to call you out or anything here but I don't quite understand the inconsistency.

It's still too early for me to form an opinion on the difficulty, but I can say a few things. It's very different from Naxx in that the damage flying around is substantial, and you actually do need to handle the fight mechanics and not just zerg everything down (FL excluded). Trash actually poses a threat (we used CC on Assembly of Iron trash, gasp). It felt like at least a minor accomplishment when I downed these bosses (again FL excluded), and the fights won't be a bore when we do them again, at least not yet. And finally, I think Deconstructor will absolutely destroy pugs: not one but TWO ways to blow up your raid, a channeled spell that will wipe the raid without good healing, and a ton of adds that need to be controlled.

[Last Sinner]

Ensidia have confirmed 1st Yogg world kill. They got the 2h mace of insanity. Lucky nagas.

[Knight Hawk]

These "top" guilds ask for hard bosses, blizz gives them hard. Yet here we have them going in normal mode instead of hard. For the rest of us even in normal will be a challenge. Still, EU guild clearing Ulduar in 30 hours while NA had a head start . . . oi oi oi congratulations to that feat is in order. Common NA guilds, stop slacking and get it together :P

EDIT: Blizzard Authenticator in stock for those interested. Link(finally got mine ; ; )

[Evangelion Xgouki]

We finally managed to down 10-man Deconstructor last night after a good number of attempts (and having the bugged trashmobs not there really helped getting past the first wave since they kept coming when they were up ). It was quite a pain to heal when you don't know when the Tantrum is going to hit and there are people all over trying to take out the scrap bots and other adds before they can heal the boss. We almost didn't make it, too. We have most people up after 50% for once and when the heart dropped at 25% we went all out and were shouting on vent to stop DPS when it plummeted to 3%. Then it went to 2%...then 1%...and then it resumed attacks with like 40K HP left. All DPS attacked and we took Deconstructor down before the adds could reach us. The whole thing was a little frustrating but it was an awesome feeling to kill it . Now we need to down Ignis...

[RWBladewing]

I was actually dead for about 50% of my guild's Deconstructor Kill. There's really nothing you can do when you get Gravity Bombed right as Tantrum starts except hope a healer is paying very close attention to you, which in my case they weren't. At least the healthstone I used in a futile attempt to save myself allowed me to get killed by a Tantrum tick instead of the explosion though, as we ended up getting the achievement for nobody dying to Gravity Bomb.

Pretty much the opposite on Assembly of Iron though, I was one of the very few dps left alive at the end and got the killing blow while he was charging towards me to oneshot me after the tank went down.

[Last Sinner]

Amazing now that the NPC bug at the Argent Tournament is now fixed, hardly anyone is doing that stuff on Day 2 on my server. Oh well, easier to get stuff done.

Did a few bosses in U10. Flame Leviathan was a very slick encounter. Cranking that Chopper for most of it then getting fired onto FL to take out a turret was loads of fun. Razorscale was a decent manage and burn encounter. Deconstructor.....unfortunately I was grouped with too many people that couldn't handle the adds. There was always one quarter that somehow had the adds reaching him. And somehow I got a double hit of those damn debuffs 4 out of 5 allocations in a row. But with more cluey people, looked very doable. The FL Kill I did was Hard mode, very nice cloth helm dropped. Rolled 93, just outrolled the other guy. Very pleased, I've needed a decent helm for months. Weird thing is its graphic looks more like a rogue helm. But I still love it.

As for my guild's main group in 25, they nailed Deconstructor last night just in time... Immediately when that happened, a rolling restart warning appeared. For once, we managed to not be screwed by the timing of those. They also got the Gravity Bomb achievement. And later last night they also steamrolled The Iron Council, Kologarn and Hodir. After a 1st night ruined by that damn hotfix, we're back in front on the Alliance side for our server, 3rd overall.

PS. Did anyone on servers other than Blackrock have all friendly NPCs inside Ulduar vanish after the rolling restarts? Because we certainly did...

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Yeah we did as well (Proudmoore). Was mildly annoying, but was near the end of our night anyway.

[Last Sinner]

Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

Yeah we did as well (Proudmoore). Was mildly annoying, but was near the end of our night anyway.

Funny...I thought the point of rolling restarts was to FIX problems. Not create more...

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

rofl...

You should know that is not the case! Especially for our server cluster!