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Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2013-01-05, 14:30

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

No, he just decided to leave them behind for some undisclosed reason. The palace was practically empty because the Demon Queen wanted the hero to reach her. And had no interest in seeing her people get slaughtered by him on the way there.

Ah, yes. Those details slipped my mind. Must have confused myself with a sequence from manga Superior

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Cyprene · 2013-01-05, 14:58

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I enjoyed the first episode with one exception: Hero's late middle school behavior whenever the Demon King played her gender card. Yes, I get that he's still a virgin. But he's not a middle school-aged virgin. He's a young man who's been traveling with a mixed gender fighting group for a little while at least. He should be beyond the blushing, stuttering, and overreacting stage by now at least. A nonchalant attitude would have been more believable. As he was in those scenes, he came across as a child.

There are a couple reasons for this. The first has to do with the fact that the entire book this is based on has no descriptive text whatsoever. The whole thing is like this:

Demon King: If you really insist on fighting, I'll fight you.
Demon King: Maybe, actually, I'll let you kill me.
Hero: Die, then!
Demon King: So at least give me half a day to explain myself.
Hero: ....

You can imagine how difficult it is to include any kind of fanservice when you can't use anything more than dialogue. So if you want to include fanservice (And the author did, because nobody on 2ch will read your work without fanservice.) you've got limited options. Making the hero a virgin who overreacts to any display of cleavage is one of the few ways to accomplish this.

The second has to do with the way the show uses archetypes. Everybody in the show is named after and embodies an archetype, that's why they're all "Mage" "Hero", "Demon King", etc. There was a very interesting essay in the back of one of the books on this subject. The archetypical hero in anime/games is a virgin who freaks out when he gets within 30 feet of a breast. Therefore, Hero is too.

Of course, this explains why he is the way he is, but it doesn't change it. So if it's bothering you now it's going to continue to bother you in the future. I will say that the fanservice in the books was pretty toned down, and the ratio of text spent on fanservice versus text spent on say, the advantages of crop rotation and potatoes in cold climates is about 1:9.

Guido · 2013-01-05, 15:22

Hello, everybody. Today, I started this new year's winter anime season watching the first episode to Maoyuu Maou Yuusha. I must say that while this medieval, high fantasy with magic and sorcery is packed with much generic content the execution as to how the Maou explained the politics of the war to the Hero was so immersive; it can become true.

There's so much to stake and risk in war, and, unfortunately, in real life humans make a big business out of it for unity, to gain concessions, to obtain natural resources, or to have a common enemy to loathe at.

Now, what's looks promising is Maou's proposal to Hero about finding or making another way to end the war without each of both realms desestabilizing internally.

Ami Koshimizu delivers a splendid performance as the well educated and versed Maou, coupled with childish curiosity and moeness towards Hero, but having issues about how flabby her body seems to her.

Fukuyama Jun does not gets behind either, as the passionate but dumbfounded Hero. At first, reacting with ignorance about all the truth of the war Maou explains to him, and childishly denying Maous' advances on him.

I definitely nailed it right for myself to have picked-up this title; it'll be a lot of fun watching how the story develops.

Random Wanderer · 2013-01-05, 15:28

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Of course, this explains why he is the way he is, but it doesn't change it. So if it's bothering you now it's going to continue to bother you in the future.

And I am certain it will bother me, at least. It very nearly killed this episode for me, as it is one of those tropes in male leads that I have come to DESPISE. SO. VERY. MUCH. It does not take very much of that to outweigh everything else in the episode being good, for me.

It's one reason why I often go out of my way to avoid shows that have male leads at all, because those males tend to embody tropes that just ruin shows for me.

SinsI · 2013-01-05, 15:36

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Do they really not have any names but "Hero" and "Demon King"? >_>

For a demon king where's the guards? o_O?

I'm pretty sure she introduced herself as "Kogyoku no Hitomi" - "Ruby Eye".

Cyprene · 2013-01-05, 15:42

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I'm pretty sure she introduced herself as "Kogyoku no Hitomi" - "Ruby Eye".

I'm pretty sure this title is used maybe 5 times total over the course of the entire story. It's Demon King all the way.

Xellos-_^ · 2013-01-05, 15:44

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I'm pretty sure she introduced herself as "Kogyoku no Hitomi" - "Ruby Eye".

it is more of a nickname because of her eyes.

Everyone has a Job Title as a name

Hero
Demon King
Head Maid
Big Sis Maid
Little Sis Maid
Female Knight
Female Mage
Grandpa Archer
Winter King
Young Merchant
etc..

Gundamx · 2013-01-05, 15:52

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Well, his female companions put together don't have as much "useless meat".

No, he just decided to leave them behind for some undisclosed reason. The palace was practically empty because the Demon Queen wanted the hero to reach her. And had no interest in seeing her people get slaughtered by him on the way there.

Which is canon? Anime or novel?

SaintessHeart · 2013-01-05, 15:52

Must.......not........be.......attracted.......to. .....useless.........meat.........

Flat chest is a status symbol! Not useless meat!

ReaperxKingx · 2013-01-05, 15:59

...............I love the manga series, I am so going to love this show. Though different character designs from the manga, its not so bad and the story is still good.

Cyprene · 2013-01-05, 16:00

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Which is canon? Anime or novel?

They're identical so far, with the exception of Mage and her personality split. If anything is non-canon, it would be the original 2ch thread, which has a bunch of plot holes because it was written in pieces.

SaintessHeart · 2013-01-05, 16:02

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felix · 2013-01-05, 16:06

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They're identical so far, with the exception of Mage and her personality split. If anything is non-canon, it would be the original 2ch thread, which has a bunch of plot holes because it was written in pieces.

In the manga the mage has the same disorder. Maybe the anime is simply borrowing from all sources.

willx · 2013-01-05, 16:24

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Translating these sorts of things is a little hobby of mine...

Wow, good job! How long did it take you to do it? I'm intrigued though .. they made it and ciphered it in .. English? I'm surprised they didn't do Japanese?

Anh_Minh · 2013-01-05, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

it is more of a nickname because of her eyes.

Everyone has a Job Title as a name

Hero
Demon King
Head Maid
Big Sis Maid
Little Sis Maid
Female Knight
Female Mage
Grandpa Archer
Winter King
Young Merchant
etc..

That begs the question. What kind of parent names their kid "Grandpa"?

Clarste · 2013-01-05, 16:41

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That begs the question. What kind of parent names their kid "Grandpa"?

Their names change based on what they do. The Father becomes a Grandfather, etc. Although I suppose there's a question of how literally you want to take things.

Anh_Minh · 2013-01-05, 16:45

Then why isn't he Grandpa Butler?

Aoken · 2013-01-05, 16:47

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I like Akira Ishida's manga version (the second column), the fire dragon princess looks beautiful in his version. I'm fine with anime version design but not with the last row (WTF with her makeup).

Random Wanderer · 2013-01-05, 16:48

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That begs the question. What kind of parent names their kid "Grandpa"?

It's a writing convention. It's not that these are their actual names, it's just that they aren't identified by their names. Like in Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita, where the main character was known only as "Watashi," and the people around her were "Grandfather" and "Assistant." I am given to understand that this is an old Japanese writing technique, used where revealing the names of specific persons was considered discourteous.

Xellos-_^ · 2013-01-05, 16:49

The Head Maid in the Anime looks a lot like Roberta.

2013-01-05, 15:22	Link #503
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Verse 1: Hero You Will Be Mine. I Refuse! Hello, everybody. Today, I started this new year's winter anime season watching the first episode to Maoyuu Maou Yuusha. I must say that while this medieval, high fantasy with magic and sorcery is packed with much generic content the execution as to how the Maou explained the politics of the war to the Hero was so immersive; it can become true. There's so much to stake and risk in war, and, unfortunately, in real life humans make a big business out of it for unity, to gain concessions, to obtain natural resources, or to have a common enemy to loathe at. Now, what's looks promising is Maou's proposal to Hero about finding or making another way to end the war without each of both realms desestabilizing internally. Ami Koshimizu delivers a splendid performance as the well educated and versed Maou, coupled with childish curiosity and moeness towards Hero, but having issues about how flabby her body seems to her. Fukuyama Jun does not gets behind either, as the passionate but dumbfounded Hero. At first, reacting with ignorance about all the truth of the war Maou explains to him, and childishly denying Maous' advances on him. I definitely nailed it right for myself to have picked-up this title; it'll be a lot of fun watching how the story develops.

2013-01-05, 15:52	Link #509
SaintessHeart NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~ Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 35	Must.......not........be.......attracted.......to. .....useless.........meat......... Flat chest is a status symbol! Not useless meat! __________________ When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus. Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

2013-01-05, 16:02	Link #512
SaintessHeart NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~ Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 35	Images Putting Things In Perspective, Courtesy Of Sankaku Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________ When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus. Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

2013-01-05, 16:49	Link #520
Xellos-_^ Not Enough Sleep Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: R'lyeh Age: 48	The Head Maid in the Anime looks a lot like Roberta. __________________

2013-01-05, 15:59	Link #510
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	...............I love the manga series, I am so going to love this show. Though different character designs from the manga, its not so bad and the story is still good.

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Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	Then why isn't he Grandpa Butler?

2013-01-05, 16:47	Link #518
Aoken ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 41	Images comparisons Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? I like Akira Ishida's manga version (the second column), the fire dragon princess looks beautiful in his version. I'm fine with anime version design but not with the last row (WTF with her makeup).