2012-03-30, 22:04 | Link #3701 |
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To go along with this I'll suppose a Rokkenjima Prime really exists...
We know nothing about it that we can be certain of. Lion could exist in it. Discrepencies between Prime and the gameboard doesn't matter since there's no one to scrutinize them with reliable information about prime. To Lion, the Ange he meets in TP7 is as theoretical as he is to her. |
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So, since no one in that Prime ever heard about Lion, Lion 'doesn't exist' in Prime (though Ange would probably like Lion's prime because in it Battler never went on Rokkenjima and therefore he survived and he's likely living with her). |
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2012-03-31, 00:13 | Link #3703 | |
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The same can apply to the rest of scenes with Ange... where basically we have no idea if she really lived any of these events or not. The only Ange we know might be as fictional as the rest, wether or not Ange's world really exists. The one at the end of arc 7 that sees Lion is aware of being a piece, so definitively isn't the real Ange. |
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2012-03-31, 04:52 | Link #3704 |
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I think the only "PRIME scenes" are the ones with Ikuko's (almost-)revalation and the last scenes with ange in magic ending and ??? TP. I think even Tohya's first memories somehow are not right, as I think Ikuko only made him think that it happened like that.
So to say, the only scenes we can accept as they are, only exist in EP8. |
2012-03-31, 07:56 | Link #3705 | |
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2012-03-31, 08:18 | Link #3706 | |
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2012-04-03, 13:34 | Link #3708 |
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I hear a lot of people talk about how Yasu yells at Genji, because he saved her and she is as good as furniture, etc.
Having replayed through the game, I didn't read that anywhere? Do I remember wrong, or is it from another game? Did I just completely miss it? |
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Hey guys, could someone explain to me the transitions between episode 6 and episode 7? It was said a couple of times throughout episode 6 that that was going to be the "final" game. I guess it's the fantasy part of the story so I shouldn't get so caught up in it, but Battler was the game master in ep6 and he had won the game, so wouldn't he be the master in ep7 as well? I guess I should throw in here the transition from 7 to 8 where Battler suddenly becomes the game master as well.
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About the events of EP8, how many survivors there really were and what really happened after the Rokkenjima incident, we should discuss in the spoiler forum.
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2013-04-14, 13:32 | Link #3713 | |
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2013-05-08, 19:54 | Link #3714 |
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I've got a quick question if someone could help clear this up. I haven't read Ep7 in ages and haven't read Ep8 yet. Did Yasu make a fake murder mystery for Battler to figure out and did this turn into real murders like the Ep7 tea party? Did Yasu actually kill people as she suggested she would have in the tea party? Or is all of these speculations considered possible due to the Cat Box mystery?
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2013-05-08, 20:13 | Link #3715 |
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We don't know. The Cat Box seems to lock everything up in ambiguity forever. HOWEVER, a popular interpretation, and one I subscribe to, is that Yasu orchestrated a mystery game that got derailed by someone else using it as the perfect cover, and that Bern's Tea Party was just orchestrated to be the most hurtful thing to Ange.
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As for Kanon's existence, the general consensus is that he only existed in Shannon's head up until 1984, at which point Yasu became the family head and was able to pull some strings to make Kanon's existence "real". Exactly how much she actually playacted him in real life is open to interpretation, but it certainly seems to have happened at least a little. Quote:
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So it's possible to assume Battler's return merely caused Yasu to do something that caused the mess to become huger. As Ryukishi implied the adults might possibly be involved in what happened to Rokkenjima Prime, it's possible to theorize that the adults' situation would be bad regardless of Battler's return and they could end up resorting to desperate measures to get the money or they could end up causing an incident that however wouldn't escalate to the point there was only 1 survivor, the island was half destroyed and people assumed it was all the work of a witch. Quote:
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It's possible that they did kill everyone as their situation was the worst and they had the lowest sense of moral but I've hard time accepting they went at it as if it was a fun party as the teaparty seems to show. Quote:
In Ep 1 we see Battler meeting someone who introduces himself as Kanon and Battler agreed to acknowledge him as a boy. So Yasu dressed up as Kanon, at least during the game. As she has plenty of accomplices it can be that everyone else acknowledged her as Kanon merely believing they were playing a prank on Battler. Also Yasu dressed up as Kanon to go at Jessica's school but again, Jessica might have been aware of the trick. We don't really know. |
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