2013-05-14, 00:54 | Link #28161 |
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I'll simply say in my view they deserve it for playing with fire like that. In fact, I consider any society that lets such things happen as pathetic and downfallen. There are certainly times when abortion is needed, but doing it on a pregnancy that starts from "having fun" without any additional circumstances should never be such a case.
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Punish them for what? For being poor, undereducated and desperate?
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It has everything to do with diminishing the power and influence of women, by saddling them with children at a young age, keeping them "barefoot and pregnant" and get in the kitchen and make me a sammich. Pretty much every woman I know--including myself--is pro-choice. The only pro-life women I know are the cowed, browbeaten, doormat Stockholm Syndrome religious "good little wifey" types. Quote:
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2013-05-14, 01:01 | Link #28163 | |
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2013-05-14, 01:04 | Link #28165 | |
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Or use many other options.
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2013-05-14, 01:06 | Link #28166 | |
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Even more unfortunate, "community service" lines are mostly political movements for the ruling party to shore up on bleeding heart votes.
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2013-05-14, 01:08 | Link #28167 | |
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If a teen gives birth in America, there is an extremely high likelihood that baby will have a poor life. They have a much higher chance than normal to wind up a criminal, which is a drain on the nation's resources in more ways than one. In a perfect world, we wouldn't need abortions, because nobody would ever have "accidental babies" and nobody would ever over-reproduce and populations would always stay within our ability to maintain them. This is not a perfect world.
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2013-05-14, 01:08 | Link #28168 |
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People who want abortions will get abortions. The only difference is if they get it from a clinic or a back alley.
The fundamental problem isn't abortions. But no one likes to face fundamental problems when there're easier targets.
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2013-05-14, 01:12 | Link #28169 | |
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That's partly why I'm cynical: Almost every human being is a hypocrite, since they avoid the core issue and fool around with the fringes. |
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2013-05-14, 01:17 | Link #28172 | |
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That could be logical. It could also be eugenics.
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2013-05-14, 01:18 | Link #28173 | |
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2013-05-14, 01:21 | Link #28174 |
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That's just a pipe dream, though. Humanity will never be perfect. We will never have a flawless utopia. Our world will never stop being fucked up.
My view is of the realist, how to deal with the problems that exist in the world that exists, rather than attempting to set unachievable goals and then condemn people for being unable to meet your impossible standards. Humanity is a fucked-up species and we'll never be anything but.
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2013-05-14, 02:15 | Link #28178 |
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No, because Utopia is defined as a perfect society, not society where every desire of an individual is served.
Meaning, Utopia need not necessarily be an ideal environment for all individual, it just needs to be perfect as a society.
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2013-05-14, 02:18 | Link #28179 | |
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Either resources run out due to greed, or curiosity due to boredom fuels unrest.
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2013-05-14, 02:43 | Link #28180 | |
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Sorry, Sumeragi, but rather than striking at the core, that bolded part tells me you are missing the entire page. Try that with a bunch of medical people around and see if you can get out of the room without being laughed out or scalped. Yeah, it'd be nice if we didn't need abortions. It would be nice if all the other paths were available. It'd also be nice to have pink unicorns as part of a perfect society but the infrastructure isn't there so we'll punish those least able to affect change. I'll stand by my assertion that in most cases, peeling the superficial away and all that seems to be left is the notion that people should be punished for having sex without intent to procreate.
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