2008-07-08, 21:16 | Link #3283 | |
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2008-07-08, 21:18 | Link #3284 | |
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2008-07-08, 21:47 | Link #3286 | |
The Dark Knight
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
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Lelouch just sucks at physical activity, period (As if that school eps wasn't obvious enough). If Suzaku loses his "so called powers" he'd be just a regular guy who is still well built and strong (being in the military of course) |
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2008-07-08, 22:09 | Link #3288 | |
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I really do love how quotable Arslan Senki is... Read a history book some time; it might help. I'll give you a hint, my anime quote is a lot truer to life than anything in Code Geass. But, I guess propaganda does work, huh? |
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2008-07-08, 22:14 | Link #3290 |
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Suzaku definitely has a method in mind for accomplishing what he wants, though, as he's stated in R2. By becoming the Knight of One, he can gain control over Area 11 and create a fair and gentle society. And with Area 11 that way, it'd become an absolute magnet for Numbers. The only way governors of other areas would be able to maintain their workforces and keep them in their respective areas would be to adopt similar, favourable policies. It's a brilliant idea, and it'd avoid the bloodshed of Lelouch's methods.
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2008-07-08, 22:15 | Link #3291 | |
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2008-07-08, 22:20 | Link #3292 | ||
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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2008-07-08, 22:23 | Link #3293 | |
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2008-07-08, 22:38 | Link #3294 | |
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What helps the common people? "Change in public opinion." When it no longer becomes socially acceptable to keep slaves or treat people of different races badly or beat your wife or torture people, THAT is when things improve. Hmm, now that I think about it, I do believe there is a character on this show that is aiming for that sort of change. I can't recall his name? I think it begins with the letters Su...? Suza...? Ah, well, maybe it'll come back to me. |
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2008-07-08, 22:40 | Link #3295 |
Mao, ftw
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Just to hop into the conversation, having just registered and all, I'll write my thoughts on Suzaku even though no one really cares ^^''.
I used to dislike him during season 1, mainly because I had associated myself with Lelouch and, having not read any spoilers ever or anything, was fearing he might screw up his plans. Retrospect, and in season 2, I've started liking Suzaku and admitting that he's probably the character that's most like myself. His methods are also safer and more realistic, if he just manages to become the knight of one. If it wasn't for me associating myself with the maincharacter, I'd definitely have been rooting for Suzaku all along. Pretty much the short version.. Ah well, Sorry for posting something that has nothing to do with the current discussion about him. Last edited by Krishh; 2008-07-08 at 23:23. |
2008-07-08, 22:40 | Link #3296 | |
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Lelouch does likely have a bigger body count then Suzaku, but he still did not look for the way that would cause the most collateral damage nor were they sacrifices without reason. He caused the landslide at Narita to break apart Cornelia's army, as a result he very nearly won by capturing the Second Princess. The second time he used the JLF as bait to lure in Cornelia's forces, he once again very nearly captured Cornelia. The Black Rebellion, depends, did Cornelia evacuate the civilians from the zones where she deployed her army? I'd believe she did in only to allow her own forces to fight more freely without fear of causing collateral damage. Bottom line, Lelouch does what he does to accomplish his goals, and he certainly does not look for ways that would maximize civilian casualties. |
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2008-07-08, 22:47 | Link #3297 |
ANIUE!111
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Lelouch put his own men in an against-the-odds battle at Narita partly so he could basically weed out the weak ones and have the survivors be a "real army," as he said to himself. To that end, he definitely promoted more deaths than were necessary unless you agree with social darwinist views akin to those of Charles. And if you look at what Lelouch has actually "accomplished" so far, he's succeeded in doing nothing for his sister, and all he's done for the Elevens is get them slaughtered under Geassed Euphie's orders. I just don't see any argument for Suzaku's way being less effective than Lelouch's more casualty-heavy way.
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Now compare it to Suzaku and how he does things. If anything Suzaku has stayed consistent. The only time is when he was in beserker mode, and even THEN he didn't really kill a whole lot. |
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2008-07-08, 22:53 | Link #3299 |
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In the end bloody revolutions and more peaceful methods have both had their successes. North America in itself is a good example of these things. The US got a rapid break from Britain through their revolution. But while taking more time Canada also gained its independence. Both methods got the jobs done in their own situations. A revolution wasn't likely in Canada with the particular variables at play there.
Back to Suzaku....have just been wondering about the reconciliation side of things. Even if they come to an understanding of what has passed and move away from bitter enemies still things left over. Is Suzaku going to be fighting on the side of Britannia to the bitter end? Since the opposite would be going against his plans of changes from within the current structure. Is there something dramatic enough that could make him move from that position?
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2008-07-08, 23:01 | Link #3300 | |
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