(L) Fairy Tail Manga Discussion Thread

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

I gotta be frank i dont think even you believe what you just wrote bro. Solid script would've helped only if he could open his mouth which was gonna be a problem

Too sucked into the fighting to wonder how it would've worked. How's that for a "didn't see the kiss coming" argument?

[Slayerx]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

I'll be honest i dont really give a crap about Gajeel x levy shippers you are talking about romance that realistically is mostly Levy crushing on Gajeel and im really not convinced he thinks anything about her other then the usual FT comrade situation.

I find Gajeel and Levy kinda cute together, its easy to see why fans would like that ship... but what becomes a big turn off is remembering how they met... Ya, i can forgive Gajeel enough to let him be a good guy, but kinda hard to put that incident aside when you start talking romance. Especially when you remember that Gajeel really enjoyed the beating he gave her and her friends. Its just screams all kinds of wrong.

[Tempest35]

Good girls love bad boys...? *shrugs* Mashima just added one more to that hype. And besides, who's to say that Gajeel isn't taking things far with Levy precisely because of that incident? He feels indebted to her to make up for what he did and that's why he hangs out with her - he doesn't care about Jet and Droy since they're both guys. She's just mistaking his being there all the time for her as being romantic in nature. She's a young girl - its bound to happen.

...and I probably will earn some hisses from the GxL crowd for that.

But seriously, if Erza, of all people can still hold a candle for Jellal after all he's done to her (blue-hair even killed one of their mutual friends and tried to kill her as well), why can't Levy do something similar for Gajeel?

PS: I still hate Jellal...

[Aquaman OS]

Jellal at least was magically corrupted by an external source.

Gajeel was a jackass of his own merit. Yeah he kind of fell in with a bad crowd, but that isn't quite the same.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Tempest35

Good girls love bad boys...? *shrugs* Mashima just added one more to that hype. And besides, who's to say that Gajeel isn't taking things far with Levy precisely because of that incident? He feels indebted to her to make up for what he did and that's why he hangs out with her - he doesn't care about Jet and Droy since they're both guys. She's just mistaking his being there all the time for her as being romantic in nature. She's a young girl - its bound to happen.

...and I probably will earn some hisses from the GxL crowd for that.

But seriously, if Erza, of all people can still hold a candle for Jellal after all he's done to her (blue-hair even killed one of their mutual friends and tried to kill her as well), why can't Levy do something similar for Gajeel?

PS: I still hate Jellal...

The main reason Erza holds a candle for Jellal is she knew Jellal before he became a megalomaniac and she was a very important friend in a horrendous place. Also if you remember Jellal didnt kill Simon as much as simon sacrificed himself. Also he tried to kill her as a megalomaniac.

Gajeel on the other hand beat the absolute tar out of levy (jet and droy too but honestly nobody gives a crap about them) then was the main reason the guild was destroyed so really he has no major excuse.

[Robotech Master]

I wouldn't be surprised if a reason/justification for Gajeel x Levy was given down the road.

Remember how long Gajeel was inexplicably a member of Fairy Tail before we actually were given the flashback of why Makarov recruited him? Before Makarov spelled out in that flashback that he would never forgive Gajeel for what he did, a lot of readers just assumed that he, in fact, had.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Robotech Master

I wouldn't be surprised if a reason/justification for Gajeel x Levy was given down the road.

Remember how long Gajeel was inexplicably a member of Fairy Tail before we actually were given the flashback of why Makarov recruited him? Before Makarov spelled out in that flashback that he would never forgive Gajeel for what he did, a lot of readers just assumed that he, in fact, had.

I'll be frank i was more curious why did makarov invite Juvia to the guild Gajeel as well. My real question came up during the S class exam (why is Juvia in the exam if she was an S class for phantom lord and I'm pretty sure Gajeel is also S class as well

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

I'll be frank i was more curious why did makarov invite Juvia to the guild Gajeel as well. My real question came up during the S class exam (why is Juvia in the exam if she was an S class for phantom lord and I'm pretty sure Gajeel is also S class as well

because gajeel asked makarov to invite her, their where "good friends" in phantom lord.
juvia was choose because she was a s-class in her previous guild then makarov give her a chance to be here too, gajeel not was choose because of erza, on that time she not was trusth on him yet (she not aware of him work as a double agent for makarov), like makarvo dont choose alone the candidates he also talk with the current class-s about the possible candidates.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

because gajeel asked makarov to invite her, their where "good friends" in phantom lord.
juvia was choose because she was a s-class in her previous guild then makarov give her a chance to be here too, gajeel not was choose because of erza, on that time she not was trusth on him yet (she not aware of him work as a double agent for makarov), like makarvo dont choose alone the candidates he also talk with the current class-s about the possible candidates.

Hm alright i get it but thats still stupid IMO but whatever. Back to the matter at hand.
The problem with FT as a whole is there are a lot of fan ships but if u pay attention to the show there really are only 3 legitimate (both sides) shippings that the show has. 1. Natsu x Lisanna 2. Evergreen x Elfman 3. Erza x Jellal.
Sorry fans plain and simple the others r fan shippings and i dont have much believing they are gonna be more then that.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Hm alright i get it but thats still stupid IMO but whatever. Back to the matter at hand.
The problem with FT as a whole is there are a lot of fan ships but if u pay attention to the show there really are only 3 legitimate (both sides) shippings that the show has. 1. Natsu x Lisanna 2. Evergreen x Elfman 3. Erza x Jellal.
Sorry fans plain and simple the others r fan shippings and i dont have much believing they are gonna be more then that.

let me make a fix in my previous statment, actually was the opposite, juvia was invited first after the tower arc she goes to the guild soon their leave the island and asked to enter in the guild then she was the one who asked makarov to invite gajeel cuz she said who he also is a good guy just like her was on a wrong place and bla bla bla, but was first juvia then gajeel.

since when natsu and lisanna love each other???? after the youth nothing showed this.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

let me make a fix in my previous statment, actually was the opposite, juvia was invited first after the tower arc she goes to the guild soon their leave the island and asked to enter in the guild then she was the one who asked makarov to invite gajeel cuz she said who he also is a good guy just like her was on a wrong place and bla bla bla, but was first juvia then gajeel.

since when natsu and lisanna love each other???? after the youth nothing showed this.

Its pretty clear that up until and during the edolas arc that natsu held a massive candle for lisanna including multiple events that show his reactions to mentioning her (including once when he had a dream about her in lucy's bed and when lucy asked about it he ignored her). After Edolas it really hasnt been talked about it was a legit couple for a long time.
The reason i dont think Natsu and Lucy is a legit couple is because while Lucy does like natsu i think he only likes her as a comrade and given his reactions to all her nakedness i'm pretty sure he doesnt care for her as a women.

[Krono]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

I'll be honest i dont really give a crap about Gajeel x levy shippers you are talking about romance that realistically is mostly Levy crushing on Gajeel and im really not convinced he thinks anything about her other then the usual FT comrade situation.

You don't need to. The point is they see it as romantic and are delighted by it. They are helped in their perception by the fact that a few weeks ago Mashima tweeted, in English, that he was working on a romantic chapter. Which given where he's known to be at in his working process, works out to around now.

Originally Posted by Tempest35

Good girls love bad boys...? *shrugs* Mashima just added one more to that hype. And besides, who's to say that Gajeel isn't taking things far with Levy precisely because of that incident? He feels indebted to her to make up for what he did and that's why he hangs out with her - he doesn't care about Jet and Droy since they're both guys. She's just mistaking his being there all the time for her as being romantic in nature. She's a young girl - its bound to happen.

It's not that he doesn't care about Jet and Droy. They've just already gotten pay back when Gajeel let them beat him up.

And while I'm not trying to get into a shipping debate, as for the rest, while you could make that case for much of what Gajeel does, it gets much harder to make that case for stuff like Gajeel being impressed at Levy's intelligence as she works on Fried's barrier, or Gajeel ending his participation in the Fairy Punishment Game to chase after an upset Levy.

[_Misfit]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Hm alright i get it but thats still stupid IMO but whatever. Back to the matter at hand.
The problem with FT as a whole is there are a lot of fan ships but if u pay attention to the show there really are only 3 legitimate (both sides) shippings that the show has. 1. Natsu x Lisanna 2. Evergreen x Elfman 3. Erza x Jellal.
Sorry fans plain and simple the others r fan shippings and i dont have much believing they are gonna be more then that.

I can understand thinking that the other 'fan' ships aren't legit yet.

But to say they won't be more than that is ridiculous. Especially when we got so much development in the Gruvia department. Lucy and Natsu are endgame, no doubt in my mind about that, and Gajeel and Levy will be a thing by series end. I truly believe this.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by _Misfit

I can understand thinking that the other 'fan' ships aren't legit yet.

But to say they won't be more than that is ridiculous. Especially when we got so much development in the Gruvia department. Lucy and Natsu are endgame, no doubt in my mind about that, and Gajeel and Levy will be a thing by series end. I truly believe this.

Its an opinion i'll leave it at that i disagree but thats fine

[_Misfit]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Its an opinion i'll leave it at that i disagree but thats fine

Fair enough. This isn't the thread for this type of discussion anyway.

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

because gajeel asked makarov to invite her, their where "good friends" in phantom lord.
juvia was choose because she was a s-class in her previous guild then makarov give her a chance to be here too, gajeel not was choose because of erza, on that time she not was trusth on him yet (she not aware of him work as a double agent for makarov), like makarvo dont choose alone the candidates he also talk with the current class-s about the possible candidates.

I was surprised people still remembered that. For years I was concerned that Gajeel's "membership" in Raven Tail would be revealed to everyone in the worst possible way, without Makarov being there to vouch for him. But the whole thing was resolved in the games pretty anticlimactically:

Laxus: We know everything about you, Raven Tail!
Raven Tail: OMG, it must've been Gajeel!
*THE END*

It's not even clear what they were going to do with the intel Gajeel gathered on them. You could say he knew about how each member fought so Laxus could take them out, but it doesn't seem as logical as Laxus simply memorizing each member's attacks during the games.

Something tells me that Hiro Mashima considered making the armored Raven Tail guy turn out to be Gajeel, mainly because of the black hair and metal armor. I even speculated it to be him at first. But then he popped up on Fairy Tail's B Team, so that got shot down. T'was but one of many scenarios that seemed prepped for some big drama to go down, but while they sort of happened, they managed to tie themselves up in a nice little bow before things got too big (mostly related to Jellal getting busted by the Council and Millianna)

[Houreki]

Good episode, I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be the '' romantic chapter''.
The first page with Levy was beautiful too.

[Slayerx]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

I was surprised people still remembered that. For years I was concerned that Gajeel's "membership" in Raven Tail would be revealed to everyone in the worst possible way, without Makarov being there to vouch for him. But the whole thing was resolved in the games pretty anticlimactically:

Laxus: We know everything about you, Raven Tail!
Raven Tail: OMG, it must've been Gajeel!
*THE END*

It's not even clear what they were going to do with the intel Gajeel gathered on them. You could say he knew about how each member fought so Laxus could take them out, but it doesn't seem as logical as Laxus simply memorizing each member's attacks during the games.

Something tells me that Hiro Mashima considered making the armored Raven Tail guy turn out to be Gajeel, mainly because of the black hair and metal armor. I even speculated it to be him at first. But then he popped up on Fairy Tail's B Team, so that got shot down. T'was but one of many scenarios that seemed prepped for some big drama to go down, but while they sort of happened, they managed to tie themselves up in a nice little bow before things got too big (mostly related to Jellal getting busted by the Council and Millianna)

Frankly, i don't think Mashima actually planned for any of it. There was a TON of build up for them and it ALL ended anti-climatically. Its like, what was the point of them starting out as a dark guild if they were just gonna turn legal before they attacked? Ivan puts together a team of mages dedicated towards fighting fairy tail and the whole team including Ivan himself is beaten by Laxus alone? What sense is all that? It feels like so much wasted effort.

It feels like he has this whole idea for a story about Raven tail as villains but he lost interest in it and changed course... But he needed to tie up loose ends and so he just rushed them to conclusion

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Its pretty clear that up until and during the edolas arc that natsu held a massive candle for lisanna including multiple events that show his reactions to mentioning her (including once when he had a dream about her in lucy's bed and when lucy asked about it he ignored her). After Edolas it really hasnt been talked about it was a legit couple for a long time.

Ya, i don't see how that's anymore legitimate than any fan shipping. Honestly the hints we got to their past relationship is few and its not even clear they were even a couple. Heck despite her COMING BACK TO LIFE, Mashima has not done one single solitary thing with the two of them since then... he luvs her so much that he's not bothering to spend anytime with her now that she's back. They have about as much creditability as any other ship... honestly, it feels like you are overblowing(massive candle?) what little we got of the two to help legitimize your ship over the fan ships you don't care about


Much like Raven tail's anticlimatic end, i don't think Mashima even planned for her to come back to life... He just saw how popular she seemed to be in the anime and decided to give the fans what the wanted and brought her back. Really, the excuse given for her non-death is just riddled with plotholes and it really does seem like Mashima has no idea what to do with her... she's not really important for anything plot or character wise. Its like she's only included in various stories because now he's obligated to use her; like how she just randomly teams up with Juvia for the s-class exam because otherwise she would have no reason to be there... though couldn't find a spot for her in the magic games; just had to sit in the stands cheerleading...

Really, she just doesn't seem to have any place in the story. Sad to say, she was a more interesting character when she was dead... atleast when she was dead, she had an impact on all those close to her; she accomplished more for the stories and characters while she was dead than anything she has done since coming back


Mashima's just kinda bad when it comes to shipping in general... i mean, he puts some effort into the development but there's something marring many of the ships that bugs me. Jerral, Gajeel and Evergreen all tried to hurt their would-be lovers and/or those close to them; kinda hard to ignore. For Natsu, Lisanna is so underdeveloped she probably should have stayed dead and Lucy hasn't really had any romantic development with him. Really, I feel like the only ship i kinda like is Juvia X Gray. Ya its ones sided, but i think the only reason it stays one sided is because Mashima likes the running gag of the unwanted obsession; the day Gray finally returns her affections is the day Mashima has to stop making jokes about it.... Though Juvia was part of Phantom lord and thus a former bad guy, so she might fit with the rest; though i don't recall if she actually got a chance to hurt anyone other than Gray...
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huh
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Well there's the gun couple. They're stable.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Slayerx

Frankly, i don't think Mashima actually planned for any of it. There was a TON of build up for them and it ALL ended anti-climatically. Its like, what was the point of them starting out as a dark guild if they were just gonna turn legal before they attacked? Ivan puts together a team of mages dedicated towards fighting fairy tail and the whole team including Ivan himself is beaten by Laxus alone? What sense is all that? It feels like so much wasted effort.

It feels like he has this whole idea for a story about Raven tail as villains but he lost interest in it and changed course... But he needed to tie up loose ends and so he just rushed them to conclusion




Ya, i don't see how that's anymore legitimate than any fan shipping. Honestly the hints we got to their past relationship is few and its not even clear they were even a couple. Heck despite her COMING BACK TO LIFE, Mashima has not done one single solitary thing with the two of them since then... he luvs her so much that he's not bothering to spend anytime with her now that she's back. They have about as much creditability as any other ship... honestly, it feels like you are overblowing(massive candle?) what little we got of the two to help legitimize your ship over the fan ships you don't care about


Much like Raven tail's anticlimatic end, i don't think Mashima even planned for her to come back to life... He just saw how popular she seemed to be in the anime and decided to give the fans what the wanted and brought her back. Really, the excuse given for her non-death is just riddled with plotholes and it really does seem like Mashima has no idea what to do with her... she's not really important for anything plot or character wise. Its like she's only included in various stories because now he's obligated to use her; like how she just randomly teams up with Juvia for the s-class exam because otherwise she would have no reason to be there... though couldn't find a spot for her in the magic games; just had to sit in the stands cheerleading...

Really, she just doesn't seem to have any place in the story. Sad to say, she was a more interesting character when she was dead... atleast when she was dead, she had an impact on all those close to her; she accomplished more for the stories and characters while she was dead than anything she has done since coming back

I agree with you that at the moment there really is nothing for the lisanna natsu what i said was the manga has had 3 legit couples (I forgot about bisca and alzac) i never mentioned their active.

Admittedly im also curious as to what the situation with Raven tail was.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Hm alright i get it but thats still stupid IMO but whatever. Back to the matter at hand.
The problem with FT as a whole is there are a lot of fan ships but if u pay attention to the show there really are only 3 legitimate (both sides) shippings that the show has. 1. Natsu x Lisanna 2. Evergreen x Elfman 3. Erza x Jellal.
Sorry fans plain and simple the others r fan shippings and i dont have much believing they are gonna be more then that.

Gray x Juvia is probably honestly an established ship by now (at least somewhat officially) given how Juvia talked to gray's dad and vice-versa... But the actual romance hasn't happened yet... but IDK it seems obviously like it will happen.

Natsu x Lisanna is unlikely at this point. Lisanna has been a side-character for Zeref knows how long... Anyway, given what has happened in pretty much every other manga Mashima has wrote, Lucy x Natsu has a pretty damn good chance of happening... even if I don't particularly care for or against it...

Finally, the other ships you gave I do agree with though as being clearly cannon, lol.

Though I guess I should also say that Carla x Happy might be official? Or eventually...